Jump to content
RemedySpot.com

Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

Rate this topic

Guest guest

By Guest guest
in Health, Medicine and Natural Healing 11

 Share

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Gene credit at the bar is not allowed please pay all tabs in full at the end of

the knight and after this thread I need a drink… a double.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our

non-lawyer members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city

attorney for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things

about the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's

amazing how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come

out of the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

>

>

> Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it

with the State Bar of Texas?

>

>

> Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

>

>

>

>

>

> Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> To: texasems-l

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 87
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Popular Days

Popular Days

Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Gene credit at the bar is not allowed please pay all tabs in full at the end of

the knight and after this thread I need a drink… a double.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our

non-lawyer members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city

attorney for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things

about the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's

amazing how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come

out of the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

>

>

> Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it

with the State Bar of Texas?

>

>

> Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

>

>

>

>

>

> Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> To: texasems-l

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have never

had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance. 

It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete control

of. 

And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going down the

street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer. Grandpa.

What about that scares you?

Coug.

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> To: texasems-l

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

> in my actions.  I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

> limit.  It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?  This

> led me to an entirely new thought.  Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving

> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past.  I know

> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> around the streets of Houston.  Even if a small percentage of these

> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law.  I do not

> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> his doors offâ€.  He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

> to get “US†all to slow down.  Or he may be under directives from on high

to

> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

> ambulance service.  So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> community breaking the law.  The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

> “Ambulancesâ€.  Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour.  The one thing I emphasize in

> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Coug with all due respect, put the shovel down!!

-Chris

Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my

iPhone

> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have never

had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete control

of.

>

> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going down

the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer. Grandpa.

> What about that scares you?

> Coug.

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

>

>>

>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>> To: texasems-l

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving

>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high

to

>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

CPR Instructor

> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have never

had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete control

of.

>

> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going down

the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer. Grandpa.

> What about that scares you?

> Coug.

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

> >

> > From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> > Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> > To: texasems-l

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >

> > So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> > rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

> > classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

> > in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

> > to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> > recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

> > limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

> > voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >

> > I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> > situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

> > led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

> > is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy” bit, by driving

> > the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

> > that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

> > not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> > around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

> > ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy” envelope by speeding,

> > reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

> > could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

> > know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

> > had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> > his doors off”. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

> > to get “US” all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

> > crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

> > Courtesy.” This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

> > think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

> >

> > I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private”

> > ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Private”

> > ambulance service. So, I was a “911” ambulance adding to the percentage of

> > ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> > community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE” (Private and 911

> > Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

> > “Ambulances”. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses” in a hospital,

> > and “Paramedics” on ambulances to the general public.

> >

> > I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

> > hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

> > my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

> > EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >

> > That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

> > slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >

> > Mr. Marcus Finney

> > mdfinney@...

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

CPR Instructor

> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have never

had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete control

of.

>

> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going down

the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer. Grandpa.

> What about that scares you?

> Coug.

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

> >

> > From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> > Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> > To: texasems-l

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >

> > So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> > rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

> > classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

> > in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

> > to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> > recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

> > limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

> > voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >

> > I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> > situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

> > led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

> > is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy” bit, by driving

> > the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

> > that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

> > not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> > around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

> > ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy” envelope by speeding,

> > reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

> > could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

> > know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

> > had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> > his doors off”. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

> > to get “US” all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

> > crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

> > Courtesy.” This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

> > think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

> >

> > I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private”

> > ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Private”

> > ambulance service. So, I was a “911” ambulance adding to the percentage of

> > ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> > community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE” (Private and 911

> > Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

> > “Ambulances”. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses” in a hospital,

> > and “Paramedics” on ambulances to the general public.

> >

> > I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

> > hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

> > my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

> > EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >

> > That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

> > slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >

> > Mr. Marcus Finney

> > mdfinney@...

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

I'll take you to a casino any day.

Maybe it's the medium but the descriptions of your driving style scare me.

In all fairness I could see my driving style from when I was driving a 9-1-1

truck of some type nearly every day if my life described similarly.

I too can make the same 25+ year claim regarding driving. I say I had better

luck than skill until I was better than half way through that record.

As a Poker Player I live by better lucky than good at times as an EV Operator

that can get Ya killed.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have never

had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete control

of.

>

> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going down

the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer. Grandpa.

> What about that scares you?

> Coug.

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

>

>>

>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>> To: texasems-l

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving

>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high

to

>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

As a Fuddy Duddy, Old Geezer and a GrandPa I resemble that remark.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

>

> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> CPR Instructor

>

>

>

>

>

>> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have never

had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

>> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete control

of.

