Infections

[Guest guest]

Yes, I get them mostly in the fall thru winter until the temp stays above 65

degrees

infections

I was wondering if anyone in this group suffers from recurrent, repeated

infections of some sort. In my case it seems I'm always getting repeated

respiratory and throat infections.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

Yes, I get them mostly in the fall thru winter until the temp stays above 65

degrees

infections

I was wondering if anyone in this group suffers from recurrent, repeated

infections of some sort. In my case it seems I'm always getting repeated

respiratory and throat infections.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

Yes, I get them mostly in the fall thru winter until the temp stays above 65

degrees

infections

I was wondering if anyone in this group suffers from recurrent, repeated

infections of some sort. In my case it seems I'm always getting repeated

respiratory and throat infections.

~Jen

[Guest guest]

I myself have not had many infections. I know when you don't get REM sleep

your body can't heal it's self...so your antibodies are down which gives

virus more roaming time. I did get the flu last year on the 24 of Dec. It was

horrible! Now my kids on the other hand had the flu, flu, flu, strep, etc. It

was a petrii dish here.

Some people have a virus in their system that led to their fibro and I wonder

if that virus is which causes all the infections some have. I don't know. I

injured my should & back. It's a thought I had. Well, I need to get to bed. I

hope you find a doctor who can give you an honest answer. Take care!!!

~

[Guest guest]

I myself have not had many infections. I know when you don't get REM sleep

your body can't heal it's self...so your antibodies are down which gives

virus more roaming time. I did get the flu last year on the 24 of Dec. It was

horrible! Now my kids on the other hand had the flu, flu, flu, strep, etc. It

was a petrii dish here.

Some people have a virus in their system that led to their fibro and I wonder

if that virus is which causes all the infections some have. I don't know. I

injured my should & back. It's a thought I had. Well, I need to get to bed. I

hope you find a doctor who can give you an honest answer. Take care!!!

~

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

YES, I am constantly getting infections all thru my body.

I have mentioned this to three doctors and they all say the same thing,

gee I dont know that doesn't make sense.

I have been on and off, more on, antibiotics this last year.

I feel great on the antibiotics, about three weeks off of them I start

to get another infection. It can be in my throat, ear, lungs,etc.

- melanie@...

To err is human - to forgive canine.

infections

> I was wondering if anyone in this group suffers from recurrent,

repeated

> infections of some sort. In my case it seems I'm always getting

repeated

> respiratory and throat infections.

>

> ~Jen

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

YES, I am constantly getting infections all thru my body.

I have mentioned this to three doctors and they all say the same thing,

gee I dont know that doesn't make sense.

I have been on and off, more on, antibiotics this last year.

I feel great on the antibiotics, about three weeks off of them I start

to get another infection. It can be in my throat, ear, lungs,etc.

- melanie@...

To err is human - to forgive canine.

infections

> I was wondering if anyone in this group suffers from recurrent,

repeated

> infections of some sort. In my case it seems I'm always getting

repeated

> respiratory and throat infections.

>

> ~Jen

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Yes, I get them mostly in the fall thru winter until the temp stays

above 65 degrees

Mine are all year long...........

- melanie@...

To err is human - to forgive canine.

[Guest guest]

> Yes, I get them mostly in the fall thru winter until the temp stays

above 65 degrees

Mine are all year long...........

- melanie@...

To err is human - to forgive canine.

