Re: Down sides of Resufacing?

[Guest guest]

Bee Buxton beeme_99@...> wrote :

> I have read so many positive things about hip

> resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

there must

> be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

>

Let's see....Instead of the bumpy backside that I had pre-op, I now have two

large scars (backside is still bumpy, although less so). Nobody will tie my

shoes or carry things for me any more ;-(. My niece and nephew have no mercy

and we have to run around endlessly when I visit. Even the dog has no mercy!

Oh, and I have various hip tools stuck in the corner of the garage such as the

incredibly attractive raised toilet seat, the stylish cane, the ever metallic

walker and crutches, and the lovely TEDS that my mother gave me. Only catches

that I could think of...

Cindy

C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

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[Guest guest]

Bee Buxton beeme_99@...> wrote :

> I have read so many positive things about hip

> resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

there must

> be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

>

Let's see....Instead of the bumpy backside that I had pre-op, I now have two

large scars (backside is still bumpy, although less so). Nobody will tie my

shoes or carry things for me any more ;-(. My niece and nephew have no mercy

and we have to run around endlessly when I visit. Even the dog has no mercy!

Oh, and I have various hip tools stuck in the corner of the garage such as the

incredibly attractive raised toilet seat, the stylish cane, the ever metallic

walker and crutches, and the lovely TEDS that my mother gave me. Only catches

that I could think of...

Cindy

C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

___________________________________

NOCC, http://nocc.sourceforge.net

[Guest guest]

The catch is you probably have to pay for it yourself if you live in the USA,

and if you're in the UK, you have to wait for NHS to approve it, which could

cause you to miss the window of opportunity.

Otherwise, no catch.

Des Tuck

Left BHR Oct. 2001

Right BHR May, 2003

In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:26:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

[Guest guest]

The catch is you probably have to pay for it yourself if you live in the USA,

and if you're in the UK, you have to wait for NHS to approve it, which could

cause you to miss the window of opportunity.

Otherwise, no catch.

Des Tuck

Left BHR Oct. 2001

Right BHR May, 2003

In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:26:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

[Guest guest]

Hey Jeff. I just couldn't match your cynicism.

Des

In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:40:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, jjg@...

writes:

Well.... My kids can't outrun me anymore and I have to admit I'm spending

way too much time working out these days. >

[Guest guest]

First off, I'm not a Brit so I don't really know how NHS works, but

Frost would know and hopefully he'll jump in as he usually does with accurate

information.

Second, I think any resurfacing surgeon will tell you that if your bone

deteriorates too much, you can't get resurfaced. They can usually tell from the

x-ray. I know I almost missed the first one by about 2 or 3 months.

Third, I think some surgeons will push you ahead of the line if you're

critical but that's where I run out of insight.

Des

In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:46:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

Des is there only a certain amount of time that I am

an appropriate candidate for a resurfacing and is

there anyway that I can tell without being opened up?

Will my surgeon be able to tell from my X-rays, and I

am in the UK and understand that the NHS may well take

a while, but I am working on that one!

[Guest guest]

First off, I'm not a Brit so I don't really know how NHS works, but

Frost would know and hopefully he'll jump in as he usually does with accurate

information.

Second, I think any resurfacing surgeon will tell you that if your bone

deteriorates too much, you can't get resurfaced. They can usually tell from the

x-ray. I know I almost missed the first one by about 2 or 3 months.

Third, I think some surgeons will push you ahead of the line if you're

critical but that's where I run out of insight.

Des

In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:46:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

Des is there only a certain amount of time that I am

an appropriate candidate for a resurfacing and is

there anyway that I can tell without being opened up?

Will my surgeon be able to tell from my X-rays, and I

am in the UK and understand that the NHS may well take

a while, but I am working on that one!

