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I do not disagree with you in the least bit, however, going back to

professional courtesy, agreed for every one " good " EMS provider that does not

ask for getting out of a ticket or hell even a discount at burger king and gets

it there are ten that do. As described they try and " badge " out of a ticket

etc., but I can't help but think that this goes just as much for cops too. I

have been to numerous accidents hell even a fall that S.O. Beat us on scene and

because it was a fellow officer Lifeflight was called by the deputies when it

was not necessary, and we didn't dare cancel them. Now was this right of

course not but in my opinion (and the flight crews) it was us showing

professional courtesy to the injured officer and his buddies. This may be

comparing apples to oranges but come on you were in an ambulance and you were

transporting a pt. It's really not like you were trying to pull the " Badge

card " . Just my opinion

P.s. As I have been told be several LE peeps as well as a trooper buddy of mine

traffic citations are solely officer discretion.

-Chris

Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my

iPhone

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew his doors offâ€. He could have had

enough, and decided this is the only way to get “US†all to slow down. Or

he may be under directives from on high to crack down and give all ambulances

citations, regardless of “Professional Courtesy.†This is probably the most

likely scenario. At least it makes me think more of him if this is the case,

instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

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Yep....I guess I have just been lucky. I was on FM 2234/Texas Parkway once, and

got pulled over, IN the Ambulance. We were running late, and my partner (who NOW

works for the Sheriff's Dept) was bitching cause I was going too slow.....so I

sped up....in  Missouri City.

Sheesh....peer pressure :)

I was let off with a warning.... " Tell everyone in the company, if I see it

again, I'm gonna nail the driver "

I just had to look at my partner and laugh......there was no " Told ya so "

necessary.

Coug.

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew his

doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way to

get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

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Yep....I guess I have just been lucky. I was on FM 2234/Texas Parkway once, and

got pulled over, IN the Ambulance. We were running late, and my partner (who NOW

works for the Sheriff's Dept) was bitching cause I was going too slow.....so I

sped up....in  Missouri City.

Sheesh....peer pressure :)

I was let off with a warning.... " Tell everyone in the company, if I see it

again, I'm gonna nail the driver "

I just had to look at my partner and laugh......there was no " Told ya so "

necessary.

Coug.

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew his

doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way to

get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

>

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>

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Yep....I guess I have just been lucky. I was on FM 2234/Texas Parkway once, and

got pulled over, IN the Ambulance. We were running late, and my partner (who NOW

works for the Sheriff's Dept) was bitching cause I was going too slow.....so I

sped up....in  Missouri City.

Sheesh....peer pressure :)

I was let off with a warning.... " Tell everyone in the company, if I see it

again, I'm gonna nail the driver "

I just had to look at my partner and laugh......there was no " Told ya so "

necessary.

Coug.

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew his

doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way to

get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

>

>

>

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Gene credit at the bar is not allowed please pay all tabs in full at the end of

the knight and after this thread I need a drink? a double.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

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> I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our

non-lawyer members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city

attorney for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things

about the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's

amazing how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come

out of the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

>

>

> Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it

with the State Bar of Texas?

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> Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

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Gene credit at the bar is not allowed please pay all tabs in full at the end of

the knight and after this thread I need a drink? a double.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

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LNMolino@...

> I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our

non-lawyer members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city

attorney for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things

about the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's

amazing how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come

out of the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

>

>

> Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it

with the State Bar of Texas?

>

>

> Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

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> -----Original Message-----

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WHY?

Did you not say yourself, that it was urgent, that the pt get to the hospital

for treatment? 

Myself, had I been given a ticket in Missouri City....I prolly would not have

fought that, because I only sped up, only because my partner was nagging at me.

You, on the other hand....

1) were exceedng the speed limit for the benefit of the patient's health.

2) According to the Laws Alyssa posted, acted within the Law.

It is one thing to stand up and be accountable for your actions, but it is not

right, to " buckle " when you did no wrong. 

Take into account " Driving to Conditions "

If a pack of vehicles are going 65 in a 50, and ONE vehicle is only going 60,

THAT vehicle is more likely to get the speeding ticket. Because they are going

slower, and not with the flow, they create a rolling obstacle, that can cause an

accident.