[Guest guest]

Anyone with a challenged immune system is prone to more infections. If

you've been on antibiotics, they kill all the bacteria in a certain range

which lets other things get out of balance. It takes a few months to

restore the normal balance and sometimes the antibiotic was not strong

enough or was not taken the whole time so some of the little bugs got

away...and some became immune...which is becoming more of a problem.

you'll see royaldolphilis, yogurt with cultures, cleansing herbs,

acidolphilis etc listed. some drug stores even have a pull off sheet

about what to do to prevent a secondary infection when on medication.

there are ways to strengthen your immune system, lots of sites will have

tons of helpful info. its not as simple as popping a few supplements or

eating the right food or living in a bubble if you feel stressed. it all

works together and that's why you'll see so many different approaches to

FM.

the sooner you balance your GI tract the quicker your whole body will

finish healing. I use different things with my children and myself. Dr

Weil has suggestions and I do if you want to contact me privately.

washing hands, door knobs, killing germs in the laundry but don't use

chlorine bleach, its hard on your immune system and shuts down the

thyroid, pure lemon oil is used in European hospitals. I like to read the

studies on what kills what in a petri dish and that's what we diffuse at

flu time.

and your attitude helps. if you think positive, " I can handle this... "

your body responds more positively. finding things to take your mind off

how you feel lowers your stress hormones. sugar and caffeine are really

hard on the immune system but nutra sweet is worse. stevia is an herb

that is becoming more popular, its not a dangerous chemical but a plant

that is 300 times sweeter than sugar, comes in a liquid or powder with

FOS for the GI health. don't get the kinds with glycerine, look for the

pure stevia, a little goes a LONG way.

melaleuca tea with a tiny bit of stevia helps a lot. olive leaf or

oregano are strong immune boosters, relaxation and meditation are

essential, eating raw foods, nuts, more veggies with those yummy fruits.

and get outside and away from that computer to enjoy the sunshine!

Blessings,

Marie

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[Guest guest]

I get antibiotics every time I get any dental work done. I've been doing

this for years anyway, due to a heart murmur-there is a risk that bacteria

could colonize on a defective valve and cause an infection in the

heart. How fun does that sound? I sliced my finger open with a hedge

trimmer just over a year post-op, and drove myself to the emergency

room. I got no antibiotics, but I did get several stitches and a tetanus

shot and had a great time education an ER physician about

resurfacing. Then last year I (stupidly) broke up a fight between my dog

and another by sticking my arm between them, and got bitten badly by my own

dog. I cleaned up the wound right away, but it did get infected, so a trip

to the urgent care clinic was in order. I got chewed out royally by the

physician there who said I should get antibiotics ANY TIME I get an animal

bite. Fortunately all worked out ok, but lesson learned. I often get

small cuts and scrapes, but don't do anything antibiotic-wise unless it

looks iffy. Otherwise, I'd be on them all the time-lol.

Cindy

C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

Boyd

[Guest guest]

Just a thought, but what if you suffer from bleeding gums from time

to time? I know you should visit the hygeniest, but some people

have bleeding gums anyway. Sheila.

In surfacehippy , Cindy Gronbach

wrote:

> I get antibiotics every time I get any dental work done. I've

been doing

> this for years anyway, due to a heart murmur-there is a risk that

bacteria

> could colonize on a defective valve and cause an infection in the

> heart. How fun does that sound? I sliced my finger open with a

hedge

> trimmer just over a year post-op, and drove myself to the

emergency

> room. I got no antibiotics, but I did get several stitches and a

tetanus

> shot and had a great time education an ER physician about

> resurfacing. Then last year I (stupidly) broke up a fight between

my dog

> and another by sticking my arm between them, and got bitten badly

by my own

> dog. I cleaned up the wound right away, but it did get infected,

so a trip

> to the urgent care clinic was in order. I got chewed out royally

by the

> physician there who said I should get antibiotics ANY TIME I get

an animal

> bite. Fortunately all worked out ok, but lesson learned. I often

get

> small cuts and scrapes, but don't do anything antibiotic-wise

unless it

> looks iffy. Otherwise, I'd be on them all the time-lol.

>

> Cindy

> C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

> Boyd

[Guest guest]

Bleeding gums is a sign of infection. Or there are medications and vitamin

supplements that thin your blood and can be a factor. Additionally hormones and

hormonal changes can be factors. Some people need to see their hygienist every

3 months and have periodontal therapy. My patients do not have bleeding gums.