>>

>> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going down

the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer. Grandpa.

>> What about that scares you?

>> Coug.

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>>

>>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>> To: texasems-l

>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>>

>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

>>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

>>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

>>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

>>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

>>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>>

>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

>>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community

that

>>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

driving

>>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

>>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

>>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

>>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

>>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

>>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

>>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way

>>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

high to

>>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

>>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

>>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>>

>>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the

“Privateâ€

>>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

>>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

>>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

>>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

>>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>>

>>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

>>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

>>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

>>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>>

>>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

>>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>>

>>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>> mdfinney@...

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

As a Fuddy Duddy, Old Geezer and a GrandPa I resemble that remark.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

>

> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> CPR Instructor

>

>

>

>

>

>> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have never

had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

>> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete control

of.

>>

>> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going down

the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer. Grandpa.

>> What about that scares you?

>> Coug.

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>>

>>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>> To: texasems-l

>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>>

>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

>>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

>>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

>>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

>>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

>>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>>

>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

>>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community

that

>>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

driving

>>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

>>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

>>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

>>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

>>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

>>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

>>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way

>>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

high to

>>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

>>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

>>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>>

>>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the

“Privateâ€

>>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

>>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

>>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

>>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

>>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>>

>>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

>>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

>>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

>>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>>

>>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

>>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>>

>>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>> mdfinney@...

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Neither. The Broken Spoke.

GG

Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

On Saturday, January 15, 2011 17:27, " Wegandy " wegandy@...> said:

> How do I get credit for it with the State Bar of Texas?

Would that be Gilley's or Bob's?

Rob

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Visa. You can pay it off whenever you want or you can blame your buddy and sue

them to pay it off.

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf

Of Louis N. Molino, Sr.

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:38 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

Gene credit at the bar is not allowed please pay all tabs in full at the end of

the knight and after this thread I need a drink… a double.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jan 15, 2011, at 17:27, Wegandy wegandy@... >

wrote:

> I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our

non-lawyer members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city

attorney for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things

about the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's

amazing how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come

out of the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

>

>

> Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it with

the State Bar of Texas?

>

>

> Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

>

>

>

>

>

> Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> To: texasems-l

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances) are

all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. Just as

there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and “Paramedics†on

ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Visa. You can pay it off whenever you want or you can blame your buddy and sue

them to pay it off.

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf

Of Louis N. Molino, Sr.

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:38 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

Gene credit at the bar is not allowed please pay all tabs in full at the end of

the knight and after this thread I need a drink… a double.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jan 15, 2011, at 17:27, Wegandy wegandy@... >

wrote:

> I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our

non-lawyer members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city

attorney for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things

about the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's

amazing how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come

out of the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

>

>

> Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it with

the State Bar of Texas?

>

>

> Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

>

>

>

>

>

> Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> To: texasems-l

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances) are

all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. Just as

there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and “Paramedics†on

ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Visa. You can pay it off whenever you want or you can blame your buddy and sue

them to pay it off.

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf

Of Louis N. Molino, Sr.

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:38 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

Gene credit at the bar is not allowed please pay all tabs in full at the end of

the knight and after this thread I need a drink… a double.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jan 15, 2011, at 17:27, Wegandy wegandy@... >

wrote:

> I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our

non-lawyer members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city

attorney for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things

about the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's

amazing how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come

out of the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

>

>

> Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it with

the State Bar of Texas?

>

>

> Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

>

>

>

>

>

> Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> To: texasems-l

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances) are

all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€. Just as

there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and “Paramedics†on

ambulances to the general public.

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

> mdfinney@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

You had to look up Fuddy Duddy?

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> I'm impressed, more than distressed

>

> despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

>

> And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

>

> ck

>

>

> In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

> amwoods8644@... writes:

>

> The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

>

> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> CPR Instructor

>

>

>

>

>

>> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have

> never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

>> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

> control of.

>>

>> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

> down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer.

> Grandpa.

>> What about that scares you?

>> Coug.

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>>

>>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>> To: texasems-l

>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>>

>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

> the EVOC

>>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

> wrong

>>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

> adhere

>>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted

> speed

>>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

> little

>>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>>

>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

> This

>>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community

> that

>>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

> driving

>>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

> know

>>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

> did

>>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by

> speeding,

>>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined,

> it

>>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

> do not

>>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

> ambulance that

>>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

> only way

>>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

> high to

>>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

> Professional

>>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

> makes me

>>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

> bucket-head.

>>>

>>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

> percentage of

>>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and

> 911

>>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

> hospital,

>>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>>

>>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles

> per

>>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

> emphasize in

>>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

> all

>>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>>

>>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

> and

>>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>>

>>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>> mdfinney@...

