Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 This is an old message from march. So the process of fibrocystic breasts is the same as fibroids of the uterus? Lana replied: Well, I kind of THINK so. They're just liquid filled cysts. I don't think it matters where they are, but I'm FAR from an expert! ------------- I am also far from being an expert, but tend to agree with Lana on this. What I was taught when taking Lymphatic Drainage Therapy is that LDT can be an effective treatment for fibrotic cysts because it helps to reduce or eliminate the fluid build-up in the cysts. There are also some additional " scar release " techniques in LDT that can be used to help " break up " or " realign " the fibrotic tissue after the fluid in the cysts has been reduced or eliminated using the basic lymph drainage technique. The only reason the " process " would be different would be if there is a significant difference in the type of tissue where the cysts are forming, breast versus uterine (and there is a difference in tissue structure). The main difference in treatment in using LDT that I can see is depth of the cysts in the body. Breast tissue work mostly involves the superficial lymph nodes, basically right beneath the skin. The work is therefore done very shallowly, in essence little more than skin deep. There are also deeper nodes beneath the breast tissue, back against outer chest wall that are also addressed, but the bulk of the work is done superficially because that is where the cysts are. I would need to check my manuals to determine if the uterine lymph nodes are part of the superficial lymphatic system or the deeper abdominal system, or both. I just don't know at the moment off the top of my head. If superficial, the work would also be done very lightly. If deeper, there would be a slight increase in pressure applied, but still not a heavy, deep pressure. I have only had occasion to do this work twice, and then added my own variation to it. After detecting the cysts in the breast tissue with light palpation, I first used a variation of the polarity X technique to run energy through the cyst. I could definitely sense a " softening " of the cyst while doing it. After first treating the cysts energetically, I then did the lymph drainage work. The tissue was then reassessed after treatment to note any differences. I can say that there were palpable differences, before and afer. Did the work eliminate the cysts? We don't know yet. One of the ladies will be having a mammogram in August and the other in October. We should have a pretty good idea at that time if the treatments were successful. Based on my previous experiences using energy, I am hopeful, but only time will tell. As for the uterine cyst question - can't comment from personal experience because I have not had occassion to do any treatment work for uterine cysts so far. My supposition is that if it would work for the one, it should work for the other, but I can't say this is true from personal experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 I also am not an expert but agree with Jill that uterine fibroids are not fluid filled *cysts* but a solid mass that grow outward. There are also solid fibroid tumors that grow in the breasts as so fluid filled *cysts*. Generally the term cyst is a catch all and is not used in the exact and correct way when speaking in general terms. When in doubt (heck, even when you think you know.) always ask the questions " tumor? " or " fluid filled cyst? " Question Re fibroids in breast and/or uterus This is an old message from march. So the process of fibrocystic breasts is the same as fibroids of the uterus? Lana replied: Well, I kind of THINK so. They're just liquid filled cysts. I don't think it matters where they are, but I'm FAR from an expert! ------------- I am also far from being an expert, but tend to agree with Lana on this. What I was taught when taking Lymphatic Drainage Therapy is that LDT can be an effective treatment for fibrotic cysts because it helps to reduce or eliminate the fluid build-up in the cysts. There are also some additional " scar release " techniques in LDT that can be used to help " break up " or " realign " the fibrotic tissue after the fluid in the cysts has been reduced or eliminated using the basic lymph drainage technique. The only reason the " process " would be different would be if there is a significant difference in the type of tissue where the cysts are forming, breast versus uterine (and there is a difference in tissue structure). The main difference in treatment in using LDT that I can see is depth of the cysts in the body. Breast tissue work mostly involves the superficial lymph nodes, basically right beneath the skin. The work is therefore done very shallowly, in essence little more than skin deep. There are also deeper nodes beneath the breast tissue, back against outer chest wall that are also addressed, but the bulk of the work is done superficially because that is where the cysts are. I would need to check my manuals to determine if the uterine lymph nodes are part of the superficial lymphatic system or the deeper abdominal system, or both. I just don't know at the moment off the top of my head. If superficial, the work would also be done very lightly. If deeper, there would be a slight increase in pressure applied, but still not a heavy, deep pressure. I