Jude

Re: Infections

Just a thought, but what if you suffer from bleeding gums from time

to time? I know you should visit the hygeniest, but some people

have bleeding gums anyway. Sheila.

In surfacehippy , Cindy Gronbach

wrote:

> I get antibiotics every time I get any dental work done. I've

been doing

> this for years anyway, due to a heart murmur-there is a risk that

bacteria

> could colonize on a defective valve and cause an infection in the

> heart. How fun does that sound? I sliced my finger open with a

hedge

> trimmer just over a year post-op, and drove myself to the

emergency

> room. I got no antibiotics, but I did get several stitches and a

tetanus

> shot and had a great time education an ER physician about

> resurfacing. Then last year I (stupidly) broke up a fight between

my dog

> and another by sticking my arm between them, and got bitten badly

by my own

> dog. I cleaned up the wound right away, but it did get infected,

so a trip

> to the urgent care clinic was in order. I got chewed out royally

by the

> physician there who said I should get antibiotics ANY TIME I get

an animal

> bite. Fortunately all worked out ok, but lesson learned. I often

get

> small cuts and scrapes, but don't do anything antibiotic-wise

unless it

> looks iffy. Otherwise, I'd be on them all the time-lol.

>

> Cindy

> C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

> Boyd

[Guest guest]

Dear Edith,

Thanks so much for your considered reply. You are so thoughtful and

good about answering and it is much appreciated.

I find this whole question of infection (or not) baffling. The first

day after the op, when they got me up on my feet, I had acute, strong,

strong pain in my operated joint. From other's postings, I don't think

this is the norm? I don't think that pain was muscular, but of course

memory makes all this a bit fuzzy now, and it is hard to be certain. I

am over 6 months on now. The pain lessened, of course, and then much

was muscular, like everyone else. The second time I had intense pain

post-op was when they took me to be x-rayed at 2 (or was it 3?) days

post-op. Being moved from the bed to the trolley hurt a lot. And then,

being moved from the trolley unto the x-ray table and then lying there

for what seemed like ages while they did the x-ray was excruciating. I

have a high pain threshold, but I was screaming for some pain killers

and was sure that something had happened to my hip. (Kept thinking how

glad I was that I was in a hospital and wondered how war wounded stood

pain over the ages when getting help was impossible.)

Now, in retrospect, wonder if there could have been infection there

then? Or was the pain just the after effects from the op?

I think the OS thinks that if it is an infection, it came from the

op-although it is a good hospital. It is a rare occurrence, but can

happen. I am a pretty healthy person, eat well, etc. and had only

arthritis pre-op-no other major problems. And my OS said my bone was

very strong when he operated. My bone density test was good.

I do get most confused. And more so at present, because my pain has

been a bit better the past week. Good sunny weather? Muscles getting

stronger? Maybe no infection? I even slept one night without a single

pain killer, although needed one the next day. And last night I only

took one ibuprofen. Maybe it is just slow healing, like others, and

yourself, on this board. It is the fluctuations, the changes that make

for the confusion.

So-once again, thanks for listening.

Eleanor

Re: Re: feeling awful... failing BHR or not???

Hi Eleanor,

There are 2 sets of infection risks with the surgery of hip replacement.

Firstly the chances of staf infections which lurk with any encounter

with

surgery of any description from what I can gather......... Thus the

importance of checking out your hospital's history - though good

surgeons

generally refuse to operate in hospitals with high rates of staf

infection

history.

Secondly, the opportunity for infections such as osteomylitis to be

activated by interferring with bones during an operation........ It is

my

understanding from my own situation is that there is far more chance of

that

happening with a THR.......... No OS would even discuss doing a THR on

me

for 30 years........ and basically it was about the large risk of

provoking

my osteomylitis into being again through the radical interference with

the

bone required for a THR..........i.e. the larger the surface left

damaged

the greater the chance........... Because there is less interference

needed

with a Resurface and the all important bone marrow isn't touched, there

is

less chance.

