Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

[Guest guest]

Hell Louis, I want the whole bottle.

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McGee, EMT-P

> Gene credit at the bar is not allowed please pay all tabs in full at the end

of the knight and after this thread I need a drink… a double.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

>

> > I am simply amazed at the level of legal expertise on the part of our

non-lawyer members. I was a District and County attorney for 2 years and a city

attorney for several Texas cities for a decade or more, and I am learning things

about the traffic laws in Texas that I have simply never heard before. It's

amazing how they must have changed since I last practiced. They must have come

out of the last Session and just haven't made it into the Codes yet.

> >

> >

> > Thank you for this Continuing Legal Education. How do I get credit for it

with the State Bar of Texas?

> >

> >

> > Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> > To: texasems-l

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >

> > So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >

> > I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me

to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> > his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

> >

> > I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the

“Private†ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Private†ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of

the community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

“Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital,

and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

> >

> > I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >

> > That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >

> > Mr. Marcus Finney

> > mdfinney@...

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

As long as the meds work Louis...

Sent from my iPhone

McGee, EMT-P

> I'm expert in nothing per se. I've got my opinions and passions and they've

gotten me both where I am today and in a heap o' trouble since I was abbot 7 1/2

when I first chased a BRT.

>

> Learning is as it should be a life long thing and at times griping has its

place.

>

> I bet more folks on this list agree than the disagree on many topics and yet

with 1200 or more " lurker " types no one but the usual suspects post.

>

> Another sad statement.

>

> I think it's time to dream. Often I'm young and handsome again in those dreams

as opposed to just old and good looking as I am now. Oh and I'm not near as

unbalanced (physically that is).

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

>

> > I agree one hundred percent. Isn't it interesting that on this list we do

have experts such as you and gene and wes but when we have a real opportunity to

learn from spirited debate it just becomes a free for all with subjective

opinions instead of objective facts. Either way, after twenty four years in the

business I still want to continue to learn from all of you, not get into a gripe

session:

> >

> >

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> > Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> >>>>

> >>>> To: texasems-l

> >>>>

> >>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me

to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> >>>>

> >>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way to get “US†all to slow down. Or

[Guest guest]

As long as the meds work Louis...

Sent from my iPhone

McGee, EMT-P

> I'm expert in nothing per se. I've got my opinions and passions and they've

gotten me both where I am today and in a heap o' trouble since I was abbot 7 1/2

when I first chased a BRT.

>

> Learning is as it should be a life long thing and at times griping has its

place.

>

> I bet more folks on this list agree than the disagree on many topics and yet

with 1200 or more " lurker " types no one but the usual suspects post.

>

> Another sad statement.

>

> I think it's time to dream. Often I'm young and handsome again in those dreams

as opposed to just old and good looking as I am now. Oh and I'm not near as

unbalanced (physically that is).

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

>

> > I agree one hundred percent. Isn't it interesting that on this list we do

have experts such as you and gene and wes but when we have a real opportunity to

learn from spirited debate it just becomes a free for all with subjective

opinions instead of objective facts. Either way, after twenty four years in the

business I still want to continue to learn from all of you, not get into a gripe

session:

> >

> >

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> > Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> >>>>

> >>>> To: texasems-l

> >>>>

> >>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me

to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> >>>>

> >>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way to get “US†all to slow down. Or

[Guest guest]

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> > To: texasems-l

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >

> > So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >

> > I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me

to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> > his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

> >

> > I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the

“Private†ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Private†ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of

the community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

“Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital,

and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

> >

> > I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >

> > That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >

> > Mr. Marcus Finney

> > mdfinney@...

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> > To: texasems-l

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >

> > So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >

> > I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me

to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> > his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way

to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to

crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional

Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me

think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

> >

> > I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the

“Private†ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a

“Private†ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of

the community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public

“Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital,

and “Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

> >

> > I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

> >

> > That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

> >

> > Mr. Marcus Finney

> > mdfinney@...

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I had rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!

GG

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> >>>>

> >>>> To: texasems-l

> >>>>

> >>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me

to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> >>>>

> >>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way to get “US†all to slow down. Or

[Guest guest]

I had rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!

