Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Is this the same guy who started the Epi-Pen legislation? I'm grateful (somewhat) for the legislative attention, but this really should be up to the individual service. We don't want to end up like some states where the Legislature and not the Medical Directors, govern EMS practice. Joe Percer, LP > > > Senate Bill 1808 by Lucio. Relating to pediatric equipment and supplies for > emergency medical services vehicles and pediatric care training for > emergency medical services personnel. > > I'm resisting the urge for editorial comments now, but will comment once > y'all get started. > > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad > > -- ph M. Percer, AAS, LP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Not sure if Sen. Lucio was the one behind the Epi-Pen legislation, but the bill has a real potential for trouble. I could easily see advocates " for the children " coming up with some pretty onerous equipment requirements, especially if those not associated with EMS or emergency medicine are involved. Additionally, to me, the CE requirements seem to apply to all EMS personnel regardless of which recertification option they choose. Again, the bill seems to have good intentions, but also to be written by someone with limited knowledge of EMS. Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/LP Sent from my iPad > Is this the same guy who started the Epi-Pen legislation? > > I'm grateful (somewhat) for the legislative attention, but this really > should be up to the individual service. We don't want to end up like some > states where the Legislature and not the Medical Directors, govern EMS > practice. > > Joe Percer, LP > > > >> >> >> Senate Bill 1808 by Lucio. Relating to pediatric equipment and supplies for >> emergency medical services vehicles and pediatric care training for >> emergency medical services personnel. >> >> I'm resisting the urge for editorial comments now, but will comment once >> y'all get started. >> >> Wes Ogilvie >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > > > > -- > ph M. Percer, AAS, LP > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Not sure if Sen. Lucio was the one behind the Epi-Pen legislation, but the bill has a real potential for trouble. I could easily see advocates " for the children " coming up with some pretty onerous equipment requirements, especially if those not associated with EMS or emergency medicine are involved. Additionally, to me, the CE requirements seem to apply to all EMS personnel regardless of which recertification option they choose. Again, the bill seems to have good intentions, but also to be written by someone with limited knowledge of EMS. Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/LP Sent from my iPad > Is this the same guy who started the Epi-Pen legislation? > > I'm grateful (somewhat) for the legislative attention, but this really > should be up to the individual service. We don't want to end up like some > states where the Legislature and not the Medical Directors, govern EMS > practice. > > Joe Percer, LP > > > >> >> >> Senate Bill 1808 by Lucio. Relating to pediatric equipment and supplies for >> emergency medical services vehicles and pediatric care training for >> emergency medical services personnel. >> >> I'm resisting the urge for editorial comments now, but will comment once >> y'all get started. >> >> Wes Ogilvie >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > > > > -- > ph M. Percer, AAS, LP > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 This was not the person behind the Epi-Pen legislation. A search on 'epinephrine' shows that to be Rep. , in 2007. Regarding SB1808: This is essentially another 16 hours of CEU on top of the 144 hours we're already required to complete as Paramedics, if I'm reading it correctly, unless they're going to just adjust the 12 hours now to read 16. I don't see how they'll do that though, as it requires 8 hours in a 2 year period, while we're currently working off a 4 year cycle. This essentially looks like he's legislating a PALS card. And you're correct Wes, that it doesn't seem to allow for the other recert options that we currently have available. I am not saying that the Pediatric education is a bad thing, but we have a commission to handle this sort of thing, or at least, I thought that was part of DSHS' job. On the equipment thing - It's not a bad way to keep services who don't want to stock in check, but the bill doesn't even specify what they want us to carry, which is probably a good thing. Hopefully the folks in Austin can keep that list at a reasonable level. Joe Percer, LP > > > Not sure if Sen. Lucio was the one behind the Epi-Pen legislation, but the > bill has a real potential for trouble. I could easily see advocates " for the > children " coming up with some pretty onerous equipment requirements, > especially if those not associated with EMS or emergency medicine are > involved. > > Additionally, to me, the CE requirements seem to apply to all EMS personnel > regardless of which recertification option they choose. Again, the bill > seems to have good intentions, but also to be written by someone with > limited knowledge of EMS. > > Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/LP > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > Is this the same guy who started the Epi-Pen legislation? > > > > I'm grateful (somewhat) for the legislative attention, but this really > > should be up to the individual service. We don't want to end up like some > > states where the Legislature and not the Medical Directors, govern EMS > > practice. > > > > Joe Percer, LP > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> Senate