Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/lawmakers\ -consider-resuscitation-bill-/ Maybe I'm mistaken... are they trying to make Out-Of-Hospital DNR's illegal? If so, who wants to help me start setting up the protests? -- Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 " Dolores Reid said she lost her husband of 50 years after paramedics reviewed his living will and refused to continue performing CPR. " Sorry for the giant text. This specific situation is talking about a living will, not OOH DNR. Although reading further in the article it says all advanced directives. Aren't we taught in EMT school how to identify an OOH DRN? And, correct if I'm wrong, but OOH DNR is " you do CPR or you don't do CPR " whereas advanced directives and in hospital DRNs have more specifics. I hope this would not include OOH if so I will gladly help Sent from my iPhone > http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/lawmakers\ -consider-resuscitation-bill-/ > > Maybe I'm mistaken... are they trying to make Out-Of-Hospital DNR's illegal? > > If so, who wants to help me start setting up the protests? > > -- > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > CPR Instructor > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 It appears as though this is another example of a family going against their loved ones wishes. We must temember we are advocates for the pt. It seems that family needs to do a little more homework. We are trained and as independent services have protocols in place and if need be online medical control. Sent from my LG phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 It appears as though this is another example of a family going against their loved ones wishes. We must temember we are advocates for the pt. It seems that family needs to do a little more homework. We are trained and as independent services have protocols in place and if need be online medical control. Sent from my LG phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 There are several concerning issues here. One of course is that the family may not have been honoring the patient's wishes, however living wills are very complicated documents and are not intended to be do not resuscitate orders and should not have been offered to the EMS crew. The second issue is that the EMS crew don't seem to understand the difference between a OOH DNR and a living will and understand that an OOH DNR are supposed to be the only documents they honor when it comes to resuscitation (remember though that it's possible for the family to revoke the OOH DNR). The third issue is that one incident such as this is enough to prompt an uneducated legislator to introduce a bill of this nature. The fourth issue is that an uninformed reporter who can't even figure out that Maxie Bishop is male writes an article and we are ready to mount mass protests. I will be surprised if this bill sees light outside of committee. I was present at the GETAC meeting that this family appeared at and told their story. Personally I think all they really want is an explanation and an apology, but there are too many lawyers in the world (no offense Gene and Wes) that would take that explanation and apology and turn it into a guilty plea for a civil lawsuit. This of course is the most concerning issue of all, that we have come to a point in our society that risk management concerns keep us from being human and apologizing. Rick From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Alyssa Woods Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:08 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Seriously? http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/lawmakers\ -consider-resuscitation-bill-/ Maybe I'm mistaken... are they trying to make Out-Of-Hospital DNR's illegal? If so, who wants to help me start setting up the protests? -- Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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