Always go with the flow of the traffic, (and stay in the front) is what I was

taught.

You did nothing wrong, why roll over? If for nothing else, the officer detained

an actual medical EMS transport, KNOWING you were patient loaded. He should have

cut you loose, the SECOND he knew that, and the PT needed treatment.

I deserved a ticket more than you....I had no medical reason to be speeding. I

would hate to see you roll over on this, you were in the right.

Cougar!!

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions.  I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit.  It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?  This led me to an

entirely new thought.  Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past.  I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston.  Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law.  I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€.  He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down.  Or he may be under directives from on high

to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service.  So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law.  The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. 

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public. 

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour.  The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone. 

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

mdfinney@...

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WHY?

Did you not say yourself, that it was urgent, that the pt get to the hospital

for treatment? 

Myself, had I been given a ticket in Missouri City....I prolly would not have

fought that, because I only sped up, only because my partner was nagging at me.

You, on the other hand....

1) were exceedng the speed limit for the benefit of the patient's health.

2) According to the Laws Alyssa posted, acted within the Law.

It is one thing to stand up and be accountable for your actions, but it is not

right, to " buckle " when you did no wrong. 

Take into account " Driving to Conditions "

If a pack of vehicles are going 65 in a 50, and ONE vehicle is only going 60,

THAT vehicle is more likely to get the speeding ticket. Because they are going

slower, and not with the flow, they create a rolling obstacle, that can cause an

accident.

Always go with the flow of the traffic, (and stay in the front) is what I was

taught.

You did nothing wrong, why roll over? If for nothing else, the officer detained

an actual medical EMS transport, KNOWING you were patient loaded. He should have

cut you loose, the SECOND he knew that, and the PT needed treatment.

I deserved a ticket more than you....I had no medical reason to be speeding. I

would hate to see you roll over on this, you were in the right.

Cougar!!

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions.  I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit.  It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?  This led me to an

entirely new thought.  Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past.  I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston.  Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law.  I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€.  He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down.  Or he may be under directives from on high

to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service.  So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law.  The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. 

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public. 

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour.  The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone. 

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

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Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions.  I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit.  It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?  This led me to an

entirely new thought.  Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past.  I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston.  Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law.  I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€.  He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down.  Or he may be under directives from on high

to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service.  So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law.  The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. 

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public. 

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour.  The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone. 

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

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Since you are an EVOC instructor, you know that the rules change, during

" Urgent " or " Emergency " runs.

Most of the EMT's I have ridden with during an emergency run, while I am

driving, start FREAKING OUT because I am not staying in between the dotted white

lines.

At a higher rate of speed, you are driving a vehicle that is top heavy, and has

a higher center of gravity than those white lines were engineered for.

The trick is to maneuver the vehicle, in a manner that minimizes

tilt,...forwards backwards, and side to side. If you make an Emergency run,

(Ideally) you should be able to put a cup of coffee on the floor, in the back,

and it still be standing when you arrive. (this includes braking and

acceleration techniques)

The white lines, are no longer a " RULE " with higher speed driving. You choose

your own lines, to achieve minimal tilt. Of course.....as conditions allow,

You know all this, you are trained to drive at a higher speed, when needed, just

as is the officer.

The general public,......is not.

In this case....you had the ability, the training, AND the reason, to be

exceeding the speed limit.

You are 100% in the right.

Cougar!!

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions.  I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit.  It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?  This led me to an

entirely new thought.  Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past.  I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston.  Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law.  I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€.  He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down.  Or he may be under directives from on high

to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service.  So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law.  The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. 

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public. 

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour.  The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone. 

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

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Of couse you know, everything i wrote, incorporates, 8 second lane changes,

keeping a " buffer " space between yourself and the next vehicle, constantly

" Scanning " your mirrors, and looking way ahead for traffic conditions....brake

lights, etc. In higher speed driving, you are more of a " pilot " than a driver.

The stakes are higher, and attention must be given to every detail. During high

speed driving, your senses are at an extremely elevated level, But you have been

trained to handle that. And 16 mph over, on a straightaway, with the flow of

traffic....come on....