[Guest guest]

>I have read so many positive things about hip

>resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

> I know that I may not be suitable and that the long

>term effects cant be known yet, but are there any

>others? Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

>good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

>be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

Well.... My kids can't outrun me anymore and I have to admit I'm spending

way too much time working out these days. >

Cheers,

Jeff

rBHR Aug. 1, 2001

Mr. McMinn

[Guest guest]

>I have read so many positive things about hip

>resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

> I know that I may not be suitable and that the long

>term effects cant be known yet, but are there any

>others? Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

>good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

>be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

Well.... My kids can't outrun me anymore and I have to admit I'm spending

way too much time working out these days. >

Cheers,

Jeff

rBHR Aug. 1, 2001

Mr. McMinn

[Guest guest]

lol I like your way of thinking Jeff, too much time

working out!

Des is there only a certain amount of time that I am

an appropriate candidate for a resurfacing and is

there anyway that I can tell without being opened up?

Will my surgeon be able to tell from my X-rays, and I

am in the UK and understand that the NHS may well take

a while, but I am working on that one!

Thanks

Liney

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[Guest guest]

lol I like your way of thinking Jeff, too much time

working out!

Des is there only a certain amount of time that I am

an appropriate candidate for a resurfacing and is

there anyway that I can tell without being opened up?

Will my surgeon be able to tell from my X-rays, and I

am in the UK and understand that the NHS may well take

a while, but I am working on that one!

Thanks

Liney

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[Guest guest]

> lol I like your way of thinking Jeff, too much time

> working out!

>

> Des is there only a certain amount of time that I am

> an appropriate candidate for a resurfacing and is

> there anyway that I can tell without being opened up?

The procedure requires a certain amount of good bone (particularly

on the femoral side) to attach the components. If there's too much

damage, then resurfacing may not be possible. If you're bone-on-bone,

then the clock is definitely ticking.

> Will my surgeon be able to tell from my X-rays

In general, yes.

Steve (bilateral C+ 4/20/04, Amstutz)

[Guest guest]

> Thanks to everyone who has sent me messages in the

> last couple of days, recieving and reading then

> re-reading them has been wonderful for me and helped

> me begin to think about what lies ahead, so thank you.

>

> I have read so many positive things about hip

> resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

> I know that I may not be suitable and that the long

> term effects cant be known yet, but are there any

> others? Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

> good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

> be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

>

> Thanks

> Liney

>

>

>

I've got a downside - now that the overwhelming pain of a bad hip is

gone - I feel all the other little aches and pains that come along

as one gets older.....LOL!!!

Deb C+ 5-2-02 Dr Mont

>

>

>

>

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Small correction, Des. In the UK, the NHS doesn't need to approve it.

You just need to get you GP to refer you to a hospital where they do it,

the consultant OS needs to agree you need it, and then you WAIT.

However, the waiting lists are supposed to be down to 6 months, you can

get in sooner on a cancellation, and they will even send you abroad to

have the same op if you have to wait over 6 months. (Am curious-does

anyone know anyone who has got sent to Europe on the NHS for this op? I

know people who have gone to Belgium and France for a THR on the NHHHHS,

and very pleased they were too.)

Eleanor

Re: Down sides of Resufacing?

The catch is you probably have to pay for it yourself if you live in the

USA,

and if you're in the UK, you have to wait for NHS to approve it, which

could

cause you to miss the window of opportunity.

Otherwise, no catch.

Des Tuck

Left BHR Oct. 2001

Right BHR May, 2003

In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:26:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

[Guest guest]

Small correction, Des. In the UK, the NHS doesn't need to approve it.

You just need to get you GP to refer you to a hospital where they do it,

the consultant OS needs to agree you need it, and then you WAIT.

However, the waiting lists are supposed to be down to 6 months, you can

get in sooner on a cancellation, and they will even send you abroad to

have the same op if you have to wait over 6 months. (Am curious-does

anyone know anyone who has got sent to Europe on the NHS for this op? I

know people who have gone to Belgium and France for a THR on the NHHHHS,

and very pleased they were too.)

Eleanor

Re: Down sides of Resufacing?

The catch is you probably have to pay for it yourself if you live in the

USA,

and if you're in the UK, you have to wait for NHS to approve it, which

could

cause you to miss the window of opportunity.

Otherwise, no catch.

