Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Just the fact that he said " in case he would need to go for a THR " means that you don't have 100% certaint going in. No surgeon should guarantee 100% anything until he really sees what the deal is with his own eyes during surgery. Perhaps the stateside doctors are just a bit more upfront about managing expectations because of our overly litigious society.... On the positive side here, keep in mind that surgeons participating in these U.S. trials are only really interested in taking on those patients who have the greatest chances of getting successfully resurfaced. Neither the surgeons nor the device manufacturers want failures. In a message dated 06/30/2004 3:08:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kinwitted@... writes: > He said in case he would need to go for a THR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Dear Toby, Thankyou so much for your most touching post. You've talked about what was so difficult and how you are managing it. Of course, a revision to a THR is what I am afraid of (I am waiting to see if I have an infection, as I am still having too much pain at 7 months). Your account of how good you are now was so encouraging. And I know how disappointed you are at the same time. I am sure your positive spirit will help your THR last as long as possible. Eleanor anyone else go in for resurf / wake up THR? Like probably a lot of prospective resurfacers I was told my OS (Dr. Mont) that while I was a good candidate for a resurfacing he would ultimately make the final decision in the operation. I'd known for a few years that I had osteoarthritis in my right hip and that surgery was going to be the only solution. The first couple docs I saw said total hip replacement was my only option. Finding out about hip resurfacing was the best news I had heard since I was first diagnosed with OA. I remember reading the hospital stay diary on Thunderball Hip (http://www.thunderballhip.50megs.com/custom.html) and getting the sweats when I reached the " SCREWED UP MOMENT " . My experience was similar except for one important detail. The part where he finds out that the nurse was wrong about him getting a THR. I woke up from surgery with my mom there telling me that Dr. Mont had tried but was unable to affix the resurfacing implant to his satisfaction and had revised to a ceramic on ceramic THR. I won't be proud here; I started bawling. That was to my mind the worst possible outcome of that surgery. I knew it was a possibility but I just hoped for the best and prepared for the worst. The technical reason given to me by Dr. Mont for the change was that the acetabular component wouldn't hold solidly. Maybe my bones were too soft? I don't know. Apparently to make it hold he would have to use screws to hold it. As of right now, there are plenty of cups with screw holes to match a THR femoral component but none to match the resurf femoral component. He expects that design revision to work its way down the pipeline soon but unfortunately for me, it's not here yet. Now before this seems like too much of a downer I should say that the point of this post is not to scare anyone. Yes I was very bummed out about not getting my first choice implant. But at the time I was told I was too heavily medicated and too busy mending my body to care. Now I'm less than a week away from my 6-week follow-up appointment and I feel great. I have NO pain in my hip joint and more range of movement than I've had in years (keeping in mind the movement restrictions which are the same regardless of your implant). I'm shocked that I have such a natural feeling joint given the size of what is in me. Considering that I am living with what I believed to be the worst possible outcome I feel really really good. Dr. Mont optimistically gives my implant a lifespan of 20 years with the sole caveat that I don't start running marathons. That's too short for my liking but to keep it in perspective, Odysseus got home in less time than that. So it's not like I won't get plenty of enjoyment out of it in the meantime. I know that given my age (28) I will certainly need a revision or 3 and that yeah, when that time comes I may have some bitterness at having gotten a THR so young. But for now I'm too busy feeling good and looking forward to enjoying the rest of the summer and years to come of happy pain-free mobility. If only I could do something about these damned itchy TEDs. - Tobias, c/c THR Dr Mont 5/27/04 PS. For prospective patients of Dr Mont I have good news. He has recently changed his technique and is now using a smaller incision to perform the operation. Mine is only 8cm long! I expressed a moment of doubt to his colleague about this and he told me 'Don't worry, stable fixation is still our number one priority. If we have to open you up further to get a good handle on it we won't hesitate to do so. It's just we no longer have to.' PPS. For those who haven't had a catheter before I would just like to say that that was the single most unpleasant & uncomfortable part of the whole hospital experience. (Except for the whole not getting a resurfacing part. ;-) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Toby, Thanks for your post and update. I'm scheduled for bilateral resufacing with Dr. Mont, right hip on 7/19/04 and left hip on 7/26/04. I still need to discuss with him what he'll use