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lithium toxicity

In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:40:42 P.M. Central America Standard Ti,

wes.ogilvie@... writes:

You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder.

She went back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a

manic phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned

to her room and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is

unable to provide much more information about the patient other than the

bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

is completely unresponsive.

What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

who catches the movie reference.

Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

Austin, Texas

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Re: New challenge

lithium toxicity

In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:40:42 P.M. Central America Standard Ti,

wes.ogilvie@... writes:

You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder.

She went back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a

manic phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned

to her room and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is

unable to provide much more information about the patient other than the

bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

is completely unresponsive.

What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

who catches the movie reference.

Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

Austin, Texas

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Re: New challenge

lithium toxicity

In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:40:42 P.M. Central America Standard Ti,

wes.ogilvie@... writes:

You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder.

She went back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a

manic phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned

to her room and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is

unable to provide much more information about the patient other than the

bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

is completely unresponsive.

What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

who catches the movie reference.

Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

Austin, Texas

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lithium toxicity

In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:40:42 P.M. Central America Standard Ti,

wes.ogilvie@... writes:

You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder.

She went back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a

manic phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned

to her room and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is

unable to provide much more information about the patient other than the

bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

is completely unresponsive.

What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

who catches the movie reference.

Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

Austin, Texas

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No but you are in the neighborhood.

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> lithium toxicity

>

>

> In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:40:42 P.M. Central America Standard Ti,

> wes.ogilvie@... writes:

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

> Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

> are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

> female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder.

> She went back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a

> manic phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned

> to her room and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is

> unable to provide much more information about the patient other than the

> bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

> is completely unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

> who catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

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No but you are in the neighborhood.

Wes

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> lithium toxicity

>

>

> In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:40:42 P.M. Central America Standard Ti,

> wes.ogilvie@... writes:

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

> Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

> are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

> female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder.

> She went back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a

> manic phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned

> to her room and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is

> unable to provide much more information about the patient other than the

> bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

> is completely unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

> who catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

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No but you are in the neighborhood.

Wes

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> lithium toxicity

>

>

> In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:40:42 P.M. Central America Standard Ti,

> wes.ogilvie@... writes:

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

> Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

> are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

> female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder.

> She went back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a

> manic phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned

> to her room and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is

> unable to provide much more information about the patient other than the

> bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

> is completely unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

> who catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

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Nice differential diagnosis sir!

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> Re: New challenge

>

> lithium toxicity

>

>

> In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:40:42 P.M. Central America Standard Ti,

> wes.ogilvie@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

> Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

> are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

> female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder.

> She went back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a

> manic phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned

> to her room and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is

> unable to provide much more information about the patient other than the

> bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

> is completely unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

> who catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

>

>

>

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Not gonna hazard a guess on field diagnosis, but if she is unresponsive I would

probably initiate CPR first. My guess for movie reference is " Shutter Island "

Just my 2 cents' worth.

Trousdale, EMT-I

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are

greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female

patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back

to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase

lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and

has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much

more information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon

patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely

unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

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Not gonna hazard a guess on field diagnosis, but if she is unresponsive I would

probably initiate CPR first. My guess for movie reference is " Shutter Island "

Just my 2 cents' worth.

Trousdale, EMT-I

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are

greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female

patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back

to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase

lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and

has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much

more information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon

patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely

unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

>

> Sent from my iPad

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Not gonna hazard a guess on field diagnosis, but if she is unresponsive I would

probably initiate CPR first. My guess for movie reference is " Shutter Island "

Just my 2 cents' worth.

Trousdale, EMT-I

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are

greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female

patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back

to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase

lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and

has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much

more information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon

patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely

unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

>

> Sent from my iPad

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I wouldn't start CPR just because the patient is unresponsive. A patient can be

unresponsive with a pulse present.

> >

> > You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are

greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female

patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back

to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase

lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and

has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much

more information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon

patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely

unresponsive.

> >

> > What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

catches the movie reference.

> >

> > Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> > Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> > Austin, Texas

> >

> >

> > Sent from my iPad

> >

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Oh my God, you're the guy! You know how you always hear stories from " a guy who

knows a guy who's brother's sister is a medic... " . I've heard this story for

years and with variations including varying locations and patient descriptions.

In fact, seems like they used this scenario in an episode of St. Elsewhere or ER

or something. Hope you got royalties!

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> Without checking a pulse??? Which by the way is present.

>

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> On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:45, trousdale_david trousdale_david@...

