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This is an old message from march. So the process of fibrocystic

breasts is the same as fibroids of the uterus?

Lana replied:

Well, I kind of THINK so. They're just liquid filled cysts. I

don't think it matters where they are, but I'm FAR from an expert!

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I am also far from being an expert, but tend to agree with Lana on

this.

What I was taught when taking Lymphatic Drainage Therapy is that LDT

can be an effective treatment for fibrotic cysts because it helps to

reduce or eliminate the fluid build-up in the cysts. There are also

some additional " scar release " techniques in LDT that can be used to

help " break up " or " realign " the fibrotic tissue after the fluid in

the cysts has been reduced or eliminated using the basic lymph

drainage technique.

The only reason the " process " would be different would be if there

is a significant difference in the type of tissue where the cysts

are forming, breast versus uterine (and there is a difference in

tissue structure). The main difference in treatment in using LDT

that I can see is depth of the cysts in the body. Breast tissue

work mostly involves the superficial lymph nodes, basically right

beneath the skin. The work is therefore done very shallowly, in

essence little more than skin deep. There are also deeper nodes

beneath the breast tissue, back against outer chest wall that are

also addressed, but the bulk of the work is done superficially

because that is where the cysts are.

I would need to check my manuals to determine if the uterine lymph

nodes are part of the superficial lymphatic system or the deeper

abdominal system, or both. I just don't know at the moment off the

top of my head. If superficial, the work would also be done very

lightly. If deeper, there would be a slight increase in pressure

applied, but still not a heavy, deep pressure.

I have only had occasion to do this work twice, and then added my

own variation to it. After detecting the cysts in the breast tissue

with light palpation, I first used a variation of the polarity X

technique to run energy through the cyst. I could definitely sense

a " softening " of the cyst while doing it. After first treating the

cysts energetically, I then did the lymph drainage work. The tissue

was then reassessed after treatment to note any differences. I can

say that there were palpable differences, before and afer.

Did the work eliminate the cysts? We don't know yet. One of the

ladies will be having a mammogram in August and the other in

October. We should have a pretty good idea at that time if the

treatments were successful. Based on my previous experiences using

energy, I am hopeful, but only time will tell.

As for the uterine cyst question - can't comment from personal

experience because I have not had occassion to do any treatment work

for uterine cysts so far. My supposition is that if it would work

for the one, it should work for the other, but I can't say this is

true from personal experience.

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I also am not an expert but agree with Jill that uterine fibroids are not

fluid filled *cysts* but a solid mass that grow outward.

There are also solid fibroid tumors that grow in the breasts as so fluid

filled *cysts*.

Generally the term cyst is a catch all and is not used in the exact and

correct way when speaking in general terms.

When in doubt (heck, even when you think you know.) always ask the questions

" tumor? " or " fluid filled cyst? "

Question Re fibroids in breast and/or uterus

This is an old message from march. So the process of fibrocystic

breasts is the same as fibroids of the uterus?

Lana replied:

Well, I kind of THINK so. They're just liquid filled cysts. I

don't think it matters where they are, but I'm FAR from an expert!

-------------

I am also far from being an expert, but tend to agree with Lana on

this.

What I was taught when taking Lymphatic Drainage Therapy is that LDT

can be an effective treatment for fibrotic cysts because it helps to

reduce or eliminate the fluid build-up in the cysts. There are also

some additional " scar release " techniques in LDT that can be used to

help " break up " or " realign " the fibrotic tissue after the fluid in

the cysts has been reduced or eliminated using the basic lymph

drainage technique.

The only reason the " process " would be different would be if there

is a significant difference in the type of tissue where the cysts

are forming, breast versus uterine (and there is a difference in

tissue structure). The main difference in treatment in using LDT

that I can see is depth of the cysts in the body. Breast tissue

work mostly involves the superficial lymph nodes, basically right

beneath the skin. The work is therefore done very shallowly, in

essence little more than skin deep. There are also deeper nodes

beneath the breast tissue, back against outer chest wall that are

also addressed, but the bulk of the work is done superficially

because that is where the cysts are.

I would need to check my manuals to determine if the uterine lymph

nodes are part of the superficial lymphatic system or the deeper

abdominal system, or both. I just don't know at the moment off the

top of my head. If superficial, the work would also be done very

lightly. If deeper, there would be a slight increase in pressure

applied, but still not a heavy, deep pressure.

