Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 No From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin abaustin+yahoogroups@...> wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 No From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin abaustin+yahoogroups@...> wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 No From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin abaustin+yahoogroups@...> wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nursing study is much different from paramedic study. The requirements for degree or diploma for nursing are stricter and require more in-depth subject matter than paramedic school. There are however “bridge†programs that provide credit to the medic for medic classes and shorten the time period needed to obtain a nursing degree. The standards of practice that apply to medics and nurses are so different it would be a huge disservice to the medic to allow nursing practice based solely on passing the NCLEX. Rick From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of T68b@... Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic hmmmmm So, theoretically, it only works one way.... In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, swalker@... writes: No From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nursing study is much different from paramedic study. The requirements for degree or diploma for nursing are stricter and require more in-depth subject matter than paramedic school. There are however “bridge†programs that provide credit to the medic for medic classes and shorten the time period needed to obtain a nursing degree. The standards of practice that apply to medics and nurses are so different it would be a huge disservice to the medic to allow nursing practice based solely on passing the NCLEX. Rick From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of T68b@... Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic hmmmmm So, theoretically, it only works one way.... In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, swalker@... writes: No From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nursing study is much different from paramedic study. The requirements for degree or diploma for nursing are stricter and require more in-depth subject matter than paramedic school. There are however “bridge†programs that provide credit to the medic for medic classes and shorten the time period needed to obtain a nursing degree. The standards of practice that apply to medics and nurses are so different it would be a huge disservice to the medic to allow nursing practice based solely on passing the NCLEX. Rick From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of T68b@... Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic hmmmmm So, theoretically, it only works one way.... In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, swalker@... writes: No From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 No it only works one way period. Theroy need not be applied. I once considered doing the financial aid thing for nursing school to become a Medic vai the then very easy paper process in PA. instead I had another kid. Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI Typed by my fingers on my iPhone. Please excuse any typos. (Cell) LNMolino@... > hmmmmm > So, theoretically, it only works one way.... > > > In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > swalker@... writes: > > > > > No > > From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) > [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l > ) ] On > Behalf Of jeremydriver > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM > To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) > Subject: Re: RN to paramedic > > > > As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@... > _ > (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@...) > > wrote: > > In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which > allows > them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could > just > challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, > necessarily) that > RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical > director's > approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to > become > prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination > thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take > a 40 hour > Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN > license, get > prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). > > I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) > but I'll > keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. > > Austin > > > >> Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding >> what's > involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? >> >> Thanks, >> Wes Ogilvie >> >> Sent from my iPad > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 No it only works one way period. Theroy need not be applied. I once considered doing the financial aid thing for nursing school to become a Medic vai the then very easy paper process in PA. instead I had another kid. Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI Typed by my fingers on my iPhone. Please excuse any typos. (Cell) LNMolino@... > hmmmmm > So, theoretically, it only works one way.... > > > In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > swalker@... writes: > > > > > No > > From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) > [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l > ) ] On > Behalf Of jeremydriver > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM > To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) > Subject: Re: RN to paramedic > > > > As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@... > _ > (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@...) > > wrote: > > In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which > allows > them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could > just > challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, > necessarily) that > RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical > director's > approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to > become > prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination > thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take > a 40 hour > Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN > license, get > prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). > > I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) > but I'll > keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. > > Austin > > > >> Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding >> what's > involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? >> >> Thanks, >> Wes Ogilvie >> >> Sent from my iPad > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 No it only works one way period. Theroy need not be applied. I once considered doing the financial aid thing for nursing school to become a Medic vai the then very easy paper process in PA. instead I had another kid. Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI Typed by my fingers on my iPhone. Please excuse any typos. (Cell) LNMolino@... > hmmmmm > So, theoretically, it only works one way.... > > > In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > swalker@... writes: > > > > > No > > From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) > [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l > ) ] On > Behalf Of jeremydriver > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM > To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) > Subject: Re: RN to paramedic > > > > As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@... > _ > (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@...) > > wrote: > > In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which > allows > them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could > just > challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, > necessarily) that > RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical > director's > approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to > become > prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination > thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take > a 40 hour > Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN > license, get > prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). > > I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) > but I'll > keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. > > Austin > > > >> Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding >> what's > involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? >> >> Thanks, >> Wes Ogilvie >> >> Sent from my iPad > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 The DSHS EMS/Trauma System website outlines the procedure for certifying/licensing individuals from other healthcare disciplines. The website is http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/emstraumasystems/sequiv.shtm. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of T68b@... Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic hmmmmm So, theoretically, it only works one way.... In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, swalker@... writes: No From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@... _ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 The DSHS EMS/Trauma System website outlines the procedure for certifying/licensing individuals from other healthcare disciplines. The website is http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/emstraumasystems/sequiv.shtm. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of T68b@... Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic hmmmmm So, theoretically, it only works one way.... In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, swalker@... writes: No From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@... _ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 The DSHS EMS/Trauma System website outlines the procedure for certifying/licensing individuals from other healthcare disciplines. The website is http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/emstraumasystems/sequiv.shtm. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of T68b@... Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic hmmmmm So, theoretically, it only works one way.... In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, swalker@... writes: No From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin _abaustin+yahoogroups@... _ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Can you define the " Hugh disservice " part of your statement. L. Bobbitt, RN LP Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin __abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:_abaustin+yahoogroups@...) _ (mailto:_abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@...) ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Can you define the " Hugh disservice " part of your statement. L. Bobbitt, RN LP Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin __abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:_abaustin+yahoogroups@...) _ (mailto:_abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@...) ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 If the nurse was not an EMT-B and didn’t have to verify advanced skills with a course coordinator and perform clinicals prior to setting for the exam yes I would. For the record I am a nurse and a paramedic. I was a nurse first and took all three courses (Basic, Intermediate and Paramedic) and performed clinical hours for each and really believe it should be that way. I truly believe that being a paramedic helps me be a better nurse, but being a nurse does not help me be a better paramedic. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of T68b@... Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:16 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic You don't think it'd be a huge disservice to the patient allowing a nurse who challenged and passed an exam to be allowed to then be a field paramedic? In a message dated 7/19/2010 3:10:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rick.moore@... writes: Nursing study is much different from paramedic study. The requirements for degree or diploma for nursing are stricter and require more in-depth subject matter than paramedic school. There are however “bridge†programs that provide credit to the medic for medic classes and shorten the time period needed to obtain a nursing degree. The standards of practice that apply to medics and nurses are so different it would be a huge disservice to the medic to allow nursing practice based solely on passing the NCLEX. Rick From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On Behalf Of _T68b@..._ (mailto:T68b@...) Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic hmmmmm So, theoretically, it only works one way.... In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _swalker@..._ (mailto:swalker@...) writes: No From: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ) [mailto:__texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ) ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin __abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:_abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) _ (mailto:_abaustin+yahoogroups@... _ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 If the nurse was not an EMT-B and didn’t have to verify advanced skills with a course coordinator and perform clinicals prior to setting for the exam yes I would. For the record I am a nurse and a paramedic. I was a nurse first and took all three courses (Basic, Intermediate and Paramedic) and performed clinical hours for each and really believe it should be that way. I truly believe that being a paramedic helps me be a better nurse, but being a nurse does not help me be a better paramedic. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of T68b@... Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:16 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: RN to paramedic You don't think it'd be a huge disservice to the patient allowing a nurse who challenged and passed an exam to be allowed to then be a field paramedic? In a message dated 7/19/2010 3:10:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rick.moore@... writes: Nursing study is much different from paramedic study. The requirements for degree or diploma for nursing are stricter and require more in-depth subject matter than paramedic school. There are however “bridge†programs that provide credit to the medic for medic classes and shorten the time period needed to obtain a nursing degree. The standards of practice that apply to medics and nurses are so different it would be a huge disservice to the medic to allow nursing practice based solely on passing the NCLEX. Rick From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) [mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On Behalf Of _T68b@..._ (mailto:T68b@...) Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic hmmmmm So, theoretically, it only works one way.... In a message dated 7/19/2010 1:48:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _swalker@..._ (mailto:swalker@...) writes: No From: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ) [mailto:__texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ) ] On Behalf Of jeremydriver Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:38 AM To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ) Subject: Re: RN to paramedic As a medic can we challenge the nursing exam? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:24 AM, A Austin __abaustin+yahoogroups@..._ (mailto:_abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) _ (mailto:_abaustin+yahoogroups@... _ (mailto:abaustin+yahoogroups@... ) ) > wrote: In Texas, I believe they can take a one semester bridge class which allows them to sit for the National Registry exam. Previously they could just challenge the test. I have been told (though do not believe, necessarily) that RNs with ECA can provide ALS on an ambulance with the medical director's approval. In other states, there are a variety of methods for RNs to become prehospital providers. Most follow one of three tracks (or combination thereof): (1) Gain your EMT, challenge the Paramedic test. (2) Take a 40 hour Paramedic refresher, challenge Paramedic test. (3) Show your RN license, get prehospital RN license (PHRN, MICN). I have a lot of opinions on this (looking at it from both sides) but I'll keep them to myself unless someone else brings it up. Austin > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > Thanks, > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 In a message dated 7/19/2010 4:10:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rick.moore@... writes: but being a nurse does not help me be a better paramedic. REALLY? Interesting statement. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 In a message dated 7/19/2010 4:10:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rick.moore@... writes: but being a nurse does not help me be a better paramedic. REALLY? Interesting statement. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 In a message dated 7/19/2010 4:10:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rick.moore@... writes: but being a nurse does not help me be a better paramedic. REALLY? Interesting statement. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I am a true beleaver in education. I think that any education will make you better it maynot be in large ways but any education, not matter what is always a good thing. Subject: Re: RN to paramedic To: texasems-l Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 4:23 PM  In a message dated 7/19/2010 4:10:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rick.moore@... writes: but being a nurse does not help me be a better paramedic. REALLY? Interesting statement. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 On Monday, July 19, 2010 15:15, T68b@... said: > You don't think it'd be a huge disservice to the patient allowing a nurse > who challenged and passed an exam to be allowed to then be a field > paramedic? No, but we currently do a huge disservice to our patients and our profession by allowing people who complete the pitifully inadequate minimum requirements for paramedic registry. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I'll do it for him. Hugh has always gotten the short end of the stick. As an elementary student, kids used to make fund of him. Moving through jr. high and high school was a nightmare. So much so, that the the government passed a Hugh incentive program that advantages him in every way. So, allowing nurses to be paramedics without any courses/training would dis-service Hugh who is, by now, used to getting everything done for him by the government. (Ouch, my cheek hurts....) > > > Does anyone know much about the current state of things regarding what's > involved for an RN to challenge for paramedic? > > > > Thanks, > > Wes Ogilvie > > > > Sent from my iPad > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Ok, I just have to ask; besides changing bed sheets, giving sponge baths, and writing care plans, what exactly are nursing students taught about emergency patient care that is so far superior to what is taught to paramedic students? Please enlighten me.  McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T  Subject: Re: RN to paramedic To: texasems-l Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 6:12 PM  On Monday, July 19, 2010 15:15, T68b@... said: > You don't think it'd be a huge disservice to the patient allowing a nurse > who challenged and passed an exam to be allowed to then be a field > paramedic? No, but we currently do a huge disservice to our patients and our profession by allowing people who complete the pitifully inadequate minimum requirements for paramedic registry. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Ok, I just have to ask; besides changing bed sheets, giving sponge baths, and writing care plans, what exactly are nursing students taught about emergency patient care that is so far superior to what is taught to paramedic students? Please enlighten me.  McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T  Subject: Re: RN to paramedic To: texasems-l Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 6:12 PM  On Monday, July 19, 2010 15:15, T68b@... said: > You don't think it'd be a huge disservice to the patient allowing a nurse > who challenged and passed an exam to be allowed to then be a field > paramedic? No, but we currently do a huge disservice to our patients and our profession by allowing people who complete the pitifully inadequate minimum requirements for paramedic registry. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Oh boy! This should be fun to watch. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T Re: RN to paramedic To: texasems-l Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 6:12 PM  On Monday, July 19, 2010 15:15, T68b@... said: > You don't think it'd be a huge disservice to the patient allowing a nurse > who challenged and passed an exam to be allowed to then be a field > paramedic? No, but we currently do a huge disservice to our patients and our profession by allowing people who complete the pitifully inadequate minimum requirements for paramedic registry. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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