Don't sell yourself short. 

Coug.

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions.  I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit.  It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?  This led me to an

entirely new thought.  Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past.  I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston.  Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law.  I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€.  He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down.  Or he may be under directives from on high

to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service.  So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law.  The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. 

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public. 

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour.  The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone. 

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

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Of couse you know, everything i wrote, incorporates, 8 second lane changes,

keeping a " buffer " space between yourself and the next vehicle, constantly

" Scanning " your mirrors, and looking way ahead for traffic conditions....brake

lights, etc. In higher speed driving, you are more of a " pilot " than a driver.

The stakes are higher, and attention must be given to every detail. During high

speed driving, your senses are at an extremely elevated level, But you have been

trained to handle that. And 16 mph over, on a straightaway, with the flow of

traffic....come on....

Don't sell yourself short. 

Coug.

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions.  I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit.  It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?  This led me to an

entirely new thought.  Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past.  I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston.  Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law.  I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€.  He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down.  Or he may be under directives from on high

to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service.  So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law.  The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. 

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public. 

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour.  The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone. 

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

mdfinney@...

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I'm impressed, more than distressed

despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

ck

In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

amwoods8644@... writes:

The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

CPR Instructor

> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have

never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

control of.

>

> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer.

Grandpa.

> What about that scares you?

> Coug.

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

> >

> > From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> > Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> > To: texasems-l

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >

> > So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> > rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

the EVOC

> > classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

wrong

> > in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

adhere

> > to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> > recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted

speed

> > limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

little

> > voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >

> > I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> > situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

This

> > led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community

that

> > is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

driving

> > the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

know

> > that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

did

> > not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> > around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

> > ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by

speeding,

> > reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined,

it

> > could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

do not

> > know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

ambulance that

> > had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> > his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

only way

> > to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

high to

> > crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

Professional

> > Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

makes me

> > think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

bucket-head.

> >

> > I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

Privateâ€

> > ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

Privateâ€

> > ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of

> > ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> > community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and

911

> > Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

> > “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

> > and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

> >

> > I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles

per

> > hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

emphasize in

> > my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

all

> > EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >

> > That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

and

> > slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >

> > Mr. Marcus Finney

> > mdfinney@...

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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I'm impressed, more than distressed

despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

ck

In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

amwoods8644@... writes:

The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

CPR Instructor

> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have

never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

control of.

>

> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer.

Grandpa.

> What about that scares you?

> Coug.

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

> >

> > From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> > Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> > To: texasems-l

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >

> > So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> > rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

the EVOC

> > classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

wrong

> > in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

adhere

> > to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> > recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted

speed

> > limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

little

> > voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >

> > I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> > situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

This

> > led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community

that

> > is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

driving

> > the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

know

> > that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

did

> > not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> > around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

> > ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by

speeding,

> > reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined,

it

> > could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

do not

> > know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

ambulance that

> > had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> > his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

only way

> > to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

high to

> > crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

Professional

> > Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

makes me

> > think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

bucket-head.

> >

> > I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

Privateâ€

> > ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

Privateâ€

> > ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of

> > ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> > community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and

911

> > Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

> > “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

> > and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

> >

> > I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles

per

> > hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

emphasize in

> > my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

all

> > EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >

> > That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

and

> > slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >

> > Mr. Marcus Finney

> > mdfinney@...

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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I'm impressed, more than distressed

despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

ck

In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

amwoods8644@... writes:

The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

CPR Instructor

> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have

never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

control of.

>

> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer.

Grandpa.

> What about that scares you?

> Coug.

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

> >

> > From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> > Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> > To: texasems-l

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >

> > So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> > rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

the EVOC

> > classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

wrong

> > in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

adhere

> > to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> > recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted

speed

> > limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

little

> > voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >

> > I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> > situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

This

> > led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community

that

> > is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

driving

> > the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

know

> > that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

did

> > not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> > around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

> > ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by

speeding,

> > reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined,

it

> > could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

do not

> > know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

ambulance that

> > had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> > his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

only way

> > to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

high to

> > crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

Professional

> > Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

makes me

> > think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

bucket-head.