Both these infections can occur simultaneously............

As I understand it once one gets some distance from the operation date

the

infections occuring under the cap would need introduction via other

sources

if one didn't show up with early hassles............. the teeth being

nominated as one possible site.........These come down to maintaining

good

general health, fitness etc and the luck of the draw........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> In answer to someone else, as I understand it, infection can occur

with

> both BHR and THR, but is very rare in each case. It is just one of

the

> risks of any surgery.

>

> Eleanor

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Eleanor

I sympathise with you so much, going through the anxiety of not " knowing " what

the pain is all about.

i am happy for you that the pain seems to go down in the last week and hope this

is the end of the tunnel for you.

Are you going to do the aspiration arthrogram anyway? do you have a date for it?

and did the surgeons consider AVN and ruled it out? did you have a bonescan? (I

cannot remember if youdid or not)

I just had a blood test yesterday for infection and am waiting for the results.

I will maybe have a bonescan as well.

I aslo have pain in my calk and lower leg like pin and needles and a tight band

around it. Did you ever experience that kind of pain?

I find that doing a long relaxation/visualisation helps me to deal with the pain

and the anxiety. Do you do that?

take care and keep in touch

Sunita

Re: Re: feeling awful... failing BHR or not???

Hi Eleanor,

There are 2 sets of infection risks with the surgery of hip replacement.

Firstly the chances of staf infections which lurk with any encounter

with

surgery of any description from what I can gather......... Thus the

importance of checking out your hospital's history - though good

surgeons

generally refuse to operate in hospitals with high rates of staf

infection

history.

Secondly, the opportunity for infections such as osteomylitis to be

activated by interferring with bones during an operation........ It is

my

understanding from my own situation is that there is far more chance of

that

happening with a THR.......... No OS would even discuss doing a THR on

me

for 30 years........ and basically it was about the large risk of

provoking

my osteomylitis into being again through the radical interference with

the

bone required for a THR..........i.e. the larger the surface left

damaged

the greater the chance........... Because there is less interference

needed

with a Resurface and the all important bone marrow isn't touched, there

is

less chance.

Both these infections can occur simultaneously............

As I understand it once one gets some distance from the operation date

the

infections occuring under the cap would need introduction via other

sources

if one didn't show up with early hassles............. the teeth being

nominated as one possible site.........These come down to maintaining

good

general health, fitness etc and the luck of the draw........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> In answer to someone else, as I understand it, infection can occur

with

> both BHR and THR, but is very rare in each case. It is just one of

the

> risks of any surgery.

>

> Eleanor

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Eleanor

I sympathise with you so much, going through the anxiety of not " knowing " what

the pain is all about.

i am happy for you that the pain seems to go down in the last week and hope this

is the end of the tunnel for you.

Are you going to do the aspiration arthrogram anyway? do you have a date for it?

and did the surgeons consider AVN and ruled it out? did you have a bonescan? (I

cannot remember if youdid or not)

I just had a blood test yesterday for infection and am waiting for the results.

I will maybe have a bonescan as well.

I aslo have pain in my calk and lower leg like pin and needles and a tight band

around it. Did you ever experience that kind of pain?

I find that doing a long relaxation/visualisation helps me to deal with the pain

and the anxiety. Do you do that?

take care and keep in touch

Sunita

Re: Re: feeling awful... failing BHR or not???

Hi Eleanor,

There are 2 sets of infection risks with the surgery of hip replacement.

Firstly the chances of staf infections which lurk with any encounter

with

surgery of any description from what I can gather......... Thus the

importance of checking out your hospital's history - though good

surgeons

generally refuse to operate in hospitals with high rates of staf

infection

history.