Des Tuck

Left BHR Oct. 2001

Right BHR May, 2003

In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:26:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

[Guest guest]

Hi Liney,

To be realistic there are always potential catches to anything like

this............ it is major surgery and like any major surgery there are

things that can go wrong at any time during and after the

procedure..........and these are not limited to the hip itself...........

various organs can object to aneasthetic or the shock and trauma of an

op..........

All hip surgery has a risk of infection and the consequences of that isn't

pretty........... All prothesis can initially fail for some reason........

and that can mean revisions......... The failure rate of Resurfacing is

fairly small but it is there.............. There is a failure rate of THR's

too.......... a trip to Totallyhip list will fill you in on some of

those............ There is no guarantee that if your Resurface failed you

would have faired any better with an initial THR instead........... Just

that if a Resurface fails you do have a 1st THR to deal with...........not a

2nd............

However, continuing to live with a grotty hip generally does extensive

damage to other joints of the body given time.......... So as humans with

our fragile bodies we are sort of caught with few options once we get to the

stage of a worn joint.........

It is going to come down to your own state of health, general fitness and

personal luck to what you get out of a Resurface........ The prothesis

itself permits just about anything............ sadly our bodies sometimes

don't..........which is where the real catch actually is..........smile.

Best of luck with your decision whatever that ends up being...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Thanks to everyone who has sent me messages in the

> last couple of days, recieving and reading then

> re-reading them has been wonderful for me and helped

> me begin to think about what lies ahead, so thank you.

>

> I have read so many positive things about hip

> resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

> I know that I may not be suitable and that the long

> term effects cant be known yet, but are there any

> others? Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

> good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

> be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

>

> Thanks

> Liney

[Guest guest]

Hi Liney,

To be realistic there are always potential catches to anything like

this............ it is major surgery and like any major surgery there are

things that can go wrong at any time during and after the

procedure..........and these are not limited to the hip itself...........

various organs can object to aneasthetic or the shock and trauma of an

op..........

All hip surgery has a risk of infection and the consequences of that isn't

pretty........... All prothesis can initially fail for some reason........

and that can mean revisions......... The failure rate of Resurfacing is

fairly small but it is there.............. There is a failure rate of THR's

too.......... a trip to Totallyhip list will fill you in on some of

those............ There is no guarantee that if your Resurface failed you

would have faired any better with an initial THR instead........... Just

that if a Resurface fails you do have a 1st THR to deal with...........not a

2nd............

However, continuing to live with a grotty hip generally does extensive

damage to other joints of the body given time.......... So as humans with

our fragile bodies we are sort of caught with few options once we get to the

stage of a worn joint.........

It is going to come down to your own state of health, general fitness and

personal luck to what you get out of a Resurface........ The prothesis

itself permits just about anything............ sadly our bodies sometimes

don't..........which is where the real catch actually is..........smile.

Best of luck with your decision whatever that ends up being...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Thanks to everyone who has sent me messages in the

> last couple of days, recieving and reading then

> re-reading them has been wonderful for me and helped

> me begin to think about what lies ahead, so thank you.

>

> I have read so many positive things about hip

> resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

> I know that I may not be suitable and that the long

> term effects cant be known yet, but are there any

> others? Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

> good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

> be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

>

> Thanks

> Liney

[Guest guest]

I stand corrected. When I had mine done in May, 2003, I seem to recall the

waiting list was 83 weeks long. Big improvement if six months is the wait now.

In a message dated 5/3/2004 10:59:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

moneyhill@... writes:

Small correction, Des. In the UK, the NHS doesn't need to approve it.

You just need to get you GP to refer you to a hospital where they do it,

the consultant OS needs to agree you need it, and then you WAIT.

However, the waiting lists are supposed to be down to 6 months, you can

get in sooner on a cancellation, and they will even send you abroad to

have the same op if you have to wait over 6 months. (Am curious-does

anyone know anyone who has got sent to Europe on the NHS for this op? I

know people who have gone to Belgium and France for a THR on the NHHHHS,

and very pleased they were too.)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 05/03/2004 6:27:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

>

> Thanks to everyone who has sent me messages in the

> last couple of days, recieving and reading then

> re-reading them has been wonderful for me and helped

> me begin to think about what lies ahead, so thank you.