> >

> > I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

Privateâ€

> > ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

Privateâ€

> > ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of

> > ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> > community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and

911

> > Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

> > “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

> > and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

> >

> > I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles

per

> > hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

emphasize in

> > my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

all

> > EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >

> > That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

and

> > slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >

> > Mr. Marcus Finney

> > mdfinney@...

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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if you have the time, I've got a rhyme...

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In a message dated 01/15/11 19:15:19 Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

You had to look up Fuddy Duddy?

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> I'm impressed, more than distressed

>

> despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

>

> And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

>

> ck

>

>

> In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

> amwoods8644@... writes:

>

> The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

>

> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> CPR Instructor

>

>

>

>

>

>> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I

have

> never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

>> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

> control of.

>>

>> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

> down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old

Geezer.

> Grandpa.

>> What about that scares you?

>> Coug.

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>>

>>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>> To: texasems-l

>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>>

>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

> the EVOC

>>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

> wrong

>>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

> adhere

>>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the

posted

> speed

>>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

> little

>>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>>

>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

> This

>>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS

community

> that

>>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

> driving

>>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

> know

>>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

> did

>>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by

> speeding,

>>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be

imagined,

> it

>>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

> do not

>>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

> ambulance that

>>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

> only way

>>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

> high to

>>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

> Professional

>>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

> makes me

>>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

> bucket-head.

>>>

>>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

> percentage of

>>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and

> 911

>>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the

public

>>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

> hospital,

>>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>>

>>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76

miles

> per

>>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

> emphasize in

>>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

> all

>>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>>

>>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

> and

>>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>>

>>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>> mdfinney@...

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

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if you have the time, I've got a rhyme...

ck

In a message dated 01/15/11 19:15:19 Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

You had to look up Fuddy Duddy?

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> I'm impressed, more than distressed

>

> despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

>

> And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

>

> ck

>

>

> In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

> amwoods8644@... writes:

>

> The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

>

> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> CPR Instructor

>

>

>

>

>

>> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I

have

> never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

>> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

> control of.

>>

>> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

> down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old

Geezer.

> Grandpa.

>> What about that scares you?

>> Coug.

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>>

>>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>> To: texasems-l

>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>>

>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

> the EVOC

>>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

> wrong

>>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

> adhere

>>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the

posted

> speed

>>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

> little

>>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>>

>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

> This

>>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS

community

> that

>>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

> driving

>>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

> know

>>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

> did

>>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by

> speeding,

>>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be

imagined,

> it

>>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

> do not

>>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

> ambulance that

>>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

> only way

>>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

> high to

>>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

> Professional

>>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

> makes me

>>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

> bucket-head.

>>>

>>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

> percentage of

>>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and

> 911

>>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the

public

>>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

> hospital,

>>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>>

>>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76

miles

> per

>>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

> emphasize in

>>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

> all

>>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>>

>>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

> and

>>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>>

>>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>> mdfinney@...

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> Yahoo! Groups Links

>>>

>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>>

>>>

>>>

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ck

In a message dated 01/15/11 19:15:19 Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

You had to look up Fuddy Duddy?

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> I'm impressed, more than distressed

>

> despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

>

> And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

>

> ck

>

>

> In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

> amwoods8644@... writes:

>

> The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

>

> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> CPR Instructor

>

>

>

>

>

>> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I

have

> never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

>> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

> control of.

>>

>> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

> down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old

Geezer.

> Grandpa.

>> What about that scares you?

>> Coug.

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>>

>>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>> To: texasems-l

>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>>

>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

> the EVOC

>>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

> wrong

>>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

> adhere

>>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the

posted

> speed

>>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

> little

>>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>>

>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

> This

>>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS

community

> that

>>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

> driving

>>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

> know

>>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

> did

>>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by

> speeding,

>>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be

imagined,

> it

>>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

> do not

>>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

> ambulance that

>>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

> only way

>>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

> high to

>>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

> Professional

>>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

> makes me

>>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

> bucket-head.

