Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I've been using either gimme lights from vendors, or cheapo lights from Walmart, for pupils, and general field exams. Does anyone have a light that they recommend (one that's portable enough to carry in a pocket, or belt, or in jump kit). Steve > Agree with the need for a darkened room- I don't have my copy of Degowan > and Degowan's Physical Exam handy, but if you think about it, if there is > much light in the room, watching for pupillary constriction is much tougher if > the pupils are already constricted from ambient light. > > there are other tests that you need to know about. > > In addition to the traditional 'approach from the side' constriction test, > you also want to do the 'swinging lamp test'....where the light is passed > from side to side from the front of the eyes. > > a positive test is where the pupil constricts from indirect stimulation > (light in the opposite eye) but not from direct stimulation- indicating > problems in the retina, optic nerve or brain stem. See Marcus Gunn pupil. > > the third test of pupillary activity is to watch for constriction as the > patient is asked to follow a moving finger. Both pupils should constrict as > the finger moves closer to the nose (accommodation). > > If the pupils constrict to accommodation, but one or both do not react to > light, then tertiary syphilis should be suspected (see Argyll on > pupil). > > ck > > > In a message dated 07/04/11 23:16:18 Central Daylight Time, wegandy@... > writes: > > > From Jarvis, Physical Examination and Health Assessment, 3rd edition, > Saunders, 2000, Ch. 12, p. 315: > > > " To test the pupillary light reflex, darken the room and ask the person to > gave into the distance. (This dilates the pupils.) Advance a light in > from the side and note the response. Normally you will see (1) constriction > of the same sided pupil (a direct light reflex) and (2) simultaneous > constriction of the other pupi (a consensual light reflex.). " > > > > From Tintinalli, Tintinalli's Emergency Medicine, 7th ed., American > College of Emergency Physicians, 2011, Ch. 236, p. 1522: > > > " Assess pupils under slightly dim light to test for an afferent pupillary > defect. " > > > Gene Gandy > > > > > > [texasems- l] dimming lights before checking pupils > To: texasems-l > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 5:57 AM > > > > I have a job basically doing physical exam > > On people all day , every day. I, out of habit, and because I can, dim the > lights before checking their pupils . I was told by our physician that " > it's not clinically appropriate to dim the lights before checking > pupils " no further explanation. No specific reason given. (even after asking for > the rationale) Just that isolated statement. > > Anyone else here thing that is strange or bizarre or weird or is it just > me??? > > Jim > > Physician Substitute ( just a fancy title- I'm a medic) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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