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> Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet you

> dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54 year

> old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the Canadian

> waiting list was a BHR.

> I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of

the

> guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted for the

> surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR through

> these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy with

> your surgery and outcome?

> Sheila

Sheila...Susie here...I just read a post from Dan Milosovich... " Notes

from a physio " ....he was commenting that Dr Desmet seemed to have a

great track record for his resurfacings and that his price is good

but then he said the only resurfacing that can be done cheaper is in

India and that the Dr. there had been trained for the BHR. He said

that he had read it in an old post...quite a few months ago.

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> Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet you

> dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54 year

> old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the Canadian

> waiting list was a BHR.

> I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of

the

> guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted for the

> surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR through

> these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy with

> your surgery and outcome?

> Sheila

Sheila...Susie here...I just read a post from Dan Milosovich... " Notes

from a physio " ....he was commenting that Dr Desmet seemed to have a

great track record for his resurfacings and that his price is good

but then he said the only resurfacing that can be done cheaper is in

India and that the Dr. there had been trained for the BHR. He said

that he had read it in an old post...quite a few months ago.

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Well we had a guy here for dinner in February who lives in BC

who went to India for a BHR because of the waiting lists.... he was

actually on an 8 month list when at about 2 months he was told his

doctor wasn't doing resurfacing anymore - after a lot of research off

he went to India and he told us it was like being at a spa for month

for only 4500 US. A great deal and he is extremely happy with his

hip - it might be the same guy - I can't access the wsj so I don't if

they mentioned any names. HIs pictures of India, the hospital and

the staff were wonderful.

Pamela

lbhr de smet Oct 23/02

> Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet you

> dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54 year

> old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the Canadian

> waiting list was a BHR.

> I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of the

> guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted for the

> surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR through

> these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy with

> your surgery and outcome?

> Sheila

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Hi, Pam -

The former commercial fisherman named in the story was

named Terry Salo, and he did (could it be?!) come from !

And the sum quoted is identical: $4,500 U.S. less air fare to and

from Madras.

I know that De Smet is the cheapest in Europe, and I know a ton

of Indian surgeons have been doing BHRs for the last decade,

but I am curious to hear if anyone on the list has tried this India

option and how it worked out for them.

Is your dinner guest a member of this list? It would be great to

have his input here!

Best,

Sheila

> > Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet you

> > dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54

year

> > old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the

Canadian

> > waiting list was a BHR.

> > I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of

the

> > guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted for

the

> > surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> > Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR through

> > these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy

with

> > your surgery and outcome?

> > Sheila

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Actually he's not a member - he claims to be somewhat computer

illiterate and had a friend do the research for him - a great guy - I

do have a phone number for him and can contact him if anyone needs

information.

It is the same guy....

Pam

> > > Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet you

> > > dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54

> year

> > > old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the

> Canadian

> > > waiting list was a BHR.

> > > I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of

> the

> > > guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted for

> the

> > > surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> > > Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR through

> > > these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy

> with

> > > your surgery and outcome?

> > > Sheila

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Sheila - I meant to ask this earlier - what was a story like this

doing in the WSJ anyway - Was it a comparison of medical systems

(yours and ours) - just curious about it because I couldn't access the

story.... Can you give me the gist of it on or off list.

Thanks

Pam

> > > Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet you

> > > dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54

> year

> > > old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the

> Canadian

> > > waiting list was a BHR.

> > > I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of

> the

> > > guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted for

> the

> > > surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> > > Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR through

> > > these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy

> with

> > > your surgery and outcome?

> > > Sheila

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So Dan, at this point in BC, assuming you could get the surgery you

would have to pay about $3,000.00 (Canadian) and that would be it -

however there are only a few surgeons doing resurfacing and most of

them have waitlists that are 18-24 months long (minimum - could be

more) and in fact the waitlists are growing as we speak because the

Health Employees Union is on strike so no " elective " surgeries are

being done. We never get those surgery days back - ever. The lists

just grow longer and longer. I guess my question should be if hip

surgery is truly elective, like cosmetic surgery, then why can't we

have the option of paying for it in Canada?

(Someday I will find a new topic to rant on - like ice dance judging

when Cliff and I compete next year!!!!!)

Pam

> > > Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet you

> > > dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54

> year

> > > old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the

> Canadian

> > > waiting list was a BHR.

> > > I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of

> the

> > > guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted for

> the

> > > surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> > > Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR through

> > > these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy

> with

> > > your surgery and outcome?

> > > Sheila

>

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Hi Sheila

Dr Vijay Bose posted a couple of times on 'Surfacehippy' some 12 months or

so ago. He trained at Birmingham in the UK and works from the Apollo

Hospital at Chennai. For anyone interested the following sites may be of

interest

http://members.sitegadgets.com/csearches/board/1287.html

http://www.hipresurfacingindia.com/

Rog BHR both hips 2001 Treacy

WSJ story today

> Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet you

> dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54 year

> old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the Canadian

> waiting list was a BHR.

> I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of the

> guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted for the

> surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR through

> these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy with

> your surgery and outcome?

> Sheila

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Hi, Pam & Dan!

Dan - I remember your MRI post about going to Italy and found it

fascinating. You're exactly right: People are shopping world wide

for surgeries now, and the first person to compile all the options

and referrals in one watershed for patients will be a wealthy

genius. Medical tourism is IT.

Pam - yes, I'd love to talk to Terry Salo if he's not overwhelmed

with responses. I can't get e-mail addresses from this site

(there's a function that hides the second half of the address) but

here's mine: saf5201 (at) aol.com. My phone, incidentally, is

. The WSJ is more a business journal than a

consumer mag, so the focus of the piece was on the growing

empire of Apollo Hospitals Enterprises Ltd. (cq). It basically

discussed how the doctors there treated patients from the West

and used the profit they made from doing so to help leverage

more care from the Indians, who used to die because they

couldn't fly HERE for certain fancy operations not yet available

there. Big Pharma is using hospitals there (and in Russia, too,

incidentally) as centers for a lot of research, because it's so

much cheaper to complete them abroad and get cooperative

docs and patients. Terry was the " hook, " or lead, to put a human

face on the story.

I had to do a story once on Indians being trained to do American

tax returns and the Indian accountants couldn't comprehend

how and why an American could deduct medical expenses that

exceeded more than 7% of their gross income. It would be

impossible to spend that much on health care, they protested!

They were just gobsmacked at the prohibitive cost of medical

care here because even a heart operation there costs a tiny

fraction of an equivalent surgery here. It made them (and me)

reassess beliefs and assumptions about the U.S. health care

system. American medical care can be great - if you are among

the very, very rich - and have the good luck to get a thoughtful,

observant and open-minded doctor who is not going out of his

mind due to the pressure s/he's under from insurance

companies, student loans, hospital regulations, ballooning

patient load, etc. If you're not, you might well be better off in any

number of countries, including, ironically, India!

Best to all,

Sheila

BHR Treacy - Nov. 01

> > > Did anyone see p.1 of the Wall Street Journal today? I bet

you

> > > dollars to rupees the " partial hip replacement " that the 54

> year

> > > old Canadian flew to India to obtain so as to avoid the

> Canadian

> > > waiting list was a BHR.

> > > I was frosted that the writer didn't delve into the specifics of

> the

> > > guy's operation, but was gobsmacked by the price quoted

for

> the

> > > surgery: $4,500. Now THAT'S cheap!!

> > > Has anyone on the list had experience getting a BHR

through

> > > these Apollo Hospitals in India? And if so, were you happy

> with

> > > your surgery and outcome?

> > > Sheila

>

>

>

> _____

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