if he can't resurface. I never thought about a catheter. I've never had one. It sounds awful. Best of luck on your recovery. Randy > Dear Toby, > > Thankyou so much for your most touching post. You've talked about what > was so difficult and how you are managing it. Of course, a revision to > a THR is what I am afraid of (I am waiting to see if I have an > infection, as I am still having too much pain at 7 months). Your > account of how good you are now was so encouraging. And I know how > disappointed you are at the same time. I am sure your positive spirit > will help your THR last as long as possible. > > Eleanor > > anyone else go in for resurf / wake up THR? > > Like probably a lot of prospective resurfacers I was told my OS > (Dr. > Mont) that while I was a good candidate for a resurfacing he would > ultimately make the final decision in the operation. I'd known for a > few years that I had osteoarthritis in my right hip and that surgery > was going to be the only solution. The first couple docs I saw said > total hip replacement was my only option. Finding out about hip > resurfacing was the best news I had heard since I was first diagnosed > with OA. > I remember reading the hospital stay diary on Thunderball Hip > (http://www.thunderballhip.50megs.com/custom.html) and getting the > sweats when I reached the " SCREWED UP MOMENT " . My experience was > similar except for one important detail. The part where he finds out > that the nurse was wrong about him getting a THR. I woke up from > surgery with my mom there telling me that Dr. Mont had tried but was > unable to affix the resurfacing implant to his satisfaction and had > revised to a ceramic on ceramic THR. I won't be proud here; I started > bawling. That was to my mind the worst possible outcome of that > surgery. I knew it was a possibility but I just hoped for the best and > prepared for the worst. > The technical reason given to me by Dr. Mont for the change was > that > the acetabular component wouldn't hold solidly. Maybe my bones were > too soft? I don't know. Apparently to make it hold he would have to > use screws to hold it. As of right now, there are plenty of cups with > screw holes to match a THR femoral component but none to match the > resurf femoral component. He expects that design revision to work its > way down the pipeline soon but unfortunately for me, it's not here yet. > Now before this seems like too much of a downer I should say that > the > point of this post is not to scare anyone. Yes I was very bummed out > about not getting my first choice implant. But at the time I was told > I was too heavily medicated and too busy mending my body to care. Now > I'm less than a week away from my 6-week follow-up appointment and I > feel great. I have NO pain in my hip joint and more range of movement > than I've had in years (keeping in mind the movement restrictions which > are the same regardless of your implant). I'm shocked that I have such > a natural feeling joint given the size of what is in me. > Considering that I am living with what I believed to be the worst > possible outcome I feel really really good. Dr. Mont optimistically > gives my implant a lifespan of 20 years with the sole caveat that I > don't start running marathons. That's too short for my liking but to > keep it in perspective, Odysseus got home in less time than that. So > it's not like I won't get plenty of enjoyment out of it in the > meantime. I know that given my age (28) I will certainly need a > revision or 3 and that yeah, when that time comes I may have some > bitterness at having gotten a THR so young. But for now I'm too busy > feeling good and looking forward to enjoying the rest of the summer and > years to come of happy pain-free mobility. If only I could do > something about these damned itchy TEDs. > > > - Tobias, c/c THR Dr Mont 5/27/04 > > PS. For prospective patients of Dr Mont I have good news. He has > recently changed his technique and is now using a smaller incision to > perform the operation. Mine is only 8cm long! I expressed a moment of > doubt to his colleague about this and he told me 'Don't worry, stable > fixation is still our number one priority. If we have to open you up > further to get a good handle on it we won't hesitate to do so. It's > just we no longer have to.' > > PPS. For those who haven't had a catheter before I would just like to > say that that was the single most unpleasant & uncomfortable part of > the whole hospital experience. (Except for the whole not getting a > resurfacing part. ;-) ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Curious, in a way, that this should come back around... in regard to Dr. Mont. When I talked to Peggy , as I was first researching resurfacing in March, she told me the reason she went to Belgium was that she couldn't get assurance from Stateside docs that she wouldn't wake up with a pair of matching THR's, after having gone to sleep expecting to waken resurfed hips. It's one of the reasons she suggested that I try Dr. de Smet first, and not JRI. I'm still trying to make it happen in LA, but insurance considerations may make Belgium the only real option. With the ceramic/ceramic of MoM THR, I'd guess stability is less a problem... the remaining platform for future revisions. All the best... Alan > > Toby, > > Thanks for your post and update. I'm scheduled for bilateral > > resufacing