GG

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

> >>>>

> >>>> To: texasems-l

> >>>>

> >>>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me

to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the way I

was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I

arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number

of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of

Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the

“Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other

of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of

response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I

could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was

sitting on the side of the road and " blew

> >>>>

> >>>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way to get “US†all to slow down. Or

[Guest guest]

great minds think alike, Jane...

ck

In a message dated 01/16/11 12:22:36 Central Standard Time,

texas.paramedic@... writes:

Oh wait. Wasn't there a series similar to that already? Wasn't it

called " Trauma " ???? LOL

Jane Dinsmore

To: texasems-l

From: wegandy1938@...

Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:44:01 -0500

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

I don't know, y! I was just working on a script for the pilot of

" POLICE PARAMEDICS. " " A dynamic team of cop/paramedics patrols the dark streets

of Metropolis, busting the bad and curing the rest. Using their ambulance

as a " stealth police car " they are able to catch criminals in the act,

sneak up on them as 'friendly medics,' shoot paralyzing drugs into them and

haul them off to the pokey without a glimmer of resistance. See spectacular

ambulance chases where the defibrillators go flying and oxygen tanks roll.

With Dora Dull as the blonde bombshell " Jugs " who can cause ventricular

tachycardia just by getting out of the ambulance, and Dirk Dick as " Brute, " the

shaved-headed, tattooed, mustachioed muscle medic who never read a book but

can diagnose a hot babe with only his tongue as EMS helicopters roar

overhead. Appearing on a channel near you soon. "

Whaddaya think, y? Want to become a writer for the series?

GG

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>

>> To: texasems-l

>>

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>>

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice

in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led

me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is

taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the

way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that

when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see

the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the

streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are

pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving,

or

any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this

type of response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this

officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him

while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

high to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

Professional Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least

it

makes me think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

bucket-head.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private

†ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

Private†ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of

the

community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “

Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital,

and “

Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>>

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles

per hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize

in my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

all EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>>

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

and slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>>

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

great minds think alike, Jane...

ck

In a message dated 01/16/11 12:22:36 Central Standard Time,

texas.paramedic@... writes:

Oh wait. Wasn't there a series similar to that already? Wasn't it

called " Trauma " ???? LOL

Jane Dinsmore

To: texasems-l

From: wegandy1938@...

Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:44:01 -0500

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

I don't know, y! I was just working on a script for the pilot of

" POLICE PARAMEDICS. " " A dynamic team of cop/paramedics patrols the dark streets

of Metropolis, busting the bad and curing the rest. Using their ambulance

as a " stealth police car " they are able to catch criminals in the act,

sneak up on them as 'friendly medics,' shoot paralyzing drugs into them and

haul them off to the pokey without a glimmer of resistance. See spectacular

ambulance chases where the defibrillators go flying and oxygen tanks roll.

With Dora Dull as the blonde bombshell " Jugs " who can cause ventricular

tachycardia just by getting out of the ambulance, and Dirk Dick as " Brute, " the

shaved-headed, tattooed, mustachioed muscle medic who never read a book but

can diagnose a hot babe with only his tongue as EMS helicopters roar

overhead. Appearing on a channel near you soon. "

Whaddaya think, y? Want to become a writer for the series?

GG

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>

>> To: texasems-l

>>

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>>

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong

in my actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere

to all traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS

recommendation for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed

limit. It is not easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice

in the back of my head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole

situation is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led

me to an entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is

taking advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy†bit, by driving the

way I was driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that

when I arrived to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see

the number of ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the

streets of Houston. Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are

pushing the “Professional Courtesy†envelope by speeding, reckless driving,

or

any other of the offenses that could be imagined, it could only cause this

type of response from an officer of the law. I do not know about this

officer, but I could have been the 3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him

while he was sitting on the side of the road and " blew

>>

>> his doors offâ€. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only

way to get “US†all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on

high to crack down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “

Professional Courtesy.†This is probably the most likely scenario. At least

it

makes me think more of him if this is the case, instead of just being a

bucket-head.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private

†ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “

Private†ambulance service. So, I was a “911†ambulance adding to the

percentage of ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of

the

community breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE†(Private and 911

Ambulances) are all viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “

Ambulancesâ€. Just as there are only “Doctors and Nurses†in a hospital,

and “

Paramedics†on ambulances to the general public.

