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Howdy Alan,

May I ask, are you currently bone on bone? And if so, is Dr.

Theo suggesting that lost cartilage can be rebuilt? Or is it merely

the hope of stopping the degradation of cartilage. It's hard to

imagine " lost " cartilage being restored. I think I'll check out the

website. Thanks for the post, it's fascinating and exciting. But you

realize that, if by using ASU you would avoid a resurface, you'll be

disallowed from the " cobalt can-can " at our convention.

C+ Amstutz 4-15-04

> Hey Gang...

>

> Just to be clear at the top, ASU is not the University in

Arizona.

> It's a compound reputed/claimed to help/reverse/cure/improve OA.

>

> Before I got my actual diagnosis, when I still hoped I could avoid

> extreme measures, I happened up a book, " The Arthitis Cure " , by

Dr.

> Theodosakis (Dr. Theo, he calls himself). He has a

website.

> His was one of the first mainstream publications to claim the

> benefits of glucosamine and chondroitin. Since that time, he's

> written a follow-up book...with information about another possibly

> beneficial compound. It's called ASU ( " avocado-soybean

> unsaponiables " ; though the spelling may be a letter or two south

of

> correct.) The claim is that ASU is a combination of two highly

> refined oils/fatty acids from avocado and soybeans which have

> therapeutic properties. The claim is that they can actually spur

the

> regrowth of cartilege, reducing bone-on-bone contact, and

> effectively " cure " OA.

>

> Before my diagnosis, I had ordered some ASU. The first shipments

> were delayed a bit for some technical reasons having to do with

> labelling. Between the time I placed the order and their shipping

> date, I got my diagnosis and saw the x-rays. I cancelled the

order.

> But the more I thought about it, the more it occurred to me that

this

> could be a real-life, in-my-body lab test of something that, Dr.

Theo

> says, is widely available in Europe, and has a great track record

> there. So I restored the order.

>

> A six month supply of the stuff arrived on Tuesday, 5/18/04. I

took

> the first tablet. The label information says real change or

benefit

> should be apparent after four weeks. I'll keep you posted. If

> there's progress, this is good. If the stuff does nothing, I'll

at

> least be able to provide my own cautionary tale to others who

might

> be considering taking ASU. FYI: since I was in the first wave of

> orders, I got an " introductory " price of $139.00 plus shipping,

for a

> six month supply. The price will certainly go up. Anybody who

wants

> to know more from the source (and believe me, I don't know nearly

> enough or have enough experience to sell the stuff), his website

is

> www.drtheo.com. Or you could just type drtheo in the keyword

search

> line.

>

> (A note, for what it's worth: I had my annual physical the week

> before I saw Dr. Amstutz, and told my internist about the hip

> diagnosis. He told me of a female patient he'd had, who had the

same

> diagnosis... and started talking a three-letter supplement of some

> kind (he couldn't remember much else about it.) Six months later

(he

> says), new x-rays showed no OA, and her THR was cancelled. He's

> trying to track her down to get more information on the supplement

> she took. If I get the information from him, I'll post it here;

but

> always remember about such " information " : Until you try the

> information...and find it works for you, it's worth exactly what

you

> paid for it.

>

> Hobble on, hippies...

> Alan

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Howdy Alan,

May I ask, are you currently bone on bone? And if so, is Dr.

Theo suggesting that lost cartilage can be rebuilt? Or is it merely

the hope of stopping the degradation of cartilage. It's hard to

imagine " lost " cartilage being restored. I think I'll check out the

website. Thanks for the post, it's fascinating and exciting. But you

realize that, if by using ASU you would avoid a resurface, you'll be

disallowed from the " cobalt can-can " at our convention.

C+ Amstutz 4-15-04

> Hey Gang...

>

> Just to be clear at the top, ASU is not the University in

Arizona.

> It's a compound reputed/claimed to help/reverse/cure/improve OA.

>

> Before I got my actual diagnosis, when I still hoped I could avoid

> extreme measures, I happened up a book, " The Arthitis Cure " , by

Dr.

> Theodosakis (Dr. Theo, he calls himself). He has a

website.

> His was one of the first mainstream publications to claim the

> benefits of glucosamine and chondroitin. Since that time, he's

> written a follow-up book...with information about another possibly

> beneficial compound. It's called ASU ( " avocado-soybean

> unsaponiables " ; though the spelling may be a letter or two south

of

> correct.) The claim is that ASU is a combination of two highly

> refined oils/fatty acids from avocado and soybeans which have

> therapeutic properties. The claim is that they can actually spur

the

> regrowth of cartilege, reducing bone-on-bone contact, and

> effectively " cure " OA.

>

> Before my diagnosis, I had ordered some ASU. The first shipments

> were delayed a bit for some technical reasons having to do with

> labelling. Between the time I placed the order and their shipping

> date, I got my diagnosis and saw the x-rays. I cancelled the

order.

> But the more I thought about it, the more it occurred to me that

this

> could be a real-life, in-my-body lab test of something that, Dr.

Theo

> says, is widely available in Europe, and has a great track record

> there. So I restored the order.