>

> I have read so many positive things about hip

> resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

> I know that I may not be suitable and that the long

> term effects cant be known yet, but are there any

> others? Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

> good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

> be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

>

> Thanks

>

Liney:

The only downside is related to not doing anything to make yourself better!

As with all surgery, there are risks. But there even may be less risk with

resurfacing v. THR. But the biggest risk is waiting too long to find out if

you're a candidate for resurfacing, and having it done if you are. Of course,

there's always a chance that during surgery it will be determined that your

body (bone) will be better suited to traditional THR, so you have to be prepared

for that. I was one of the lucky ones who came out with expectations and

hopes fulfilled. Good luck to you!

Maureen

R hip, s, 10.31.02

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 05/03/2004 6:27:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

>

> Thanks to everyone who has sent me messages in the

> last couple of days, recieving and reading then

> re-reading them has been wonderful for me and helped

> me begin to think about what lies ahead, so thank you.

>

> I have read so many positive things about hip

> resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

> I know that I may not be suitable and that the long

> term effects cant be known yet, but are there any

> others? Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

> good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

> be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

>

> Thanks

>

Liney:

The only downside is related to not doing anything to make yourself better!

As with all surgery, there are risks. But there even may be less risk with

resurfacing v. THR. But the biggest risk is waiting too long to find out if

you're a candidate for resurfacing, and having it done if you are. Of course,

there's always a chance that during surgery it will be determined that your

body (bone) will be better suited to traditional THR, so you have to be prepared

for that. I was one of the lucky ones who came out with expectations and

hopes fulfilled. Good luck to you!

Maureen

R hip, s, 10.31.02

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 05/03/2004 6:27:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

beeme_99@... writes:

>

> Thanks to everyone who has sent me messages in the

> last couple of days, recieving and reading then

> re-reading them has been wonderful for me and helped

> me begin to think about what lies ahead, so thank you.

>

> I have read so many positive things about hip

> resurfacing but am finding it hard to find down sides.

> I know that I may not be suitable and that the long

> term effects cant be known yet, but are there any

> others? Range of motion is good, recovery time pretty

> good too, lasts a fair few years at least, there must

> be a catch! It sounds too wonderful to be true!

>

> Thanks

>

Liney:

The only downside is related to not doing anything to make yourself better!

As with all surgery, there are risks. But there even may be less risk with

resurfacing v. THR. But the biggest risk is waiting too long to find out if

you're a candidate for resurfacing, and having it done if you are. Of course,

there's always a chance that during surgery it will be determined that your

body (bone) will be better suited to traditional THR, so you have to be prepared

for that. I was one of the lucky ones who came out with expectations and

hopes fulfilled. Good luck to you!

Maureen

R hip, s, 10.31.02

[Guest guest]

Hi

Today in the UK 'Daily Mail' newspaper there is a one and a half page spread

on a 62 year old woman and a 65 year old man (they are husband and wife).

The article is about each having a BHR with the same surgeon (Professor

Richarson) in the Oswestry/Shrewsbury area of Shropshire - the husband

going private and the wife going NHS. Fairly interesting article giving a

chronological order of events for each case and their outcome. Merial &

Malcolm Blake. Merial made a quicker recovery and within 10 weeks of the

operation was walking up the Cader Idris in Wales. Malcolm is a mountain

guide whereas Merial is a retired teacher.

BHR both hips 2001 Treacy

Re: Down sides of Resufacing?

> First off, I'm not a Brit so I don't really know how NHS works, but

> Frost would know and hopefully he'll jump in as he usually does with

accurate

> information.

>

> Second, I think any resurfacing surgeon will tell you that if your bone

> deteriorates too much, you can't get resurfaced. They can usually tell

from the

> x-ray. I know I almost missed the first one by about 2 or 3 months.

>

> Third, I think some surgeons will push you ahead of the line if you're

> critical but that's where I run out of insight.