with Dr. Mont, right hip on 7/19/04 and left hip on > > 7/26/04. I still need to discuss with him what he'll use if he > > can't resurface. I never thought about a catheter. I've never had > > one. It sounds awful. Best of luck on your recovery. > > Randy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Randy: Don't sweat the catheter - Dr. Mont did my brother's hip and when I visted him in the hospital on the third day, he told me that the catherter was no big deal. Ken > Toby, > Thanks for your post and update. I'm scheduled for bilateral > resufacing with Dr. Mont, right hip on 7/19/04 and left hip on > 7/26/04. I still need to discuss with him what he'll use if he > can't resurface. I never thought about a catheter. I've never had > one. It sounds awful. Best of luck on your recovery. > Randy > > > Dear Toby, > > > > Thankyou so much for your most touching post. You've talked about > what > > was so difficult and how you are managing it. Of course, a > revision to > > a THR is what I am afraid of (I am waiting to see if I have an > > infection, as I am still having too much pain at 7 months). Your > > account of how good you are now was so encouraging. And I know how > > disappointed you are at the same time. I am sure your positive > spirit > > will help your THR last as long as possible. > > > > Eleanor > > > > anyone else go in for resurf / wake up THR? > > > > Like probably a lot of prospective resurfacers I was told my > OS > > (Dr. > > Mont) that while I was a good candidate for a resurfacing he would > > ultimately make the final decision in the operation. I'd known > for a > > few years that I had osteoarthritis in my right hip and that > surgery > > was going to be the only solution. The first couple docs I saw > said > > total hip replacement was my only option. Finding out about hip > > resurfacing was the best news I had heard since I was first > diagnosed > > with OA. > > I remember reading the hospital stay diary on Thunderball > Hip > > (http://www.thunderballhip.50megs.com/custom.html) and getting the > > sweats when I reached the " SCREWED UP MOMENT " . My experience was > > similar except for one important detail. The part where he finds > out > > that the nurse was wrong about him getting a THR. I woke up from > > surgery with my mom there telling me that Dr. Mont had tried but > was > > unable to affix the resurfacing implant to his satisfaction and > had > > revised to a ceramic on ceramic THR. I won't be proud here; I > started > > bawling. That was to my mind the worst possible outcome of that > > surgery. I knew it was a possibility but I just hoped for the > best and > > prepared for the worst. > > The technical reason given to me by Dr. Mont for the change > was > > that > > the acetabular component wouldn't hold solidly. Maybe my bones > were > > too soft? I don't know. Apparently to make it hold he would have > to > > use screws to hold it. As of right now, there are plenty of cups > with > > screw holes to match a THR femoral component but none to match the > > resurf femoral component. He expects that design revision to work > its > > way down the pipeline soon but unfortunately for me, it's not here > yet. > > Now before this seems like too much of a downer I should say > that > > the > > point of this post is not to scare anyone. Yes I was very bummed > out > > about not getting my first choice implant. But at the time I was > told > > I was too heavily medicated and too busy mending my body to care. > Now > > I'm less than a week away from my 6-week follow-up appointment and > I > > feel great. I have NO pain in my hip joint and more range of > movement > > than I've had in years (keeping in mind the movement restrictions > which > > are the same regardless of your implant). I'm shocked that I have > such > > a natural feeling joint given the size of what is in me. > > Considering that I am living with what I believed to be the > worst > > possible outcome I feel really really good. Dr. Mont > optimistically > > gives my implant a lifespan of 20 years with the sole caveat that > I > > don't start running marathons. That's too short for my liking but > to > > keep it in perspective, Odysseus got home in less time than that. > So > > it's not like I won't get plenty of enjoyment out of it in the > > meantime. I know that given my age (28) I will certainly need a > > revision or 3 and that yeah, when that time comes I may have some > > bitterness at having gotten a THR so young. But for now I'm too > busy > > feeling good and looking forward to enjoying the rest of the > summer and > > years to come of happy pain-free mobility. If only I could do > > something about these damned itchy TEDs. > > > > > > - Tobias, c/c THR Dr Mont 5/27/04 > > > > PS. For prospective patients of Dr Mont I have good news. He has > > recently changed his technique and is now using a smaller incision > to > > perform the operation. Mine is only 8cm long! I expressed a > moment of > > doubt to his colleague about this and he told me 'Don't worry, > stable > > fixation is still our number one priority. If we have to open you > up > > further to get a good handle on it we won't hesitate to do so. > It's > > just we no longer have to.' > > > > PPS. For those who haven't had a catheter before I would just > like to > > say that that was the single most unpleasant & uncomfortable part > of > > the whole hospital