> >;

> wrote:

>

> > Not gonna hazard a guess on field diagnosis, but if she is

> unresponsive I would probably initiate CPR first. My guess for movie

> reference is " Shutter Island "

> > Just my 2 cents' worth.

> >

> > Trousdale, EMT-I

> >

> >

> > >

> > > You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic

> Institute for the Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival,

> you and your partner are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you

> that they have a 47 year old female patient who is receiving inpatient

> therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her room after a

> therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

> several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and

> has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to

> provide much more information about the patient other than the bipolar

> diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

> is completely unresponsive.

> > >

> > > What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to

> anyone who catches the movie reference.

> > >

> > > Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> > > Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> > > Austin, Texas

> > >

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPad

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Oh my God, you're the guy! You know how you always hear stories from " a guy who

knows a guy who's brother's sister is a medic... " . I've heard this story for

years and with variations including varying locations and patient descriptions.

In fact, seems like they used this scenario in an episode of St. Elsewhere or ER

or something. Hope you got royalties!

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Re: Re: New challenge

>

> Without checking a pulse??? Which by the way is present.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:45, trousdale_david trousdale_david@...

> >;

> wrote:

>

> > Not gonna hazard a guess on field diagnosis, but if she is

> unresponsive I would probably initiate CPR first. My guess for movie

> reference is " Shutter Island "

> > Just my 2 cents' worth.

> >

> > Trousdale, EMT-I

> >

> >

> > >

> > > You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic

> Institute for the Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival,

> you and your partner are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you

> that they have a 47 year old female patient who is receiving inpatient

> therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her room after a

> therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

> several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and

> has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to

> provide much more information about the patient other than the bipolar

> diagnosis. Upon patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who

> is completely unresponsive.

> > >

> > > What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to

> anyone who catches the movie reference.

> > >

> > > Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> > > Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> > > Austin, Texas

> > >

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPad

> > >

> >

> >

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On Friday, August 6, 2010 22:49, kelley@... said:

> Oh my God, you're the guy! You know how you always hear stories from " a guy

who

> knows a guy who's brother's sister is a medic... " . I've heard this story for

years

> and with variations including varying locations and patient descriptions. In

fact,

> seems like they used this scenario in an episode of St. Elsewhere or ER or

> something. Hope you got royalties!

LOL! It happened to me only once, back in 1979, long before St Elsewhere

(remember when Howie Mandel had hair?). 's description of his incident

sounded almost exactly like mine, which was also in-hospital. We actually

revived him several times, but he finally expired after running about a dozen

codes on him.

Rob

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On Friday, August 6, 2010 22:49, kelley@... said:

> Oh my God, you're the guy! You know how you always hear stories from " a guy

who

> knows a guy who's brother's sister is a medic... " . I've heard this story for

years

> and with variations including varying locations and patient descriptions. In

fact,

> seems like they used this scenario in an episode of St. Elsewhere or ER or

> something. Hope you got royalties!

LOL! It happened to me only once, back in 1979, long before St Elsewhere

(remember when Howie Mandel had hair?). 's description of his incident

sounded almost exactly like mine, which was also in-hospital. We actually

revived him several times, but he finally expired after running about a dozen

codes on him.

Rob

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The pt. is not at SHUTTER ISLAND is she?

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Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 2:40:04 PM

Subject: New challenge

 

You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the Very

Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are greeted

by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female patient

who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her

room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and has,

according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much more

information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient

contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely unresponsive.

What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

catches the movie reference.

Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

Austin, Texas

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The pt. is not at SHUTTER ISLAND is she?

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Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 2:40:04 PM

Subject: New challenge

 

You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the Very

Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are greeted

by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female patient

who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her

room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and has,

according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much more

information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient

contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely unresponsive.

What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

catches the movie reference.

Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

Austin, Texas

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The pt. is not at SHUTTER ISLAND is she?

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To: texasems-l ; Paramedicine

Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 2:40:04 PM

Subject: New challenge

 

You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the Very

Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are greeted

by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female patient

who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her

room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and has,

according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much more

information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient

contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely unresponsive.

What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

catches the movie reference.

Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

Austin, Texas

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> The pt. is not at SHUTTER ISLAND is she?

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: texasems-l ; Paramedicine

> Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 2:40:04 PM

> Subject: New challenge

>

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

Very

> Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are

greeted

> by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female

patient

> who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her

> room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

> several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and has,

> according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much more

> information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient

> contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

> catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

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Fast reply, Wes! Thanks! I'll keep trying.............................

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Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 11:00:31 AM

Subject: Re: New challenge

 

No.

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> The pt. is not at SHUTTER ISLAND is she?