>

> Des

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:46:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> beeme_99@... writes:

>

> Des is there only a certain amount of time that I am

> an appropriate candidate for a resurfacing and is

> there anyway that I can tell without being opened up?

> Will my surgeon be able to tell from my X-rays, and I

> am in the UK and understand that the NHS may well take

> a while, but I am working on that one!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Today in the UK 'Daily Mail' newspaper there is a one and a half page spread

on a 62 year old woman and a 65 year old man (they are husband and wife).

The article is about each having a BHR with the same surgeon (Professor

Richarson) in the Oswestry/Shrewsbury area of Shropshire - the husband

going private and the wife going NHS. Fairly interesting article giving a

chronological order of events for each case and their outcome. Merial &

Malcolm Blake. Merial made a quicker recovery and within 10 weeks of the

operation was walking up the Cader Idris in Wales. Malcolm is a mountain

guide whereas Merial is a retired teacher.

BHR both hips 2001 Treacy

Re: Down sides of Resufacing?

> First off, I'm not a Brit so I don't really know how NHS works, but

> Frost would know and hopefully he'll jump in as he usually does with

accurate

> information.

>

> Second, I think any resurfacing surgeon will tell you that if your bone

> deteriorates too much, you can't get resurfaced. They can usually tell

from the

> x-ray. I know I almost missed the first one by about 2 or 3 months.

>

> Third, I think some surgeons will push you ahead of the line if you're

> critical but that's where I run out of insight.

>

> Des

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:46:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> beeme_99@... writes:

>

> Des is there only a certain amount of time that I am

> an appropriate candidate for a resurfacing and is

> there anyway that I can tell without being opened up?

> Will my surgeon be able to tell from my X-rays, and I

> am in the UK and understand that the NHS may well take

> a while, but I am working on that one!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Today in the UK 'Daily Mail' newspaper there is a one and a half page spread

on a 62 year old woman and a 65 year old man (they are husband and wife).

The article is about each having a BHR with the same surgeon (Professor

Richarson) in the Oswestry/Shrewsbury area of Shropshire - the husband

going private and the wife going NHS. Fairly interesting article giving a

chronological order of events for each case and their outcome. Merial &

Malcolm Blake. Merial made a quicker recovery and within 10 weeks of the

operation was walking up the Cader Idris in Wales. Malcolm is a mountain

guide whereas Merial is a retired teacher.

BHR both hips 2001 Treacy

Re: Down sides of Resufacing?

> First off, I'm not a Brit so I don't really know how NHS works, but

> Frost would know and hopefully he'll jump in as he usually does with

accurate

> information.

>

> Second, I think any resurfacing surgeon will tell you that if your bone

> deteriorates too much, you can't get resurfaced. They can usually tell

from the

> x-ray. I know I almost missed the first one by about 2 or 3 months.

>

> Third, I think some surgeons will push you ahead of the line if you're

> critical but that's where I run out of insight.

>

> Des

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:46:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> beeme_99@... writes:

>

> Des is there only a certain amount of time that I am

> an appropriate candidate for a resurfacing and is

> there anyway that I can tell without being opened up?

> Will my surgeon be able to tell from my X-rays, and I

> am in the UK and understand that the NHS may well take

> a while, but I am working on that one!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi

> Today in the UK 'Daily Mail' newspaper there is a one and a half

page spread

> on a 62 year old woman and a 65 year old man (they are husband and

wife).

> The article is about each having a BHR with the same surgeon

(Professor

> Richarson) in the Oswestry/Shrewsbury area of Shropshire -

the husband

> going private and the wife going NHS. Fairly interesting article

giving a

> chronological order of events for each case and their outcome.

Merial &

> Malcolm Blake. Merial made a quicker recovery and within 10 weeks

of the

> operation was walking up the Cader Idris in Wales. Malcolm is a

mountain

> guide whereas Merial is a retired teacher.

>

> BHR both hips 2001 Treacy

-------------

, I'd love to read that article, can you provide a link on the

Internet to the article. I'd like to print it out too.

Thanks so much! Roper