>>>

>>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

> percentage of

>>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and

> 911

>>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the

public

>>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

> hospital,

>>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>>

>>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76

miles

> per

>>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

> emphasize in

>>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

> all

>>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>>

>>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

> and

>>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>>

>>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>> mdfinney@...

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> Yahoo! Groups Links

>>>

>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

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>>

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>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>

>>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

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>

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>

>

>

>

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Cougar:

You scare me.

>

>

> Since you are an EVOC instructor, you know that the rules change, during

> " Urgent " or " Emergency " runs.

> Most of the EMT's I have ridden with during an emergency run, while I am

> driving, start FREAKING OUT because I am not staying in between the dotted

> white lines.

>

> At a higher rate of speed, you are driving a vehicle that is top heavy, and

> has a higher center of gravity than those white lines were engineered for.

> The trick is to maneuver the vehicle, in a manner that minimizes

> tilt,...forwards backwards, and side to side. If you make an Emergency run,

> (Ideally) you should be able to put a cup of coffee on the floor, in the

> back, and it still be standing when you arrive. (this includes braking and

> acceleration techniques)

> The white lines, are no longer a " RULE " with higher speed driving. You

> choose your own lines, to achieve minimal tilt. Of course.....as conditions

> allow,

> You know all this, you are trained to drive at a higher speed, when needed,

> just as is the officer.

> The general public,......is not.

> In this case....you had the ability, the training, AND the reason, to be

> exceeding the speed limit.

> You are 100% in the right.

>

> Cougar!!

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

>

> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> To: texasems-l

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy” bit, by driving

> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy” envelope by speeding,

> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> his doors off”. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

> to get “US” all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

> Courtesy.” This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private”

> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Private”

> ambulance service. So, I was a “911” ambulance adding to the percentage of

> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE” (Private and 911

> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

> “Ambulances”. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses” in a hospital,

> and “Paramedics” on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Cougar:

You scare me.

>

>

> Since you are an EVOC instructor, you know that the rules change, during

> " Urgent " or " Emergency " runs.

> Most of the EMT's I have ridden with during an emergency run, while I am

> driving, start FREAKING OUT because I am not staying in between the dotted

> white lines.

>

> At a higher rate of speed, you are driving a vehicle that is top heavy, and

> has a higher center of gravity than those white lines were engineered for.

> The trick is to maneuver the vehicle, in a manner that minimizes

> tilt,...forwards backwards, and side to side. If you make an Emergency run,

> (Ideally) you should be able to put a cup of coffee on the floor, in the

> back, and it still be standing when you arrive. (this includes braking and

> acceleration techniques)

> The white lines, are no longer a " RULE " with higher speed driving. You

> choose your own lines, to achieve minimal tilt. Of course.....as conditions

> allow,

> You know all this, you are trained to drive at a higher speed, when needed,

> just as is the officer.

> The general public,......is not.

> In this case....you had the ability, the training, AND the reason, to be

> exceeding the speed limit.

> You are 100% in the right.

>

> Cougar!!

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

>

> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> To: texasems-l

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy” bit, by driving

> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy” envelope by speeding,

> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> his doors off”. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

> to get “US” all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

> Courtesy.” This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private”

> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Private”

> ambulance service. So, I was a “911” ambulance adding to the percentage of

> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE” (Private and 911

> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

> “Ambulances”. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses” in a hospital,

> and “Paramedics” on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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wasn't that show just canceled last year?

ck

In a message dated 01/15/11 21:44:37 Central Standard Time,

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I don't know, y! I was just working on a script for the pilot of

" POLICE PARAMEDICS. " " A dynamic team of cop/paramedics patrols the dark

streets of Metropolis, busting the bad and curing the rest. Using their

ambulance as a " stealth police car " they are able to catch criminals in the

act,

sneak up on them as 'friendly medics,' shoot paralyzing drugs into them and

haul them off to the pokey without a glimmer of resistance. See

spectacular ambulance chases where the defibrillators go flying and oxygen

tanks

roll. With Dora Dull as the blonde bombshell " Jugs " who can cause ventricular

tachycardia just by getting out of the ambulance, and Dirk Dick as

" Brute, " the shaved-headed, tattooed, mustachioed muscle medic who never read

a

book but can diagnose a hot babe with only his tongue as EMS helicopters

roar overhead. Appearing on a channel near you soon. "

Whaddaya think, y? Want to become a writer for the series?