>>

>>

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles

per hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize

in my EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of

all EMS related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>>

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine,

and slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>>

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

exopthalmos

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf

Of krin135@...

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:51 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

wasn't that show just canceled last year?

ck

In a message dated 01/15/11 21:44:37 Central Standard Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

I don't know, y! I was just working on a script for the pilot of

" POLICE PARAMEDICS. " " A dynamic team of cop/paramedics patrols the dark

streets of Metropolis, busting the bad and curing the rest. Using their

ambulance as a " stealth police car " they are able to catch criminals in the act,

sneak up on them as 'friendly medics,' shoot paralyzing drugs into them and

haul them off to the pokey without a glimmer of resistance. See

spectacular ambulance chases where the defibrillators go flying and oxygen tanks

roll. With Dora Dull as the blonde bombshell " Jugs " who can cause ventricular

tachycardia just by getting out of the ambulance, and Dirk Dick as

" Brute, " the shaved-headed, tattooed, mustachioed muscle medic who never read a

book but can diagnose a hot babe with only his tongue as EMS helicopters

roar overhead. Appearing on a channel near you soon. "

Whaddaya think, y? Want to become a writer for the series?

GG

[Guest guest]

exopthalmos

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf

Of krin135@...

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:51 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

wasn't that show just canceled last year?

ck

In a message dated 01/15/11 21:44:37 Central Standard Time,

wegandy1938@... writes:

I don't know, y! I was just working on a script for the pilot of

" POLICE PARAMEDICS. " " A dynamic team of cop/paramedics patrols the dark

streets of Metropolis, busting the bad and curing the rest. Using their

ambulance as a " stealth police car " they are able to catch criminals in the act,

sneak up on them as 'friendly medics,' shoot paralyzing drugs into them and

haul them off to the pokey without a glimmer of resistance. See

spectacular ambulance chases where the defibrillators go flying and oxygen tanks

roll. With Dora Dull as the blonde bombshell " Jugs " who can cause ventricular

tachycardia just by getting out of the ambulance, and Dirk Dick as

" Brute, " the shaved-headed, tattooed, mustachioed muscle medic who never read a

book but can diagnose a hot babe with only his tongue as EMS helicopters

roar overhead. Appearing on a channel near you soon. "

Whaddaya think, y? Want to become a writer for the series?

GG

[Guest guest]

Oh wait. Wasn't there a series similar to that already? Wasn't it called

" Trauma " ???? LOL

Jane Dinsmore

To: texasems-l

From: wegandy1938@...

Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:44:01 -0500

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

I don't know, y! I was just working on a script for the pilot of " POLICE

PARAMEDICS. " " A dynamic team of cop/paramedics patrols the dark streets of

Metropolis, busting the bad and curing the rest. Using their ambulance as a

" stealth police car " they are able to catch criminals in the act, sneak up on

them as 'friendly medics,' shoot paralyzing drugs into them and haul them off to

the pokey without a glimmer of resistance. See spectacular ambulance chases

where the defibrillators go flying and oxygen tanks roll. With Dora Dull as the

blonde bombshell " Jugs " who can cause ventricular tachycardia just by getting

out of the ambulance, and Dirk Dick as " Brute, " the shaved-headed, tattooed,

mustachioed muscle medic who never read a book but can diagnose a hot babe with

only his tongue as EMS helicopters roar overhead. Appearing on a channel near

you soon. "

Whaddaya think, y? Want to become a writer for the series?

GG

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>

>> To: texasems-l

>>

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>>

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy” bit, by driving the way I was

driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I arrived

to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number of

ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of Houston.

Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the “Professional

Courtesy” envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other of the offenses

that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of response from an

officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I could have been the

3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was sitting on the side of

the road and " blew

>>

>> his doors off”. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way to

get “US” all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to crack

down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional Courtesy.”