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: texasems-l ; Paramedicine

> Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 2:40:04 PM

> Subject: New challenge

>

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

>Very

>

> Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are

greeted

>

> by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female

patient

>

> who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her

> room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

> several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and has,

> according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much more

> information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient

> contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

> catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

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Fast reply, Wes! Thanks! I'll keep trying.............................

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To: " texasems-l " texasems-l >

Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 11:00:31 AM

Subject: Re: New challenge

 

No.

Sent from my iPad

> The pt. is not at SHUTTER ISLAND is she?

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: texasems-l ; Paramedicine

> Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 2:40:04 PM

> Subject: New challenge

>

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

>Very

>

> Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are

greeted

>

> by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female

patient

>

> who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her

> room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

> several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and has,

> according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much more

> information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient

> contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

> catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

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Fast reply, Wes! Thanks! I'll keep trying.............................

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To: " texasems-l " texasems-l >

Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 11:00:31 AM

Subject: Re: New challenge

 

No.

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> The pt. is not at SHUTTER ISLAND is she?

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: texasems-l ; Paramedicine

> Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 2:40:04 PM

> Subject: New challenge

>

>

> You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for the

>Very

>

> Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner are

greeted

>

> by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old female

patient

>

> who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went back to her

> room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic phase lasting

> several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room and has,

> according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide much more

> information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon patient

> contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely unresponsive.

>

> What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone who

> catches the movie reference.

>

> Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> Austin, Texas

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

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I'd like ABC's, vitals, Skin temp/color/appearance (rashes, etc) and a temp if

the skin temp feels out of whack, a cardiac strip, preferably a 12 lead, a blood

glucose and O2 sat, meds/treatments and when they were last administered,

allergies, last meal, Ask about recent trauma, does it look like she's fallen?

was this episode witnessed? PMH/Past surgical HX and past psych HX just incase

they've left something out for $50 .

Then I'd like a complete physical exam....most curious about pupils. I'd also be

curious about lung sounds and heart sounds/tones especially if there is

something funky on the ECG.

Personally I'm thinking OD but it could be metabolic (thyroid, diabetes, an

electrolyte imbalance), drug interaction, hyperventilation, cardiac, Neurologic

(TIA, CVA, Seizure, a Brain tumor, a bleed), even an infection is possible. And

without more information I can't narrow that list much.

As far as treatment plan....well I'll wait for more information to do much more

than add o2 to my above requests...

By the way what is it with people assuming that because someone is unresponsive

they aren't breathing and don't have a pulse. I see that way too much these

days.

> > >

> > > You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for

the Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went

back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic

phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room

and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide

much more information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon

patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely

unresponsive.

> > >

> > > What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

who catches the movie reference.

> > >

> > > Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> > > Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> > > Austin, Texas

> > >

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPad

> > >

> >

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I'd like ABC's, vitals, Skin temp/color/appearance (rashes, etc) and a temp if

the skin temp feels out of whack, a cardiac strip, preferably a 12 lead, a blood

glucose and O2 sat, meds/treatments and when they were last administered,

allergies, last meal, Ask about recent trauma, does it look like she's fallen?

was this episode witnessed? PMH/Past surgical HX and past psych HX just incase

they've left something out for $50 .

Then I'd like a complete physical exam....most curious about pupils. I'd also be

curious about lung sounds and heart sounds/tones especially if there is

something funky on the ECG.

Personally I'm thinking OD but it could be metabolic (thyroid, diabetes, an

electrolyte imbalance), drug interaction, hyperventilation, cardiac, Neurologic

(TIA, CVA, Seizure, a Brain tumor, a bleed), even an infection is possible. And

without more information I can't narrow that list much.

As far as treatment plan....well I'll wait for more information to do much more

than add o2 to my above requests...

By the way what is it with people assuming that because someone is unresponsive

they aren't breathing and don't have a pulse. I see that way too much these

days.

> > >

> > > You and your partner have been sent to the Psychoneurotic Institute for

the Very Very Nervous on an unknown call. Upon arrival, you and your partner

are greeted by the charge nurse who informs you that they have a 47 year old

female patient who is receiving inpatient therapy for bipolar disorder. She went

back to her room after a therapy session. The patient normally has a manic

phase lasting several days, but during her manic phase, she returned to her room

and has, according to the staff, " passed out. " The nurse is unable to provide

much more information about the patient other than the bipolar diagnosis. Upon

patient contact, you observe a 47 year old female who is completely

unresponsive.

> > >

> > > What is your treatment plan and field diagnosis? Bonus points to anyone

who catches the movie reference.

> > >

> > > Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> > > Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> > > Austin, Texas

> > >

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPad

> > >

> >

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