have only had occasion to do this work twice, and then added my own variation to it. After detecting the cysts in the breast tissue with light palpation, I first used a variation of the polarity X technique to run energy through the cyst. I could definitely sense a " softening " of the cyst while doing it. After first treating the cysts energetically, I then did the lymph drainage work. The tissue was then reassessed after treatment to note any differences. I can say that there were palpable differences, before and afer. Did the work eliminate the cysts? We don't know yet. One of the ladies will be having a mammogram in August and the other in October. We should have a pretty good idea at that time if the treatments were successful. Based on my previous experiences using energy, I am hopeful, but only time will tell. As for the uterine cyst question - can't comment from personal experience because I have not had occassion to do any treatment work for uterine cysts so far. My supposition is that if it would work for the one, it should work for the other, but I can't say this is true from personal experience. To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 Well I just learned something too! Thanks Deb and Jill!!! :-) Love Lana 0:-) Question Re fibroids in breast and/or uterus This is an old message from march. So the process of fibrocystic breasts is the same as fibroids of the uterus? Lana replied: Well, I kind of THINK so. They're just liquid filled cysts. I don't think it matters where they are, but I'm FAR from an expert! ------------- I am also far from being an expert, but tend to agree with Lana on this. What I was taught when taking Lymphatic Drainage Therapy is that LDT can be an effective treatment for fibrotic cysts because it helps to reduce or eliminate the fluid build-up in the cysts. There are also some additional " scar release " techniques in LDT that can be used to help " break up " or " realign " the fibrotic tissue after the fluid in the cysts has been reduced or eliminated using the basic lymph drainage technique. The only reason the " process " would be different would be if there is a significant difference in the type of tissue where the cysts are forming, breast versus uterine (and there is a difference in tissue structure). The main difference in treatment in using LDT that I can see is depth of the cysts in the body. Breast tissue work mostly involves the superficial lymph nodes, basically right beneath the skin. The work is therefore done very shallowly, in essence little more than skin deep. There are also deeper nodes beneath the breast tissue, back against outer chest wall that are also addressed, but the bulk of the work is done superficially because that is where the cysts are. I would need to check my manuals to determine if the uterine lymph nodes are part of the superficial lymphatic system or the deeper abdominal system, or both. I just don't know at the moment off the top of my head. If superficial, the work would also be done very lightly. If deeper, there would be a slight increase in pressure applied, but still not a heavy, deep pressure. I have only had occasion to do this work twice, and then added my own variation to it. After detecting the cysts in the breast tissue with light palpation, I first used a variation of the polarity X technique to run energy through the cyst. I could definitely sense a " softening " of the cyst while doing it. After first treating the cysts energetically, I then did the lymph drainage work. The tissue was then reassessed after treatment to note any differences. I can say that there were palpable differences, before and afer. Did the work eliminate the cysts? We don't know yet. One of the ladies will be having a mammogram in August and the other in October. We should have a pretty good idea at that time if the treatments were successful. Based on my previous experiences using energy, I am hopeful, but only time will tell. As for the uterine cyst question - can't comment from personal experience because I have not had occassion to do any treatment work for uterine cysts so far. My supposition is that if it would work for the one, it should work for the other, but I can't say this is true from personal experience. To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2004 Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 Well I just learned something too! Thanks Deb and Jill!!! :-) ------------- My turn to say " ditto. " Your answers made me wonder something else, though. Specifically, I am wondering how close the tissue structure is between the smooth muscle fibrotic " tumor " and the adhesive tissue involved with trigger points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2004 Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 I bet there are some images on the net about this. If nothing else, microscopic slides might give you a clue. Debbi Re: Question Re fibroids in breast and/or uterus Well I just learned something too! Thanks Deb and Jill!!! :-) ------------- My turn to say " ditto. " Your answers made me wonder something else, though. Specifically, I am wondering how close the tissue structure is between the smooth muscle fibrotic " tumor " and the adhesive tissue involved with trigger points. To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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