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> Yahoo! Groups Links

>>>

>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

You had to look up Fuddy Duddy?

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> I'm impressed, more than distressed

>

> despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

>

> And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

>

> ck

>

>

> In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

> amwoods8644@... writes:

>

> The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

>

> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> CPR Instructor

>

>

>

>

>

>> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I have

> never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

>> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

> control of.

>>

>> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

> down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old Geezer.

> Grandpa.

>> What about that scares you?

>> Coug.

>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

>> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>>

>>

>>>

>>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>> To: texasems-l

>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>>

>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

> the EVOC

>>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

> wrong

>>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

> adhere

>>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted

> speed

>>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

> little

>>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>>

>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

> This

>>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community

> that

>>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by

> driving

>>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

> know

>>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

> did

>>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by

> speeding,

>>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined,

> it

>>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

> do not

>>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

> ambulance that

>>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

> only way

>>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

> high to

>>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

> Professional

>>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

> makes me

>>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

> bucket-head.

>>>

>>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

> Privateâ€

>>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

> percentage of

>>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and

> 911

>>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

> hospital,

>>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>>

>>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles

> per

>>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

> emphasize in

>>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

> all

>>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>>

>>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

> and

>>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>>

>>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>> mdfinney@...

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>> Yahoo! Groups Links

>>>

>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

I think you lost them at " impressed " ... (Funny cause it's true)

Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> if you have the time, I've got a rhyme...

>

> ck

>

>

> In a message dated 01/15/11 19:15:19 Central Standard Time,

> lnmolino@... writes:

>

> You had to look up Fuddy Duddy?

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

>

> > I'm impressed, more than distressed

> >

> > despite a lexicon wide, and a dictionary at my side,

> >

> > And I must say, that I learned a new word today!

> >

> > ck

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 01/15/11 18:12:15 Central Standard Time,

> > amwoods8644@... writes:

> >

> > The word " Fuddy Duddy " . (I have Thobianobiaphobia.)

> >

> > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B

> > CPR Instructor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >> Well,...I have been driving emergency traffic for over 20 years. I

> have

> > never had an accident, not put a scratch on an ambulance.

> >> It is a different way of driving, but a way that you are in complete

> > control of.

> >>

> >> And it is used ONLY when necessary. I don't drive like that just going

>

> > down the street. Most people think I drive like a Fuddy Duddy old

> Geezer.

> > Grandpa.

> >> What about that scares you?

> >> Coug.

> >> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> >> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

> >>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> >>> To: texasems-l

> >>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >>>

> >>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

> >>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind

> > the EVOC

> >>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was

> > wrong

> >>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to

> > adhere

> >>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

> >>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the

> posted

> > speed

> >>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that

> > little

> >>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >>>

> >>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

> >>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy?

> > This

> >>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS

> community

> > that

> >>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy” bit, by

> > driving

> >>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I

> > know

> >>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you

> > did

> >>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

> >>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

> >>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy” envelope by

> > speeding,

> >>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be

> imagined,

> > it

> >>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I

> > do not

> >>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th

> > ambulance that

> >>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> >>> his doors off”. He could have had enough, and decided this is the

> > only way

> >>> to get “US” all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

>

> > high to

> >>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

> > Professional

> >>> Courtesy.” This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it

> > makes me

> >>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

> > bucket-head.

> >>>

> >>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “

> > Private”

> >>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

> > Private”

> >>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911” ambulance adding to the

> > percentage of

> >>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

> >>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE” (Private and

> > 911

> >>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the

> public

> >>> “Ambulances”. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses” in a

> > hospital,

> >>> and “Paramedics” on ambulances to the general public.

> >>>

> >>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76

> miles

> > per

> >>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I

> > emphasize in

> >>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

>

> > all

> >>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >>>

> >>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

> > and

> >>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >>>

> >>> Mr. Marcus Finney

> >>> mdfinney@...

> >>>

> >>> ------------------------------------

> >>>

> >>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Gene. this has nothing to do with law, it is about how to handle an emergency

vehicle, while traveling at a higher rate of speed.

You will find NOTHING in the law books, about how to do an Emergency reverse in

a squad car. Slamming on the brakes, turning the wheel to the side, jamming the

transmission into reverse, then drive, and flooring it.

But this is taught at all police academies. However, you do not see cops doing

that every day. 