This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me think more of

him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private”

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Private”

ambulance service. So, I was a “911” ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE” (Private and 911 Ambulances) are all

viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulances”. Just as there

are only “Doctors and Nurses” in a hospital, and “Paramedics” on ambulances to

the general public.

>>

>>

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>>

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>>

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Oh wait. Wasn't there a series similar to that already? Wasn't it called

" Trauma " ???? LOL

Jane Dinsmore

To: texasems-l

From: wegandy1938@...

Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:44:01 -0500

Subject: Re: Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

I don't know, y! I was just working on a script for the pilot of " POLICE

PARAMEDICS. " " A dynamic team of cop/paramedics patrols the dark streets of

Metropolis, busting the bad and curing the rest. Using their ambulance as a

" stealth police car " they are able to catch criminals in the act, sneak up on

them as 'friendly medics,' shoot paralyzing drugs into them and haul them off to

the pokey without a glimmer of resistance. See spectacular ambulance chases

where the defibrillators go flying and oxygen tanks roll. With Dora Dull as the

blonde bombshell " Jugs " who can cause ventricular tachycardia just by getting

out of the ambulance, and Dirk Dick as " Brute, " the shaved-headed, tattooed,

mustachioed muscle medic who never read a book but can diagnose a hot babe with

only his tongue as EMS helicopters roar overhead. Appearing on a channel near

you soon. "

Whaddaya think, y? Want to become a writer for the series?

GG

Update - Given a Speeding Ticket in an Ambulance

>>

>> To: texasems-l

>>

>> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 3:09 PM

>>

>>

>>

>> So after giving it more thought, probably time to cool off, and think

rationally, and reading all of your posts, and replaying in my mind the EVOC

classes that I have taught in the last 6 years, I realize that I was wrong in my

actions. I can hear myself repeatedly saying that we need to adhere to all

traffic laws while driving non-priority traffic, and even VFIS recommendation

for driving priority traffic is to adhere to the posted speed limit. It is not

easy to admit that I was wrong, even-though that little voice in the back of my

head is screaming, YES you are!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> I guess the biggest thing that I was surprised about with the whole situation

is this question: what happened to Professional Courtesy? This led me to an

entirely new thought. Maybe it is “US " the EMS community that is taking

advantage of this whole “Professional Courtesy” bit, by driving the way I was

driving and have been guilty of driving in the past. I know that when I arrived

to the EMS scene in the Houston Area in 1996, you did not see the number of

ambulances that you see on any given day driving around the streets of Houston.

Even if a small percentage of these ambulances are pushing the “Professional

Courtesy” envelope by speeding, reckless driving, or any other of the offenses

that could be imagined, it could only cause this type of response from an

officer of the law. I do not know about this officer, but I could have been the

3rd or 4th ambulance that had come by him while he was sitting on the side of

the road and " blew

>>

>> his doors off”. He could have had enough, and decided this is the only way to

get “US” all to slow down. Or he may be under directives from on high to crack

down and give all ambulances citations, regardless of “Professional Courtesy.”

This is probably the most likely scenario. At least it makes me think more of

him if this is the case, instead of just being a bucket-head.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have read in a couple of the responses how it is probably the “Private”

ambulances that are causing this problem, but I don’t work for a “Private”

ambulance service. So, I was a “911” ambulance adding to the percentage of

ambulances seen everyday by Law Enforcement and other citizens of the community

breaking the law. The way I look at it “WE” (Private and 911 Ambulances) are all

viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the public “Ambulances”. Just as there

are only “Doctors and Nurses” in a hospital, and “Paramedics” on ambulances to

the general public.

>>

>>

>>

>> I was not acting very professional with my actions of driving 76 miles per

hour with a speed limit of 60 miles per hour. The one thing I emphasize in my

EVOC classes is the fact that speed kills and that the majority of all EMS

related traffic fatalities are secondary to speed alone.

>>

>>

>>

>> That being said, I’ve learned my lesson. I will take DD, pay my fine, and

slow down. I hope to be an example for all EMS professionals.

>>

>>

>>

>> Mr. Marcus Finney

>>

>> mdfinney@...

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

>>

>>