Secondly, the opportunity for infections such as osteomylitis to be

activated by interferring with bones during an operation........ It is

my

understanding from my own situation is that there is far more chance of

that

happening with a THR.......... No OS would even discuss doing a THR on

me

for 30 years........ and basically it was about the large risk of

provoking

my osteomylitis into being again through the radical interference with

the

bone required for a THR..........i.e. the larger the surface left

damaged

the greater the chance........... Because there is less interference

needed

with a Resurface and the all important bone marrow isn't touched, there

is

less chance.

Both these infections can occur simultaneously............

As I understand it once one gets some distance from the operation date

the

infections occuring under the cap would need introduction via other

sources

if one didn't show up with early hassles............. the teeth being

nominated as one possible site.........These come down to maintaining

good

general health, fitness etc and the luck of the draw........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> In answer to someone else, as I understand it, infection can occur

with

> both BHR and THR, but is very rare in each case. It is just one of

the

> risks of any surgery.

>

> Eleanor

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Eleanor,

Well glad that you are reporting improvement........... though as you say it

still holds much confusion........... It is good to get away from those

painkillers though.......... I have managed to excape them recently myself

and it is a nice feeling to count the days one takes them rather than the

days one doesn't have too........... Mine is just simply the rest of body

objecting in general so not the situation you face.........

Others may comment on that first moment of standing weight bearing........ I

had crutches for 6 weeks so much was healed by the time I got to put weight

on the joint............ I do remember being in so much pain standing and

taking a few hops on the good leg with the walking frame the first time out

of bed that I simply started to vomit........ As is the way with hospitals

and getting one going they then let me rest for a couple of hours and off we

went again...........groan. Later one appreciates all this..........but not

at the time.............

The only comment that I would make of your situation is, if it was

infection, I would have thought it wouldn't have been up and running so

badly as to cause intense pain so early.......... Even my rampant

osteomylitis would take at least a week to get wound up into very

noticeable pain............ And at my operation I was pumped full of

antibotics as I imagine most are.......... which should have kept infections

quiet if they were around........... I think said doses of antibotics

kept the pain at bay somewhat when his infection came along............

I would imagine that immediate post op bone pain that said problems would be

the result of something technically going wrong with how the prothesis was

affixed either end during the op..........Even cracks created with heavy

hands behind hammers would surely take a little bit to have an influence

because, as I understand it, they play out by causing the bone to die and

then the prothesis loses its intregity of fixture over a period of

time........obviously more than a few days............

In any event I do hope you continue to see improvements...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust. 8/02

>

> Thanks so much for your considered reply. You are so thoughtful and

> good about answering and it is much appreciated.

>

> I find this whole question of infection (or not) baffling. The first

> day after the op, when they got me up on my feet, I had acute, strong,

> strong pain in my operated joint. From other's postings, I don't think

> this is the norm? I don't think that pain was muscular, but of course

> memory makes all this a bit fuzzy now, and it is hard to be certain. I

> am over 6 months on now. The pain lessened, of course, and then much

> was muscular, like everyone else. The second time I had intense pain

> post-op was when they took me to be x-rayed at 2 (or was it 3?) days

> post-op. Being moved from the bed to the trolley hurt a lot. And then,

> being moved from the trolley unto the x-ray table and then lying there

> for what seemed like ages while they did the x-ray was excruciating. I

> have a high pain threshold, but I was screaming for some pain killers

> and was sure that something had happened to my hip. (Kept thinking how

> glad I was that I was in a hospital and wondered how war wounded stood

> pain over the ages when getting help was impossible.)

>

> Now, in retrospect, wonder if there could have been infection there

> then? Or was the pain just the after effects from the op?

>

> I think the OS thinks that if it is an infection, it came from the

> op-although it is a good hospital. It is a rare occurrence, but can

> happen. I am a pretty healthy person, eat well, etc. and had only

> arthritis pre-op-no other major problems. And my OS said my bone was

> very strong when he operated. My bone density test was good.