The driving I an talking about, it the " Smoothest " way from point A to point B "

If a road twists, and there are no other cars on the road, it is best to travel

a straight line, with minimal turning of the wheel, and minimal tilt. the lanes

may go side to side, but your unit does not need to. KEEP THE DECK LEVEL. (not

yelling, just being affirmative)

This method of driving cannot be found in a public book, or a Law. 

Using ALL aspects of it,....braking, acceleration, buffer spaces, watching your

speed, watching the traffic, 8 second lane changes, scanning the mirrors, and

above all....knowing when and when NOT to use it.

In over 20 years of using this method, I have never endangered the public, never

had an accident, and my patients, compliment me on the smooth ride. It applies

to emergent as well as non emergent traffic.

Mike

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

mdfinney@...

------------------------------------

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Gene. this has nothing to do with law, it is about how to handle an emergency

vehicle, while traveling at a higher rate of speed.

You will find NOTHING in the law books, about how to do an Emergency reverse in

a squad car. Slamming on the brakes, turning the wheel to the side, jamming the

transmission into reverse, then drive, and flooring it.

But this is taught at all police academies. However, you do not see cops doing

that every day. 

The driving I an talking about, it the " Smoothest " way from point A to point B "

If a road twists, and there are no other cars on the road, it is best to travel

a straight line, with minimal turning of the wheel, and minimal tilt. the lanes

may go side to side, but your unit does not need to. KEEP THE DECK LEVEL. (not

yelling, just being affirmative)

This method of driving cannot be found in a public book, or a Law. 

Using ALL aspects of it,....braking, acceleration, buffer spaces, watching your

speed, watching the traffic, 8 second lane changes, scanning the mirrors, and

above all....knowing when and when NOT to use it.

In over 20 years of using this method, I have never endangered the public, never

had an accident, and my patients, compliment me on the smooth ride. It applies

to emergent as well as non emergent traffic.

Mike

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

mdfinney@...

------------------------------------

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Gene. this has nothing to do with law, it is about how to handle an emergency

vehicle, while traveling at a higher rate of speed.

You will find NOTHING in the law books, about how to do an Emergency reverse in

a squad car. Slamming on the brakes, turning the wheel to the side, jamming the

transmission into reverse, then drive, and flooring it.

But this is taught at all police academies. However, you do not see cops doing

that every day. 

The driving I an talking about, it the " Smoothest " way from point A to point B "

If a road twists, and there are no other cars on the road, it is best to travel

a straight line, with minimal turning of the wheel, and minimal tilt. the lanes

may go side to side, but your unit does not need to. KEEP THE DECK LEVEL. (not

yelling, just being affirmative)

This method of driving cannot be found in a public book, or a Law. 

Using ALL aspects of it,....braking, acceleration, buffer spaces, watching your

speed, watching the traffic, 8 second lane changes, scanning the mirrors, and

above all....knowing when and when NOT to use it.

In over 20 years of using this method, I have never endangered the public, never

had an accident, and my patients, compliment me on the smooth ride. It applies

to emergent as well as non emergent traffic.

Mike

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation is

this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per hour

with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my EVOC

classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS related

traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and slow

down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

Mr. Marcus Finney

mdfinney@...

------------------------------------

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

But This is what was taught to me all these years, and it has worked

fantastically. It is what I have staked my own life on. and the lives of others.

It has never failed. And yes, it is skill, not luck. I do not often drive that

way, I usually go too slow for most people's taste.

But when the chips are down, and this unit needs to move,....hold on to your

seat, and rest assured I will get you there safely.

And I wont fry out the brake system like some people I have known (no one here)

in the middle of a call, because they had NO clue how to run hot....  properly.

Cloug.

REMOVED

>>

>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>> To: texasems-l

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving

>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high

to

>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

But This is what was taught to me all these years, and it has worked

fantastically. It is what I have staked my own life on. and the lives of others.

It has never failed. And yes, it is skill, not luck. I do not often drive that

way, I usually go too slow for most people's taste.

But when the chips are down, and this unit needs to move,....hold on to your

seat, and rest assured I will get you there safely.

And I wont fry out the brake system like some people I have known (no one here)

in the middle of a call, because they had NO clue how to run hot....  properly.

Cloug.

REMOVED

>>

>> From: Finney Marcus mdfinney@... >

>> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>> To: texasems-l

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

>> rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

>> classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

>> in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

>> to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

>> recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

>> limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little

>> voice in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

>> situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This

>> led me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that

>> is taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving

>> the way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know

>> that when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did

>> not see the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving

>> around the streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these

>> ambulances are pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding,

>> reckless driving, or any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it

>> could only cause this type of response from an officer of the law. I do not

>> know about this officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that

>> had come by him while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

>> to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high

to

>> crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

>> Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

>> think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

>> ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Privateâ€

>> ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage

of

>> ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the

>> community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

>> Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

>> “Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a

hospital,

>> and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

>> hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in

>> my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all

>> EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

>> slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Pursuit tactics in an ambulance. Can't say I've ever had a need for those.

