Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Hi all, My old anxiety is back. I have trouble going out alone. And that all there is now. :-(. Just Me. Me, packing to move, selling stuff to move -- I wish, re-boxing all that I unboxed and bills, bills and more bills because of Bill. Perhaps, my major depression is back. Of course today was a particularly bad day. I have poor memory since the day of Bill death. That I suppose is depression. I got to take a taxi to the post office to mail my medical insurance. Or else. Meanwhile, I am still having problem explaining me to my various specialist doctors. There got to be a better way. I am not sure I can take much more of this. I am depressed. Bad and good stuff is happening but all at once. I do not even have time to sit down and cry. Worse than EDS is my insensitivity to pain. Which is part of EDS I suppose? With my medical insurance canceled that is freaky. I called Aetna. When they told me they did not know Bill was deceased that was weird but might be why I got canceled. Computers. So, I am okay here. I mail in the payment I have since June 4 and all will be okay. Understanding why I did not mail it is what drives me crazy. I swear it is or feels like discrimination. I still do not have Bill ashes or his final clothes and stuff back. I have no death certificate nor his medical records. I cannot deal with going to the hospital yet. Perhaps I need a new therapist. I need to call the crisis line or something. But my medical insurance is canceled. They will reinstate it they said. They claimed they did not know Bill was dead. They thought he was the employee and I the spouse. Grrrrr. So, I am going on my own to the post office to overnight the Bill. I do not know how much worse things can get. Caro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 " Not that there's anything wrong with that. " I don't know whether the following will be calming or not, but it's meant to be soothing: It's okay to be anxious, and believe it or not, a lot of primary anxiety goes along with EDS, genetically. There's no reason to be anxious about being anxious (which is a secondary anxiety, or if you are as pedantic as I am, " meta-anxiety " or recursive anxiety - anxiety about anxiety). I don't have the reference handy, but there's a remarkable finding from science here, that I may have mentioned before. There's a truly extraordinarily high correlation (something like .7 or 70% if memory serves, out of 1, or 100%) between bodily flexibility and anxiety. In other words, the more flexible you are, the more anxious you are, genetically. They even traced both traits back to genetic differences on the same chromosomes. In other words, to over-simplify a little, most anxiety most of the time in most people is just genetic. And you know what EDS genetics does to flexibility... The anxiety that goes along with EDS is like weather - sometimes there's more of it than other times but it's just there and what of it? It's certainly nothing we have to get anxious about itself - that is, it's no reason for secondary or recursive anxiety about the anxiety and on and on. I generally pay some gentle attention to the bodily symptoms of tension or anxiety, because this slightly reduces them, make sure I'm at least breathing fairly deeply, and leave it at that. Don't feel you absolutely have to do anything about it, or that it's necessary to remove your anxiety. That may not be possible, and I'm not even convinced it's necessarily desirable. Don't forget that anxiety has it's uses too - anxious people are often more contientious (except about spelling, if I've gotten that word wrong)and more competent, in my experience. They may also be more creative because they take much less for granted. Not to mention that extra muscle tension may be protecting our more fragile bones (although this may not help the muscles.) You can't change the weather, so there's no great moral imperative that you do (my version of a thought of Kant's). It's pretty much the same with anxiety. No mighty exertion is needed. It's just there. A bit uncomfortable, but then, it's hardly the only symptom of EDS that can be a bit uncomfortable but doesn't have to be strictly avoided. If you'd go out in public with a sprain that other's can notice, you should do the same with anxiety. Think of it as a human rights issue. You've every right to be anxious, and to be anxious in public, just as you've every right to have a sprained thumb that EDS might help give you. If other people can be black or Jewish or red-haired in public because that's their lineage, and they certainly can, why then you can be anxious and anxious in public, cause that's how God made you. Does it upset other people a little? Do other people not like being around you as much when you have a sprained thumb, or when your manner or voice betray some anxiety or tenseness? Well, isn't that just too bad. As they used to say in the old hippie days: " *#&$ 'em if they can't take a joke. " - in this case one of God's little jests. It's your human right to be exactly who you are. Let them take it up with God, if they want to pursue the matter, and get out in public whenever you please. So feel free to get out of the house. If others want to think a little less of you because your body reactions are a bit different, if it gives them a little pleasure to feel just a little superior to you because you're " wound a little tighter " than they are right now, by all means let them have that pleasure. Needless to say, their quickness to judgment doesn't actually make them