Bill 1808 by Lucio. Relating to pediatric equipment and supplies > for > >> emergency medical services vehicles and pediatric care training for > >> emergency medical services personnel. > >> > >> I'm resisting the urge for editorial comments now, but will comment once > >> y'all get started. > >> > >> Wes Ogilvie > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ph M. Percer, AAS, LP > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 This was not the person behind the Epi-Pen legislation. A search on 'epinephrine' shows that to be Rep. , in 2007. Regarding SB1808: This is essentially another 16 hours of CEU on top of the 144 hours we're already required to complete as Paramedics, if I'm reading it correctly, unless they're going to just adjust the 12 hours now to read 16. I don't see how they'll do that though, as it requires 8 hours in a 2 year period, while we're currently working off a 4 year cycle. This essentially looks like he's legislating a PALS card. And you're correct Wes, that it doesn't seem to allow for the other recert options that we currently have available. I am not saying that the Pediatric education is a bad thing, but we have a commission to handle this sort of thing, or at least, I thought that was part of DSHS' job. On the equipment thing - It's not a bad way to keep services who don't want to stock in check, but the bill doesn't even specify what they want us to carry, which is probably a good thing. Hopefully the folks in Austin can keep that list at a reasonable level. Joe Percer, LP > > > Not sure if Sen. Lucio was the one behind the Epi-Pen legislation, but the > bill has a real potential for trouble. I could easily see advocates " for the > children " coming up with some pretty onerous equipment requirements, > especially if those not associated with EMS or emergency medicine are > involved. > > Additionally, to me, the CE requirements seem to apply to all EMS personnel > regardless of which recertification option they choose. Again, the bill > seems to have good intentions, but also to be written by someone with > limited knowledge of EMS. > > Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/LP > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > Is this the same guy who started the Epi-Pen legislation? > > > > I'm grateful (somewhat) for the legislative attention, but this really > > should be up to the individual service. We don't want to end up like some > > states where the Legislature and not the Medical Directors, govern EMS > > practice. > > > > Joe Percer, LP > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> Senate Bill 1808 by Lucio. Relating to pediatric equipment and supplies > for > >> emergency medical services vehicles and pediatric care training for > >> emergency medical services personnel. > >> > >> I'm resisting the urge for editorial comments now, but will comment once > >> y'all get started. > >> > >> Wes Ogilvie > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ph M. Percer, AAS, LP > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 This was not the person behind the Epi-Pen legislation. A search on 'epinephrine' shows that to be Rep. , in 2007. Regarding SB1808: This is essentially another 16 hours of CEU on top of the 144 hours we're already required to complete as Paramedics, if I'm reading it correctly, unless they're going to just adjust the 12 hours now to read 16. I don't see how they'll do that though, as it requires 8 hours in a 2 year period, while we're currently working off a 4 year cycle. This essentially looks like he's legislating a PALS card. And you're correct Wes, that it doesn't seem to allow for the other recert options that we currently have available. I am not saying that the Pediatric education is a bad thing, but we have a commission to handle this sort of thing, or at least, I thought that was part of DSHS' job. On the equipment thing - It's not a bad way to keep services who don't want to stock in check, but the bill doesn't even specify what they want us to carry, which is probably a good thing. Hopefully the folks in Austin can keep that list at a reasonable level. Joe Percer, LP > > > Not sure if Sen. Lucio was the one behind the Epi-Pen legislation, but the > bill has a real potential for trouble. I could easily see advocates " for the > children " coming up with some pretty onerous equipment requirements, > especially if those not associated with EMS or emergency medicine are > involved. > > Additionally, to me, the CE requirements seem to apply to all EMS personnel > regardless of which recertification option they choose. Again, the bill > seems to have good intentions, but also to be written by someone with > limited knowledge of EMS. > > Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/LP > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > Is this the same guy who started the Epi-Pen legislation? > > > > I'm grateful (somewhat) for the legislative attention, but this really > > should be up to the individual service. We don't want to end up like some > > states where the Legislature and not the Medical Directors, govern EMS > > practice. > > > > Joe Percer, LP > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> Senate Bill 1808 by Lucio. Relating to pediatric equipment and supplies > for > >> emergency medical services vehicles and pediatric care training for > >> emergency medical services personnel. > >> > >> I'm resisting the urge for editorial comments now, but will comment once > >> y'all get started. > >> > >> Wes Ogilvie > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ph M. Percer, AAS, LP > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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