Defensive vehicle operations are one thing but come on police pursuit driving

isn't EMS vehicle ops.

The problem I have with the whole " may exceed the speed limit " is that far far

too many EVO's seen to think that because they can they should at will.

You're right that knowing when to do and when not to do something (applies to

many more subjects than just driving BTW) is key.

One of the problems is that often the younger folks we put behind the wheel of

that emergency vehicle isn't mature enough to tell the difference and they

aren't experienced enough to know that fact.

Experience is a great educator but the tuition is mighty high.

If I had the power I'd take all the laws that give these kinds if vague " rights "

to EVO's off the books.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> Gene. this has nothing to do with law, it is about how to handle an emergency

vehicle, while traveling at a higher rate of speed.

> You will find NOTHING in the law books, about how to do an Emergency reverse

in a squad car. Slamming on the brakes, turning the wheel to the side, jamming

the transmission into reverse, then drive, and flooring it.

>

> But this is taught at all police academies. However, you do not see cops doing

that every day.

> The driving I an talking about, it the " Smoothest " way from point A to point

B "

>

> If a road twists, and there are no other cars on the road, it is best to

travel a straight line, with minimal turning of the wheel, and minimal tilt. the

lanes may go side to side, but your unit does not need to. KEEP THE DECK LEVEL.

(not yelling, just being affirmative)

> This method of driving cannot be found in a public book, or a Law.

> Using ALL aspects of it,....braking, acceleration, buffer spaces, watching

your speed, watching the traffic, 8 second lane changes, scanning the mirrors,

and above all....knowing when and when NOT to use it.

> In over 20 years of using this method, I have never endangered the public,

never had an accident, and my patients, compliment me on the smooth ride. It

applies to emergent as well as non emergent traffic.

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>

> To: texasems-l

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

>

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

>

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>

> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

>

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

>

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

>

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

>

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

>

> mdfinney@...

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Pursuit tactics in an ambulance. Can't say I've ever had a need for those.

Defensive vehicle operations are one thing but come on police pursuit driving

isn't EMS vehicle ops.

The problem I have with the whole " may exceed the speed limit " is that far far

too many EVO's seen to think that because they can they should at will.

You're right that knowing when to do and when not to do something (applies to

many more subjects than just driving BTW) is key.

One of the problems is that often the younger folks we put behind the wheel of

that emergency vehicle isn't mature enough to tell the difference and they

aren't experienced enough to know that fact.

Experience is a great educator but the tuition is mighty high.

If I had the power I'd take all the laws that give these kinds if vague " rights "

to EVO's off the books.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> Gene. this has nothing to do with law, it is about how to handle an emergency

vehicle, while traveling at a higher rate of speed.

> You will find NOTHING in the law books, about how to do an Emergency reverse

in a squad car. Slamming on the brakes, turning the wheel to the side, jamming

the transmission into reverse, then drive, and flooring it.

>

> But this is taught at all police academies. However, you do not see cops doing

that every day.

> The driving I an talking about, it the " Smoothest " way from point A to point

B "

>

> If a road twists, and there are no other cars on the road, it is best to

travel a straight line, with minimal turning of the wheel, and minimal tilt. the

lanes may go side to side, but your unit does not need to. KEEP THE DECK LEVEL.

(not yelling, just being affirmative)

> This method of driving cannot be found in a public book, or a Law.

> Using ALL aspects of it,....braking, acceleration, buffer spaces, watching

your speed, watching the traffic, 8 second lane changes, scanning the mirrors,

and above all....knowing when and when NOT to use it.

> In over 20 years of using this method, I have never endangered the public,

never had an accident, and my patients, compliment me on the smooth ride. It

applies to emergent as well as non emergent traffic.

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Subject: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>

> To: texasems-l

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

>

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

>

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>

> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

>

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

>

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

>

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

>

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

>

> mdfinney@...

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest guest

Guest guest

Posted
Posted

Can we please move on. even the comedy element of this thread is officially

over. Rip

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>

> To: texasems-l

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>

>

>

> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>

>

>

> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>

> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>

>

>

> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Privateâ€

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Privateâ€

ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911 Ambulances)

are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulancesâ€.

Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital, and

“Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>

>

>

> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>

>

>

> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>

>

>

> Mr. Marcus Finney

>

> mdfinney@...

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...