Re: Tempers - was helicopter revalidated

[Guest guest]

and just as important, it's important that we *all* go home at the end of

the day. There is nothing more sad than to lose rescuers through problems

that should have been anticipated and avoided.

ck

In a message dated 01/10/11 20:26:10 Central Standard Time,

phillipsdo@... writes:

Please let's all stay collegial. Remember that at the end of the day: we

all want to go home, we are there for our patients, and though we may take

different routes one may be better on somedays and not on others. There are

more than twenty ways to skin the cat, let's do the research to find the

best ones.

[Guest guest]

While I was never formally on a debating team, I watched enough of them to

know that any good debater MUST know both sides of the problem...

I also watched debates where the teams were required to draw both their

position (for/against) and their spot in the debate (first or second) from a

hat before the debate...made it real easy to tell who had done their

homework.

ck

In a message dated 01/10/11 20:39:17 Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

Well stated Dr. !

One thing that I think we've lost as a society is the ability to see the

other point of view.

A few decades ago I was in a debate club a common exercise was to write

out a position on one side of an argument but then at the last minute the

teacher would make you take the other side in the live debate. If prepared you

did well if not you sunk.

I think that's where I picked up my passion for playing the Devil's

Advocate in the public safety world.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jan 10, 2011, at 20:25, " , DO, FACOEP, FACEP "

phillipsdo@...> wrote:

> I will chime in about Gene and most everyone on this list.

>

> We should all be learning, ALWAYS! I for one learn a great deal whenever

my opinions and biases are challenged. Why do we do what we do when we do

it? Too often I must answer, " because that is how I have always done it " .

That cannot be our answer any longer. If it is, then WE must be the ones to

test the hypothesis.

>

> I routinely challenge my crews to bring me research to back their

opinions. Most recently it was a member saying we should drive code 3 to every

call and to the hospital more than we do. His reasoning is that accidents

happen because someone does something stupid. Ok, very true, but prove to me

it makes a difference. I'm still waiting.

>

> We all need to be respectful. I challenged Gene's perspective by

offering an opposite viewpoint. Playing Devil's advocate. Doesn't mean I'm

right

and he is wrong. Just another view.

>

> Please let's all stay collegial. Remember that at the end of the day: we

all want to go home, we are there for our patients, and though we may take

different routes one may be better on somedays and not on others. There

are more than twenty ways to skin the cat, let's do the research to find the

best ones.

>

> Don

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

While I was never formally on a debating team, I watched enough of them to

know that any good debater MUST know both sides of the problem...

I also watched debates where the teams were required to draw both their

position (for/against) and their spot in the debate (first or second) from a

hat before the debate...made it real easy to tell who had done their

homework.

ck

In a message dated 01/10/11 20:39:17 Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

Well stated Dr. !

One thing that I think we've lost as a society is the ability to see the

other point of view.

A few decades ago I was in a debate club a common exercise was to write

out a position on one side of an argument but then at the last minute the

teacher would make you take the other side in the live debate. If prepared you

did well if not you sunk.

I think that's where I picked up my passion for playing the Devil's

Advocate in the public safety world.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jan 10, 2011, at 20:25, " , DO, FACOEP, FACEP "

phillipsdo@...> wrote:

> I will chime in about Gene and most everyone on this list.

>

> We should all be learning, ALWAYS! I for one learn a great deal whenever

my opinions and biases are challenged. Why do we do what we do when we do

it? Too often I must answer, " because that is how I have always done it " .

That cannot be our answer any longer. If it is, then WE must be the ones to

test the hypothesis.

>

> I routinely challenge my crews to bring me research to back their

opinions. Most recently it was a member saying we should drive code 3 to every

call and to the hospital more than we do. His reasoning is that accidents

happen because someone does something stupid. Ok, very true, but prove to me

it makes a difference. I'm still waiting.

>

> We all need to be respectful. I challenged Gene's perspective by

offering an opposite viewpoint. Playing Devil's advocate. Doesn't mean I'm

right

and he is wrong. Just another view.

>

> Please let's all stay collegial. Remember that at the end of the day: we

all want to go home, we are there for our patients, and though we may take

different routes one may be better on somedays and not on others. There

are more than twenty ways to skin the cat, let's do the research to find the

best ones.

>

> Don

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>