superior. Chances are they'd find some other reason to feel superior if that one wasn't there, if that's the way they're inclined, anyway. And lastly, to quote Doctor Phil's father: " You wouldn't worry about what other people thought of you if you knew just how seldom they did. " So get out. If other people want to be embarrassed for you, which probably means in fact that they're embarrassed you have EDS, since that's the root of the anxiety reaction, let them waste their energy. But don't waste your energy being embarrassed. It's your human right to be as anxious as you damn well please, or your body pleases - in public or not. When I was working with actors, who have to deal with stage fright, I found it very helpful to get them to distinguish between the necessary physical arousal of anxiety before a performance, and anxiety about that arousal and a wish to get rid of it. The best performers are physically anxious before a performance, but they expect that, hope for some of it actually, for the energy, and they exercise and carbo-load and they keep their anxiety, if they possibly can, to the hour of half hour just before a performance - not more, because that might tire them enough to drag down the performance. Once they are on stage, they should let the extra arousal be, relax muscles to the extent that they can, and, as with everything else that happens onstage when acting - use the tension, whenever possible. Of course, isolation goes with EDS' infirmities, and isolation makes social mixing harder when you do get out. People held in isolation cells for any length of time generally wait a day or more before they will speak or interact significantly with others as they get used to the ropes again. Human discourse is a remarkably complex dance. But again, that kind of social awkwardness, from isolation, may come with EDS - and you've every right to have it, and to be out and about at the same time. You have your human rights too. I've always been most comfortable on stage on those extremely rare occaisions (likely never to occur again) when I've been very fit (and therefore in a lot of pain - too much to eat adequately in fact). There's just nothing you can do to help with stage fright than to be in frighteningly good shape physically. But of course, that's a whole lot less possible with EDS. And again, so what? Be out of shape if you have to. Let other people suffer your having some nerves. Lord knows, you suffer enough of their supercilliousness (in modern speak: their 'tude). Are you going to suffer even more discrimination because you seem anxious to others at what is to you a " normal " setting - more than you already get in response your physical quirks and limitations? Probably, but that's their business, it's not up to you to be the co-dependent of those who discriminate against you and save them from any possible discomfort. Instead, get out there and be a maturing influence on them as they learn that not everybody is exactly like them. Then, when it's their turn to suffer a little disability, as will likely happen to them eventually, they'll be a bit better prepared - you'll have helped them. Fortunately I am finding lately that I can take a fair bit of very gentle very bodily-aware exercise - morning walks for me. It's the strenuous, extreme and awkward moves, however brief that really nail me. No jolting down stairs or hills, just very gentle, and often slow. Also, getting out and confronting just how anxious I can be, without getting excited about it, just experiencing it in good grace, seems to mean less anxiety for me later on. So bring on the anxiety. It's just weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 " Not that there's anything wrong with that. " I don't know whether the following will be calming or not, but it's meant to be soothing: It's okay to be anxious, and believe it or not, a lot of primary anxiety goes along with EDS, genetically. There's no reason to be anxious about being anxious (which is a secondary anxiety, or if you are as pedantic as I am, " meta-anxiety " or recursive anxiety - anxiety about anxiety). I don't have the reference handy, but there's a remarkable finding from science here, that I may have mentioned before. There's a truly extraordinarily high correlation (something like .7 or 70% if memory serves, out of 1, or 100%) between bodily flexibility and anxiety. In other words, the more flexible you are, the more anxious you are, genetically. They even traced both traits back to genetic differences on the same chromosomes. In other words, to over-simplify a little, most anxiety most of the time in most people is just genetic. And you know what EDS genetics does to flexibility... The anxiety that goes along with EDS is like weather - sometimes there's more of it than other times but it's just there and what of it? It's certainly nothing we have to get anxious about itself - that is, it's no reason for secondary or recursive anxiety about the anxiety and on and on. I generally pay some gentle attention to the bodily symptoms of tension or anxiety, because this slightly reduces them, make sure I'm at least breathing fairly deeply, and leave it at that. Don't feel you absolutely have to do anything about it, or that it's necessary to remove your anxiety. That may not be possible, and I'm not even convinced it's necessarily desirable. Don't forget that anxiety has it's uses too - anxious people are often more contientious (except about spelling, if I've gotten that word wrong)and more competent, in my experience. They may also be more creative because they take