>

> I do get most confused. And more so at present, because my pain has

> been a bit better the past week. Good sunny weather? Muscles getting

> stronger? Maybe no infection? I even slept one night without a single

> pain killer, although needed one the next day. And last night I only

> took one ibuprofen. Maybe it is just slow healing, like others, and

> yourself, on this board. It is the fluctuations, the changes that make

> for the confusion.

>

> So-once again, thanks for listening.

>

> Eleanor

>`

[Guest guest]

Hi Eleanor,

Well glad that you are reporting improvement........... though as you say it

still holds much confusion........... It is good to get away from those

painkillers though.......... I have managed to excape them recently myself

and it is a nice feeling to count the days one takes them rather than the

days one doesn't have too........... Mine is just simply the rest of body

objecting in general so not the situation you face.........

Others may comment on that first moment of standing weight bearing........ I

had crutches for 6 weeks so much was healed by the time I got to put weight

on the joint............ I do remember being in so much pain standing and

taking a few hops on the good leg with the walking frame the first time out

of bed that I simply started to vomit........ As is the way with hospitals

and getting one going they then let me rest for a couple of hours and off we

went again...........groan. Later one appreciates all this..........but not

at the time.............

The only comment that I would make of your situation is, if it was

infection, I would have thought it wouldn't have been up and running so

badly as to cause intense pain so early.......... Even my rampant

osteomylitis would take at least a week to get wound up into very

noticeable pain............ And at my operation I was pumped full of

antibotics as I imagine most are.......... which should have kept infections

quiet if they were around........... I think said doses of antibotics

kept the pain at bay somewhat when his infection came along............

I would imagine that immediate post op bone pain that said problems would be

the result of something technically going wrong with how the prothesis was

affixed either end during the op..........Even cracks created with heavy

hands behind hammers would surely take a little bit to have an influence

because, as I understand it, they play out by causing the bone to die and

then the prothesis loses its intregity of fixture over a period of

time........obviously more than a few days............

In any event I do hope you continue to see improvements...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust. 8/02

>

> Thanks so much for your considered reply. You are so thoughtful and

> good about answering and it is much appreciated.

>

> I find this whole question of infection (or not) baffling. The first

> day after the op, when they got me up on my feet, I had acute, strong,

> strong pain in my operated joint. From other's postings, I don't think

> this is the norm? I don't think that pain was muscular, but of course

> memory makes all this a bit fuzzy now, and it is hard to be certain. I

> am over 6 months on now. The pain lessened, of course, and then much

> was muscular, like everyone else. The second time I had intense pain

> post-op was when they took me to be x-rayed at 2 (or was it 3?) days

> post-op. Being moved from the bed to the trolley hurt a lot. And then,

> being moved from the trolley unto the x-ray table and then lying there

> for what seemed like ages while they did the x-ray was excruciating. I

> have a high pain threshold, but I was screaming for some pain killers

> and was sure that something had happened to my hip. (Kept thinking how

> glad I was that I was in a hospital and wondered how war wounded stood

> pain over the ages when getting help was impossible.)

>

> Now, in retrospect, wonder if there could have been infection there

> then? Or was the pain just the after effects from the op?

>

> I think the OS thinks that if it is an infection, it came from the

> op-although it is a good hospital. It is a rare occurrence, but can

> happen. I am a pretty healthy person, eat well, etc. and had only

> arthritis pre-op-no other major problems. And my OS said my bone was

> very strong when he operated. My bone density test was good.

>

> I do get most confused. And more so at present, because my pain has

> been a bit better the past week. Good sunny weather? Muscles getting

> stronger? Maybe no infection? I even slept one night without a single

> pain killer, although needed one the next day. And last night I only

> took one ibuprofen. Maybe it is just slow healing, like others, and

> yourself, on this board. It is the fluctuations, the changes that make

> for the confusion.

>

> So-once again, thanks for listening.

>

> Eleanor

>`