Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Ok I have something to add. 1. I think the education the newer medics are getting is better. Stronger A&P, more clinicals for example. 2. Respect, When I started out close to 24 years ago we EMT were tought that paramedics earned some respect and that is something that I see not being there. But that part maybe arguable 3. Tech. New medics I have observed use bp machines and pulse ox alot and I have question a few of them about their ability to do a manual bp. Sadly, more then a few times they could not get a accurate manual bp. 4. Lazyness, enough sad but thats oppinon too 5. Wanting to become paramedics way too fast without getting a ferm grasp on the basic while being a basic for a bit and learning what a good basic needs to be. 6. The schools agreeability to let students go from EMT to Paramedic without having some practical experience. After all, Lord I know I am going to get it for this, the school want the students so they get paid. Schools first and foremost want to get paid. If the school dirictors cannot get enough students then they do not get pain and they may have to go work fulltime back on trucks. Yes I know that comment will not be very popular. But fast tracked Paramedics or simply not as good as medic who worked and basics to perfect the basic skills. 7. Not sure if this ws what you were going for but here ya go. Peace and Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Ok I have something to add. 1. I think the education the newer medics are getting is better. Stronger A&P, more clinicals for example. 2. Respect, When I started out close to 24 years ago we EMT were tought that paramedics earned some respect and that is something that I see not being there. But that part maybe arguable 3. Tech. New medics I have observed use bp machines and pulse ox alot and I have question a few of them about their ability to do a manual bp. Sadly, more then a few times they could not get a accurate manual bp. 4. Lazyness, enough sad but thats oppinon too 5. Wanting to become paramedics way too fast without getting a ferm grasp on the basic while being a basic for a bit and learning what a good basic needs to be. 6. The schools agreeability to let students go from EMT to Paramedic without having some practical experience. After all, Lord I know I am going to get it for this, the school want the students so they get paid. Schools first and foremost want to get paid. If the school dirictors cannot get enough students then they do not get pain and they may have to go work fulltime back on trucks. Yes I know that comment will not be very popular. But fast tracked Paramedics or simply not as good as medic who worked and basics to perfect the basic skills. 7. Not sure if this ws what you were going for but here ya go. Peace and Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 As you might expect, yes there is going to be a response from a college EMS program director. 1. The education of the medics is better now than say 25 years ago, so is the science. The educational standards have nothing to do with more clinical time, it has to do with research and using the scientific method prior to teaching the material. 2. Respect is earned, not assumed. There are a lot of " old " medics and " new " medics that I respect, and just as may that I do not. The red patch is not a rite of respect, the person behind the patch is what gains the respect. 3. With the evolution of technology there is a distance from what we old medics consider basic skills and abilities. Each program should teach the new and old ways and not rely solely on one or the other. 4. I know lazy from both the old and the new. 5. On this issue I will cover both #5 & #6. Becoming a paramedic too quick is really not a fair way to evaluate it, so people are very fast and good learners, while others take a while to grasp concepts. As far as the school wanting this to happen for the money, you really need to figure out how a school receives monies. Tuition from students makes up only a very small (less than 10%)of the funding necessary for each student per semester. On the issue of going straight from EMT/B to EMT/P i have seen it work well both ways, one not any better than the other. I advise students in this same manner. Some people are ready for the advanced training quicker than others. Besides what is the benefit of becoming an EMT/B and riding on a transfer truck for a year or two, how exactly is that helping them prepare for the advanced level of training? I feel that a well done clinical program is more beneficial for the advancing student. Some " experienced " students have to be re-trained to remove the " bad " habits that they picked up while working as an EMT/B. > > Ok I have something to add. > 1. I think the education the newer medics are getting is better. Stronger A&P, more clinicals for example. > 2. Respect, When I started out close to 24 years ago we EMT were tought that paramedics earned some respect and that is something that I see not being there. But that part maybe arguable > 3. Tech. New medics I have observed use bp machines and pulse ox alot and I have question a few of them about their ability to do a manual bp. Sadly, more then a few times they could not get a accurate manual bp. > 4. Lazyness, enough sad but thats oppinon too > 5. Wanting to become paramedics way too fast without getting a ferm grasp on the basic while being a basic for a bit and learning what a good basic needs to be. > 6. The schools agreeability to let students go from EMT to Paramedic without having some practical experience. After all, Lord I know I am going to get it for this, the school want the students so they get paid. Schools first and foremost want to get paid. If the school dirictors cannot get enough students then they do not get pain and they may have to go work fulltime back on trucks. Yes I know that comment will not be very popular. But fast tracked Paramedics or simply not as good as medic who worked and basics to perfect the basic skills. > 7. Not sure if this ws what you were going for but here ya go. > Peace and Love > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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