much less for granted. Not to mention that extra muscle tension may be protecting our more fragile bones (although this may not help the muscles.) You can't change the weather, so there's no great moral imperative that you do (my version of a thought of Kant's). It's pretty much the same with anxiety. No mighty exertion is needed. It's just there. A bit uncomfortable, but then, it's hardly the only symptom of EDS that can be a bit uncomfortable but doesn't have to be strictly avoided. If you'd go out in public with a sprain that other's can notice, you should do the same with anxiety. Think of it as a human rights issue. You've every right to be anxious, and to be anxious in public, just as you've every right to have a sprained thumb that EDS might help give you. If other people can be black or Jewish or red-haired in public because that's their lineage, and they certainly can, why then you can be anxious and anxious in public, cause that's how God made you. Does it upset other people a little? Do other people not like being around you as much when you have a sprained thumb, or when your manner or voice betray some anxiety or tenseness? Well, isn't that just too bad. As they used to say in the old hippie days: " *#&$ 'em if they can't take a joke. " - in this case one of God's little jests. It's your human right to be exactly who you are. Let them take it up with God, if they want to pursue the matter, and get out in public whenever you please. So feel free to get out of the house. If others want to think a little less of you because your body reactions are a bit different, if it gives them a little pleasure to feel just a little superior to you because you're " wound a little tighter " than they are right now, by all means let them have that pleasure. Needless to say, their quickness to judgment doesn't actually make them superior. Chances are they'd find some other reason to feel superior if that one wasn't there, if that's the way they're inclined, anyway. And lastly, to quote Doctor Phil's father: " You wouldn't worry about what other people thought of you if you knew just how seldom they did. " So get out. If other people want to be embarrassed for you, which probably means in fact that they're embarrassed you have EDS, since that's the root of the anxiety reaction, let them waste their energy. But don't waste your energy being embarrassed. It's your human right to be as anxious as you damn well please, or your body pleases - in public or not. When I was working with actors, who have to deal with stage fright, I found it very helpful to get them to distinguish between the necessary physical arousal of anxiety before a performance, and anxiety about that arousal and a wish to get rid of it. The best performers are physically anxious before a performance, but they expect that, hope for some of it actually, for the energy, and they exercise and carbo-load and they keep their anxiety, if they possibly can, to the hour of half hour just before a performance - not more, because that might tire them enough to drag down the performance. Once they are on stage, they should let the extra arousal be, relax muscles to the extent that they can, and, as with everything else that happens onstage when acting - use the tension, whenever possible. Of course, isolation goes with EDS' infirmities, and isolation makes social mixing harder when you do get out. People held in isolation cells for any length of time generally wait a day or more before they will speak or interact significantly with others as they get used to the ropes again. Human discourse is a remarkably complex dance. But again, that kind of social awkwardness, from isolation, may come with EDS - and you've every right to have it, and to be out and about at the same time. You have your human rights too. I've always been most comfortable on stage on those extremely rare occaisions (likely never to occur again) when I've been very fit (and therefore in a lot of pain - too much to eat adequately in fact). There's just nothing you can do to help with stage fright than to be in frighteningly good shape physically. But of course, that's a whole lot less possible with EDS. And again, so what? Be out of shape if you have to. Let other people suffer your having some nerves. Lord knows, you suffer enough of their supercilliousness (in modern speak: their 'tude). Are you going to suffer even more discrimination because you seem anxious to others at what is to you a " normal " setting - more than you already get in response your physical quirks and limitations? Probably, but that's their business, it's not up to you to be the co-dependent of those who discriminate against you and save them from any possible discomfort. Instead, get out there and be a maturing influence on them as they learn that not everybody is exactly like them. Then, when it's their turn to suffer a little disability, as will likely happen to them eventually, they'll be a bit better prepared - you'll have helped them. Fortunately I am finding lately that I can take a fair bit of very gentle very bodily-aware exercise - morning walks for me. It's the strenuous, extreme and awkward moves, however brief that really nail me. No jolting down stairs or hills, just very gentle, and often slow. Also, getting out and confronting just how anxious I can be, without getting excited about it, just experiencing it in good grace, seems to mean less anxiety for me later on. So bring on the anxiety. It's just weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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