experience. (Except for the whole not getting a > > resurfacing part. ;-) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Randy: Don't sweat the catheter - Dr. Mont did my brother's hip and when I visted him in the hospital on the third day, he told me that the catherter was no big deal. Ken > Toby, > Thanks for your post and update. I'm scheduled for bilateral > resufacing with Dr. Mont, right hip on 7/19/04 and left hip on > 7/26/04. I still need to discuss with him what he'll use if he > can't resurface. I never thought about a catheter. I've never had > one. It sounds awful. Best of luck on your recovery. > Randy > > > Dear Toby, > > > > Thankyou so much for your most touching post. You've talked about > what > > was so difficult and how you are managing it. Of course, a > revision to > > a THR is what I am afraid of (I am waiting to see if I have an > > infection, as I am still having too much pain at 7 months). Your > > account of how good you are now was so encouraging. And I know how > > disappointed you are at the same time. I am sure your positive > spirit > > will help your THR last as long as possible. > > > > Eleanor > > > > anyone else go in for resurf / wake up THR? > > > > Like probably a lot of prospective resurfacers I was told my > OS > > (Dr. > > Mont) that while I was a good candidate for a resurfacing he would > > ultimately make the final decision in the operation. I'd known > for a > > few years that I had osteoarthritis in my right hip and that > surgery > > was going to be the only solution. The first couple docs I saw > said > > total hip replacement was my only option. Finding out about hip > > resurfacing was the best news I had heard since I was first > diagnosed > > with OA. > > I remember reading the hospital stay diary on Thunderball > Hip > > (http://www.thunderballhip.50megs.com/custom.html) and getting the > > sweats when I reached the " SCREWED UP MOMENT " . My experience was > > similar except for one important detail. The part where he finds > out > > that the nurse was wrong about him getting a THR. I woke up from > > surgery with my mom there telling me that Dr. Mont had tried but > was > > unable to affix the resurfacing implant to his satisfaction and > had > > revised to a ceramic on ceramic THR. I won't be proud here; I > started > > bawling. That was to my mind the worst possible outcome of that > > surgery. I knew it was a possibility but I just hoped for the > best and > > prepared for the worst. > > The technical reason given to me by Dr. Mont for the change > was > > that > > the acetabular component wouldn't hold solidly. Maybe my bones > were > > too soft? I don't know. Apparently to make it hold he would have > to > > use screws to hold it. As of right now, there are plenty of cups > with > > screw holes to match a THR femoral component but none to match the > > resurf femoral component. He expects that design revision to work > its > > way down the pipeline soon but unfortunately for me, it's not here > yet. > > Now before this seems like too much of a downer I should say > that > > the > > point of this post is not to scare anyone. Yes I was very bummed > out > > about not getting my first choice implant. But at the time I was > told > > I was too heavily medicated and too busy mending my body to care. > Now > > I'm less than a week away from my 6-week follow-up appointment and > I > > feel great. I have NO pain in my hip joint and more range of > movement > > than I've had in years (keeping in mind the movement restrictions > which > > are the same regardless of your implant). I'm shocked that I have > such > > a natural feeling joint given the size of what is in me. > > Considering that I am living with what I believed to be the > worst > > possible outcome I feel really really good. Dr. Mont > optimistically > > gives my implant a lifespan of 20 years with the sole caveat that > I > > don't start running marathons. That's too short for my liking but > to > > keep it in perspective, Odysseus got home in less time than that. > So > > it's not like I won't get plenty of enjoyment out of it in the > > meantime. I know that given my age (28) I will certainly need a > > revision or 3 and that yeah, when that time comes I may have some > > bitterness at having gotten a THR so young. But for now I'm too > busy > > feeling good and looking forward to enjoying the rest of the > summer and > > years to come of happy pain-free mobility. If only I could do > > something about these damned itchy TEDs. > > > > > > - Tobias, c/c THR Dr Mont 5/27/04 > > > > PS. For prospective patients of Dr Mont I have good news. He has > > recently changed his technique and is now using a smaller incision > to > > perform the operation. Mine is only 8cm long! I expressed a > moment of > > doubt to his colleague about this and he told me 'Don't worry, > stable > > fixation is still our number one priority. If we have to open you > up > > further to get a good handle on it we won't hesitate to do so. > It's > > just we no longer have to.' > > > > PPS. For those who haven't had a catheter before I would just > like to > > say that that was the single most unpleasant & uncomfortable part > of > > the whole hospital experience. (Except for the whole not getting a > > resurfacing part. ;-) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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