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that being said, at least American forces taught that the combat commander

had the authority to override the medical commander and order full

camouflage of field medical facilities, including ambulances and medics.

and in the Pacific Theater, Korea and VN, the field medics often 'lost'

their Red Cross brassards during field ops, as those OPFORs were known to

target folks wearing the brassards, as well as obvious leaders and radio men.

(and this was in conflicts with countries which *were* signatories of the

various Geneva Conventions).

ck

In a message dated 01/20/11 20:38:10 Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

If you apply the Geneva Convention and the Laws of Armed Conflict your a

civil nation or state. Terrorists aren't that at all.

Never have been never will be.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> Cowards with no conscious. My Grandfather told me that in WWII, BOTH

sides, respected the medical insignia on camps and vehicles, and would

withhold fire, out of respect for the wounded. The enemy we face today is like

nothing before, they have NO honor, as WE know it.

> When I first joined the " Chaos " camp at TRF, I brought an Ambulance. I

had it parked near the back fence. No-one knew who it belonged to, and it

got some people fretting. This was shortly after 9-11. Authorities had asked

people to be aware of Emergency vehicles that seemed " out of place " .

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> Makes me shake my head.....but does not surprise me.

> Coug.

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>> Suicide bombers have used an ambulance to attack a police compound in

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>> central Iraq, killing up to 12 people, reports say.

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>> Many more were wounded in the attack in Baquba - the second targeting

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>> Iraq's security forces in two days.

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>> On Tuesday, a suicide bomber killed some 60 people at a police

recruitment

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>> centre in Tikrit, the hometown of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

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>> Violence in Iraq has ebbed in recent years, but deadly attacks persist.

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>> Both Baquba - 65km (40 miles) north-east of Baghdad - and Tikrit are

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>> within what is known as the Sunni Triangle, a stronghold of Iraq's

insurgency.

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>> In a separate attack on Wednesday, a suicide bomber targeted Shia

pilgrims

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>> travelling on foot from Baghdad to the holy city of Karbala, killing at

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>> least two people and injuring 15.

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>> 'Bodies buried'

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>> Continue reading the main story Timeline: Recent Iraq attacks 25 August

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>> 2010: String of attacks targeting Iraqi security forces and checkpoints

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>> across the country kill more than 5019 September 2010: Series of bomb

attacks in

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>> two neighbourhoods of Baghdad kill more than 2031 October 2010: Botched

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>> hostage-taking at Our Lady of Salvation Syriac Catholic church in

Baghdad

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>> kills 502 November 2010: Series of Baghdad bomb attacks kill 70

people18

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>> January 2011: Suicide bomb attack on Tikrit police recruitment centre

kills at

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>> Most of those killed in Wednesday morning's Baquba attack were police,

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>> officials said.

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>> Two attackers were thought to have been involved. One stepped out of

the

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>> ambulance and opened fire on guards at the entrance of the city's

special

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>> security police centre before the vehicle was driven into the compound

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>> detonated, reports said.

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>> More than 60 injuries were reported, and more people are said to be

buried

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>> under rubble after the explosion caused a building to collapse.

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>> " There are more bodies buried in the ruins, " a spokeswoman for Diyala's

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>> governor told Reuters news agency.

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>> Iraqi police and army recruiting centres are often targeted by suicide

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>> Anti-Shia attacks had been feared ahead of next week's commemoration of

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>> Arbain - a 40-day mourning period observed by Shia Muslims for Imam

Hussein,

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>> a grandson of the Prophet Muhammad killed at the battle of Karbala in

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>> Security has been stepped up ahead of the climax of the Shia pilgrimage

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>> next week, when hundreds of thousands of pilgrims are expected to

converge on

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>> Karbala.

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>> Overall violence in Iraq has fallen sharply since the height of the

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>> sectarian killings of 2006-07, but shootings and bombings remain a

daily

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>> US forces formally ended their combat operations last August, ahead of

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>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12223573

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That's why they took the red crosses with white backgrounds off the side doors

and noses of the Hueys 'in theater'.

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Re: Suicide bombers have used an ambulance to attack a

police in...

that being said, at least American forces taught that the combat commander

had the authority to override the medical commander and order full

camouflage of field medical facilities, including ambulances and medics.

and in the Pacific Theater, Korea and VN, the field medics often 'lost'

their Red Cross brassards during field ops, as those OPFORs were known to

target folks wearing the brassards, as well as obvious leaders and radio men.

(and this was in conflicts with countries which *were* signatories of the

various Geneva Conventions).

ck

In a message dated 01/20/11 20:38:10 Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

If you apply the Geneva Convention and the Laws of Armed Conflict your a

civil nation or state. Terrorists aren't that at all.

Never have been never will be.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> Cowards with no conscious. My Grandfather told me that in WWII, BOTH

sides, respected the medical insignia on camps and vehicles, and would

withhold fire, out of respect for the wounded. The enemy we face today is like

nothing before, they have NO honor, as WE know it.

> When I first joined the " Chaos " camp at TRF, I brought an Ambulance. I

had it parked near the back fence. No-one knew who it belonged to, and it

got some people fretting. This was shortly after 9-11. Authorities had asked

people to be aware of Emergency vehicles that seemed " out of place " .

>

> Makes me shake my head.....but does not surprise me.

> Coug.

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>> Suicide bombers have used an ambulance to attack a police compound in

>

>> central Iraq, killing up to 12 people, reports say.