I have only had occasion to do this work twice, and then added my

own variation to it. After detecting the cysts in the breast tissue

with light palpation, I first used a variation of the polarity X

technique to run energy through the cyst. I could definitely sense

a " softening " of the cyst while doing it. After first treating the

cysts energetically, I then did the lymph drainage work. The tissue

was then reassessed after treatment to note any differences. I can

say that there were palpable differences, before and afer.

Did the work eliminate the cysts? We don't know yet. One of the

ladies will be having a mammogram in August and the other in

October. We should have a pretty good idea at that time if the

treatments were successful. Based on my previous experiences using

energy, I am hopeful, but only time will tell.

As for the uterine cyst question - can't comment from personal

experience because I have not had occassion to do any treatment work

for uterine cysts so far. My supposition is that if it would work

for the one, it should work for the other, but I can't say this is

true from personal experience.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca

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Well I just learned something too! Thanks Deb and Jill!!! :-)

Love Lana 0:-)

Question Re fibroids in breast and/or uterus

This is an old message from march. So the process of fibrocystic

breasts is the same as fibroids of the uterus?

Lana replied:

Well, I kind of THINK so. They're just liquid filled cysts. I

don't think it matters where they are, but I'm FAR from an expert!

-------------

I am also far from being an expert, but tend to agree with Lana on

this.

What I was taught when taking Lymphatic Drainage Therapy is that LDT

can be an effective treatment for fibrotic cysts because it helps to

reduce or eliminate the fluid build-up in the cysts. There are also

some additional " scar release " techniques in LDT that can be used to

help " break up " or " realign " the fibrotic tissue after the fluid in

the cysts has been reduced or eliminated using the basic lymph

drainage technique.

The only reason the " process " would be different would be if there

is a significant difference in the type of tissue where the cysts

are forming, breast versus uterine (and there is a difference in

tissue structure). The main difference in treatment in using LDT

that I can see is depth of the cysts in the body. Breast tissue

work mostly involves the superficial lymph nodes, basically right

beneath the skin. The work is therefore done very shallowly, in

essence little more than skin deep. There are also deeper nodes

beneath the breast tissue, back against outer chest wall that are

also addressed, but the bulk of the work is done superficially

because that is where the cysts are.

I would need to check my manuals to determine if the uterine lymph

nodes are part of the superficial lymphatic system or the deeper

abdominal system, or both. I just don't know at the moment off the

top of my head. If superficial, the work would also be done very

lightly. If deeper, there would be a slight increase in pressure

applied, but still not a heavy, deep pressure.

I have only had occasion to do this work twice, and then added my

own variation to it. After detecting the cysts in the breast tissue

with light palpation, I first used a variation of the polarity X

technique to run energy through the cyst. I could definitely sense

a " softening " of the cyst while doing it. After first treating the

cysts energetically, I then did the lymph drainage work. The tissue

was then reassessed after treatment to note any differences. I can

say that there were palpable differences, before and afer.

Did the work eliminate the cysts? We don't know yet. One of the

ladies will be having a mammogram in August and the other in

October. We should have a pretty good idea at that time if the

treatments were successful. Based on my previous experiences using

energy, I am hopeful, but only time will tell.

As for the uterine cyst question - can't comment from personal

experience because I have not had occassion to do any treatment work

for uterine cysts so far. My supposition is that if it would work

for the one, it should work for the other, but I can't say this is

true from personal experience.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca

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Well I just learned something too! Thanks Deb and Jill!!! :-)

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My turn to say " ditto. "

Your answers made me wonder something else, though. Specifically, I

am wondering how close the tissue structure is between the smooth

muscle fibrotic " tumor " and the adhesive tissue involved with

trigger points.

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I bet there are some images on the net about this.

If nothing else, microscopic slides might give you a clue.

Debbi

Re: Question Re fibroids in breast and/or uterus

Well I just learned something too! Thanks Deb and Jill!!! :-)

-------------

My turn to say " ditto. "

Your answers made me wonder something else, though. Specifically, I

am wondering how close the tissue structure is between the smooth

muscle fibrotic " tumor " and the adhesive tissue involved with

trigger points.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca

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