Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 >>> I feel like I'm stuck between a rock & a hard place. My son has shown a +1 food intolerance to rice. This is very low, isn't it? I know those test are not definitive, so it is quite borderline. Other parents have been told to only worry about foods that are 2 and up. >>>Peptizyde & AFP Peptizyde both contain rice bran. Do you give it to him? Do enzymes help with food intolerances? This is what I would do and why, but remember I am not you and I do not know your child. Enzymes do indeed help with food intolerances. I would give him a trial of the Peptizyde since you already have it and watch for reactions for about 5 days or so. Loose stools are to be expected the first few days with any enzymes product because the body is adjusting to processing more food and there is likely to be some cleaning out of rubbish in the gut. If my child had specific food intolerance reactions, like red ears, night waking, dark circles under eyes, I would look for those. You may also see additional withdrawal reactions even though you have been GFCF because the enzymes pick up stuff food removals may not. I would give 1/4 a capsule at the two main meals for a couple days, then give 1/2 capsule, then go to one capsule. This makes the adjustment less dramatic on the body. Most everyone who knew they had a reaction to rice or rice bran, including severe reactions, have been able to use Houston enzymes without problem. The enzymes within the product may be breaking down the rice bran itself (and the rice bran is very minor in terms of quantity in the product). Keep posting how it goes this week. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 > I feel like I'm stuck between a rock & a hard place. My son has shown a +1 food intolerance to rice. Peptizyde & AFP Peptizyde both contain rice bran. Do you give it to him? Do enzymes help with food intolerances? My kids do not tolerate rice bran but they tolerate these enzymes just fine. My theory is that the enzymes " digest " the rice bran, so they don't react to it. > > We have also been GFCF for a year and a half. I am now trying the enzymes faithfully with every meal (will remain strictly gfcf). My son's has had fairly consistent solid stools. Today was our first day of enzymes and he had horrible diarrhea tonight. I know it's too early to make any conclusions, but I am wondering what it means... This sounds like either an intolerance to the papain/bromelain which is in certain enzymes, or your son was still eating foods which he did not tolerate, and the enzymes are causing withdrawal symptoms for those foods. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 a) I would not trust animal feed as human food. Here is a quote from the link you gave: " But the bran has to be very fresh, or it's worthless. Because it's been so hard to stabilize this nutrient-rich food, millions of tons of it are discarded or sold for low-grade animal feed every year. " There is a reason why the bran in the feed store is so cheap. Alobar On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:26 AM, michaelinde <michaelinde@...> wrote: > Recently I was in the local feed store and noticed they had a new product, 50lb sacks of rice bran. After researching it on the net some surprising results turned up. > Link below. > http://www.bettykamen.com/stabilizedricebran.htm > Even though a particular product is mentioned I believe everone could glen from the article. > Impressive and cheap. Fifty pound sack cost all of 10.00 > Has gluthonie cq10 selenium and many more elements > michael > > ps for those with a sweet tooth it is sweet and a low glycimic rating . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 good point darn that scan reading gets me all the time(smile) michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Sounds great, but is it for human consumption?...somethings in feed stores are just for animals... as they may have simply swept the floor and put it into a bag... d From: michaelinde <michaelinde@...> Subject: Rice bran Coconut Oil Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 3:26 AM Â Recently I was in the local feed store and noticed they had a new product, 50lb sacks of rice bran. After researching it on the net some surprising results turned up. Link below. http://www.bettykamen.com/stabilizedricebran.htm Even though a particular product is mentioned I believe everone could glen from the article. Impressive and cheap. Fifty pound sack cost all of 10.00 Has gluthonie cq10 selenium and many more elements michael ps for those with a sweet tooth it is sweet and a low glycimic rating . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 I agree with using only quality stabilised bran. The net gain would not be so apparent if the product was partly decomoposed, as the degradation involves elevated pollutants, toxins as it were. One product I looked into years ago was Integfris Global's risotriene. Bran is no longer a whole food of course because we have removed the 90% or so carbohydrate, but it is now legendary as a superfood. IMO there's no such thing as a high-nutritional serving of rice unless it is so refined. Just an observation about the whole food. I have a tub of stabilised oat bran I use to thicken dishes with, similarly enhanced by extraction from whole food. all good, > > a) I would not trust animal feed as human food. > > Here is a quote from the link you gave: > " But the bran has to be very fresh, or it's worthless. Because it's > been so hard to stabilize this nutrient-rich food, millions of tons of > it are discarded or sold for low-grade animal feed every year. " > > There is a reason why the bran in the feed store is so cheap. > > Alobar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Wondering how you know it is high quality... and what may be done to 'stabilize' it... and then after purchase...how long is it good for?... thanks in advance... d From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: Rice bran Coconut Oil Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 1:26 PM Â I agree with using only quality stabilised bran. The net gain would not be so apparent if the