>

>>

>

>> Many more were wounded in the attack in Baquba - the second targeting

>

>> Iraq's security forces in two days.

>

>>

>

>> On Tuesday, a suicide bomber killed some 60 people at a police

recruitment

>

>> centre in Tikrit, the hometown of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

>

>>

>

>> Violence in Iraq has ebbed in recent years, but deadly attacks persist.

>

>>

>

>> Both Baquba - 65km (40 miles) north-east of Baghdad - and Tikrit are

>

>> within what is known as the Sunni Triangle, a stronghold of Iraq's

insurgency.

>

>>

>

>> In a separate attack on Wednesday, a suicide bomber targeted Shia

pilgrims

>

>> travelling on foot from Baghdad to the holy city of Karbala, killing at

>

>> least two people and injuring 15.

>

>>

>

>> 'Bodies buried'

>

>>

>

>> Continue reading the main story Timeline: Recent Iraq attacks 25 August

>

>> 2010: String of attacks targeting Iraqi security forces and checkpoints

>

>> across the country kill more than 5019 September 2010: Series of bomb

attacks in

>

>> two neighbourhoods of Baghdad kill more than 2031 October 2010: Botched

>

>> hostage-taking at Our Lady of Salvation Syriac Catholic church in

Baghdad

>

>> kills 502 November 2010: Series of Baghdad bomb attacks kill 70

people18

>

>> January 2011: Suicide bomb attack on Tikrit police recruitment centre

kills at

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>> least 60

>

>> Most of those killed in Wednesday morning's Baquba attack were police,

>

>> officials said.

>

>>

>

>> Two attackers were thought to have been involved. One stepped out of

the

>

>> ambulance and opened fire on guards at the entrance of the city's

special

>

>> security police centre before the vehicle was driven into the compound

and

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>> detonated, reports said.

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>>

>

>> More than 60 injuries were reported, and more people are said to be

buried

>

>> under rubble after the explosion caused a building to collapse.

>

>>

>

>> " There are more bodies buried in the ruins, " a spokeswoman for Diyala's

>

>> governor told Reuters news agency.

>

>>

>

>> Iraqi police and army recruiting centres are often targeted by suicide

>

>> bombers.

>

>>

>

>> Anti-Shia attacks had been feared ahead of next week's commemoration of

>

>> Arbain - a 40-day mourning period observed by Shia Muslims for Imam

Hussein,

>

>> a grandson of the Prophet Muhammad killed at the battle of Karbala in

the

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>> 7th Century.

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>

>> Security has been stepped up ahead of the climax of the Shia pilgrimage

>

>> next week, when hundreds of thousands of pilgrims are expected to

converge on

>

>> Karbala.

>

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>

>> Overall violence in Iraq has fallen sharply since the height of the

>

>> sectarian killings of 2006-07, but shootings and bombings remain a

daily

>

>> occurrence.

>

>>

>

>> US forces formally ended their combat operations last August, ahead of

a

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>> planned full withdrawal later this year.

>

>>

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>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12223573

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>> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

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>> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

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>> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection

Consultant

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>> " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

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>> discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

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>> The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author

and

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>> organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated

with unless I

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only

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>> materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the

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My cop buddy calls people's stupidity job security.

Kirk

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In a message dated 1/21/2011 01:52:41 Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

If stupidity was a crime we'd all go to jail a rime or two.

Besides if we had no stupid folks we'd have 35% or less calls (made up #)

and you would rarely hear " we had a guy/gal that... " at shift change.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> Ehhhhhh,,,, not too sure about that. I know you are halfway joking, but

also know your passion behind that.....I was walking out of a convenience

store one day, and three men were walking towards me. One veered off to the

left, and got on the pay phone, the other veered to the right and leaned

against the corner of the building, the third....middle.... went past me into

the store.

> I left,....(South Post Oak/Gasmer/S. Willow) But I called 911 to report

the suspicious activity....never knew the outcome, but it sure looked like

a set up for Armed Robbery to me.

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> If I was wrong about the situation, should I be charged 250.00? Wouldn't

that deter people from calling in possible criminal activity, and wouldn't

that be in the favor of the " Bad Guys " ?

> No......I was actually pleased that people at the " Chaos " camp were

AWARE that there was an Emergency Vehicle out of place. I made friends with

them that night, and still enjoy their company toady, knowing that we look out

for each other.

> I do concur with all your other examples, but unfortunately, TOTAL

stupidity,....is not necessarily a violation of the law.

> Coug.

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> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

> You can keep the " CHANGE. "

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> Subject: Re: Suicide bombers have used an ambulance to

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>> When I first joined the " Chaos " camp at TRF, I brought an Ambulance. I

had it

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>> parked near the back fence. No-one knew who it belonged to, and it got

some people

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>> fretting. This was shortly after 9-11. Authorities had asked people to

be aware of

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> It's actually scary how often citizens call 911 to report ambulances or

police cars parked in various locations. Most of the time, it's a marked

patrol car with a uniformed officer in it, running radar or writing a

report, yet morons think that is suspicious. Just like the idiots who pass an

MVA with two ambulances, four fire apparatus, four police cars, and a

helicopter on scene, and call 911 to report the wreck. Just as bad are

abandoned

vehicles parked on a shoulder, with a week's worth of red stickers on the

windows, that people call in as an MVA with people trapped every half hour.

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around and get a voucher from responding authorities, the charge is removed.

If you don't, or if they show up and say it's bogus, then your next phone

bill is going to hurt!

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