GG

-----Original Message-----

From: scottywmiles@...

To: texasems-l

Sent: Sat, Jan 15, 2011 7:02 pm

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

Its not the lodd.that I speak of, its the comments being made that at this

point serve no purpose.

respectfully submitted Mr Molino.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>

>> To: texasems-l

>>

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>>

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led

me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is

taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the

way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not

see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around

the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are

pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless

driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only

cause

this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this

officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by

him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

high to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

Professional Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least

it

makes me think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

bucket-head.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private

†ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

Private†ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of

the

community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “

Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital,

and “

Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>>

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles

per hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

emphasize in my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority

of

all EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>>

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

and slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>>

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

>>

>>

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I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our non-lawyer

members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city attorney

for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things about

the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's amazing

how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come out of

the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it with

the State Bar of Texas?

Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

mdfinney@...

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Just think Gene, our future is in their hands!

Rick

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From: Wegandy

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 05:27 PM

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our non-lawyer

members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city attorney

for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things about

the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's amazing

how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come out of

the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it with

the State Bar of Texas?

Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way to

get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances) are

all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. Just as

there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and “Paramedics†on

ambulances to the general public.

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

mdfinney@...

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Ditto.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> Cougar:

>

> You scare me.

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> Since you are an EVOC instructor, you know that the rules change, during

>> " Urgent " or " Emergency " runs.

>> Most of the EMT's I have ridden with during an emergency run, while I am

>> driving, start FREAKING OUT because I am not staying in between the dotted

>> white lines.

>>

>> At a higher rate of speed, you are driving a vehicle that is top heavy, and

>> has a higher center of gravity than those white lines were engineered for.

>> The trick is to maneuver the vehicle, in a manner that minimizes

>> tilt,...forwards backwards, and side to side. If you make an Emergency run,

>> (Ideally) you should be able to put a cup of coffee on the floor, in the

>> back, and it still be standing when you arrive. (this includes braking and

>> acceleration techniques)

>> The white lines, are no longer a " RULE " with higher speed driving. You

>> choose your own lines, to achieve minimal tilt. Of course.....as conditions

>> allow,

>> You know all this, you are trained to drive at a higher speed, when needed,

>> just as is the officer.

>> The general public,......is not.

>> In this case....you had the ability, the training, AND the reason, to be

>> exceeding the speed limit.

>> You are 100% in the right.

>>

>> Cougar!!

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>

>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>> To: texasems-l

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving

>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high

to

>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

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Double ditto

Rick

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From: Louis N. Molino, Sr.

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 05:36 PM

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

Ditto.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jan 15, 2011, at 16:29,

parachrisk@...> wrote:

> Cougar:

>

> You scare me.

>

> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Cougar!!

ems_cougar@...> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Since you are an EVOC instructor, you know that the rules change, during

>> " Urgent " or " Emergency " runs.

>> Most of the EMT's I have ridden with during an emergency run, while I am

>> driving, start FREAKING OUT because I am not staying in between the dotted

>> white lines.

>>

>> At a higher rate of speed, you are driving a vehicle that is top heavy, and

>> has a higher center of gravity than those white lines were engineered for.

>> The trick is to maneuver the vehicle, in a manner that minimizes

>> tilt,...forwards backwards, and side to side. If you make an Emergency run,

>> (Ideally) you should be able to put a cup of coffee on the floor, in the

>> back, and it still be standing when you arrive. (this includes braking and

>> acceleration techniques)

>> The white lines, are no longer a " RULE " with higher speed driving. You

>> choose your own lines, to achieve minimal tilt. Of course.....as conditions

>> allow,

>> You know all this, you are trained to drive at a higher speed, when needed,

>> just as is the officer.

>> The general public,......is not.

>> In this case....you had the ability, the training, AND the reason, to be

>> exceeding the speed limit.

>> You are 100% in the right.

>>

>> Cougar!!

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>

>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@...

>

>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>> To: texasems-l

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving

>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high

to

>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

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