product was partly decomoposed, as the degradation involves elevated pollutants, toxins as it were. One product I looked into years ago was Integfris Global's risotriene. Bran is no longer a whole food of course because we have removed the 90% or so carbohydrate, but it is now legendary as a superfood. IMO there's no such thing as a high-nutritional serving of rice unless it is so refined. Just an observation about the whole food. I have a tub of stabilised oat bran I use to thicken dishes with, similarly enhanced by extraction from whole food. all good, > > a) I would not trust animal feed as human food. > > Here is a quote from the link you gave: > " But the bran has to be very fresh, or it's worthless. Because it's > been so hard to stabilize this nutrient-rich food, millions of tons of > it are discarded or sold for low-grade animal feed every year. " > > There is a reason why the bran in the feed store is so cheap. > > Alobar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 I would read the label and maybe some industry documentation as to shelf life of the specific product and similars. Generally though, once the enzyme in rice bran is broken (in this case by steaming it), the relatively stable product breaks down by normal oxidation, which takes several years in dry storage. Processed foods usually have an expiry date that may give one an idea as to the threshold of decay. all good, Duncan > > Wondering how you know it is high quality... > and what may be done to 'stabilize' it... > and then after purchase...how long is it good for?... > thanks in advance... > d > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 I guess I was wondering if we can trust the labels... Whole Foods had an issue where they were selling frozen organic veggies from China...supposedly verified to be organic by third and forth party folks who were paid to give them a 'pass'... One really has to buy from those they trust as some businesses today seem to be ethics challenged... it is all about integrity IMHO... d From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: Rice bran Coconut Oil Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 2:55 PM Â I would read the label and maybe some industry documentation as to shelf life of the specific product and similars. Generally though, once the enzyme in rice bran is broken (in this case by steaming it), the relatively stable product breaks down by normal oxidation, which takes several years in dry storage. Processed foods usually have an expiry date that may give one an idea as to the threshold of decay. all good, Duncan > > Wondering how you know it is high quality... > and what may be done to 'stabilize' it... > and then after purchase...how long is it good for?... > thanks in advance... > d > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Yes, more research is needed.I was initially impressed with large amount of vit e, selenium,copper along with the antioxidants I was carried away manly because my trucker knees was taken care of by this product. http://www.animedproducts.com/hjoint.html michael some are listing rice bran as a superfood but it appears not enough info is available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Don, This is the company that was mentioned in the article by Dr. Kaman: http://www.nutracea.com/ Here is what she had to say about it: quote: " NutraCea , a new nutraceutical company near Sacramento, California, is the exclusive marketer of stabilized rice bran products under license from the RiceX Company. RiceX has created a process that reliably denatures the lipase in rice bran without causing very much damage to the rest of the food's chemistry. This is done with a mechanical extrusion process - forcing the somewhat ductile grain to deform as it squeezes through small openings in a metal die. The high rate of sheer deformation during extrusion causes just the right amount of internal heating for just the right amount of time. A number of other variables have to be carefully controlled, and some of the processes involved are proprietary trade secrets. The result is a stabilized rice bran product that retains most of the vital nutrients of fresh rice bran, but has a shelf life measured in years rather than hours. " http://www.bettykamen.com/stabilizedricebran.htm I haven't tried it myself yet but sounds interesting. Dee > > Wondering how you know it is high quality... > and what may be done to 'stabilize' it... > and then after purchase...how long is it good for?... > thanks in advance... > d > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Very nice, Dee...thanks alot...it does sound good... don From: Dolores <dgk@...> Subject: Re: Rice bran Coconut Oil Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 10:39 AM Â Don, This is the company that was mentioned in the article by Dr. Kaman: http://www.nutracea.com/ Here is what she had to say about it: quote: " NutraCea , a new nutraceutical company near Sacramento, California, is the exclusive marketer of stabilized rice bran products under license from the RiceX Company. RiceX has created a process that reliably denatures the lipase in rice bran without causing very much damage to the rest of the food's chemistry. This is done with a mechanical extrusion process - forcing the somewhat ductile grain to deform as it squeezes through small openings in a metal die. The high rate of sheer deformation during extrusion causes just the right amount of internal heating for just the right amount of time. A number of other variables have to be carefully controlled, and some of the processes involved are proprietary trade secrets. The result is a stabilized rice bran product that retains most of the vital nutrients of fresh rice bran, but has a shelf life measured in years rather than hours. " http://www.bettykamen.com/stabilizedricebran.htm I haven't tried it myself yet but sounds interesting. Dee > > Wondering how you know it is high quality... > and what may be done to 'stabilize' it... > and then after purchase...how long is it good for?... > thanks in advance... > d > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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