>

> A six month supply of the stuff arrived on Tuesday, 5/18/04. I

took

> the first tablet. The label information says real change or

benefit

> should be apparent after four weeks. I'll keep you posted. If

> there's progress, this is good. If the stuff does nothing, I'll

at

> least be able to provide my own cautionary tale to others who

might

> be considering taking ASU. FYI: since I was in the first wave of

> orders, I got an " introductory " price of $139.00 plus shipping,

for a

> six month supply. The price will certainly go up. Anybody who

wants

> to know more from the source (and believe me, I don't know nearly

> enough or have enough experience to sell the stuff), his website

is

> www.drtheo.com. Or you could just type drtheo in the keyword

search

> line.

>

> (A note, for what it's worth: I had my annual physical the week

> before I saw Dr. Amstutz, and told my internist about the hip

> diagnosis. He told me of a female patient he'd had, who had the

same

> diagnosis... and started talking a three-letter supplement of some

> kind (he couldn't remember much else about it.) Six months later

(he

> says), new x-rays showed no OA, and her THR was cancelled. He's

> trying to track her down to get more information on the supplement

> she took. If I get the information from him, I'll post it here;

but

> always remember about such " information " : Until you try the

> information...and find it works for you, it's worth exactly what

you

> paid for it.

>

> Hobble on, hippies...

> Alan

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Yo, Chris...

Left hip; bone-on-bone, which is why, at first, I cancelled the

order. But there's also very early stage OA in the right hip.

Figured I have nothing to lose taking for the right hip...and if

something good happens with the left... how bad can that be?

As I've understood the medicine of this, there may still be remnants

of cartilege, even in bone-on-bone conditions. The claim for ASU is

that it feeds the cartilege " matrix " , and thereby grows new stuff.

I figure, if I save the other hip, I'm ahead of the game...and

anything else is just gravy.

If the stuff actually works, not only would I be denied the obvious

pleasures of the cobalt can-can, but I would also be denied a chance

to brag in mixed-gender public about the size of my balls. Some

sacrifices are just toooo great to ponder.

((The stuff that goes on here))

Hey...you still take it easy. It sounds like you may have pushed a

bit too hard the first day back at work. It's not like you're just

pushing a pencil, you know.

All the Best.

Alan

> > Hey Gang...

> >

> > Just to be clear at the top, ASU is not the University in

> Arizona.

> > It's a compound reputed/claimed to help/reverse/cure/improve OA.

> >

> > Before I got my actual diagnosis, when I still hoped I could

avoid

> > extreme measures, I happened up a book, " The Arthitis Cure " , by

> Dr.

> > Theodosakis (Dr. Theo, he calls himself). He has a

> website.

> > His was one of the first mainstream publications to claim the

> > benefits of glucosamine and chondroitin. Since that time, he's

> > written a follow-up book...with information about another

possibly

> > beneficial compound. It's called ASU ( " avocado-soybean

> > unsaponiables " ; though the spelling may be a letter or two south

> of

> > correct.) The claim is that ASU is a combination of two highly

> > refined oils/fatty acids from avocado and soybeans which have

> > therapeutic properties. The claim is that they can actually spur

> the

> > regrowth of cartilege, reducing bone-on-bone contact, and

> > effectively " cure " OA.

> >

> > Before my diagnosis, I had ordered some ASU. The first shipments

> > were delayed a bit for some technical reasons having to do with

> > labelling. Between the time I placed the order and their

shipping

> > date, I got my diagnosis and saw the x-rays. I cancelled the

> order.

> > But the more I thought about it, the more it occurred to me that

> this

> > could be a real-life, in-my-body lab test of something that, Dr.

> Theo

> > says, is widely available in Europe, and has a great track record

> > there. So I restored the order.

> >

> > A six month supply of the stuff arrived on Tuesday, 5/18/04. I

> took

> > the first tablet. The label information says real change or

> benefit

> > should be apparent after four weeks. I'll keep you posted. If

> > there's progress, this is good. If the stuff does nothing, I'll

> at

> > least be able to provide my own cautionary tale to others who

> might

> > be considering taking ASU. FYI: since I was in the first wave of

> > orders, I got an " introductory " price of $139.00 plus shipping,

> for a

> > six month supply. The price will certainly go up. Anybody who

> wants

> > to know more from the source (and believe me, I don't know nearly

> > enough or have enough experience to sell the stuff), his website

> is

> > www.drtheo.com. Or you could just type drtheo in the keyword

> search

> > line.

> >

> > (A note, for what it's worth: I had my annual physical the week

> > before I saw Dr. Amstutz, and told my internist about the hip

> > diagnosis. He told me of a female patient he'd had, who had the

> same

> > diagnosis... and started talking a three-letter supplement of

some

> > kind (he couldn't remember much else about it.) Six months later

> (he

> > says), new x-rays showed no OA, and her THR was cancelled. He's

> > trying to track her down to get more information on the

supplement

> > she took. If I get the information from him, I'll post it here;

> but

> > always remember about such " information " : Until you try the

> > information...and find it works for you, it's worth exactly what

> you

> > paid for it.

> >

> > Hobble on, hippies...

> > Alan

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Yo, Chris...

Left hip; bone-on-bone, which is why, at first, I cancelled the

order. But there's also very early stage OA in the right hip.

Figured I have nothing to lose taking for the right hip...and if

something good happens with the left... how bad can that be?

As I've understood the medicine of this, there may still be remnants

of cartilege, even in bone-on-bone conditions. The claim for ASU is

that it feeds the cartilege " matrix " , and thereby grows new stuff.

I figure, if I save the other hip, I'm ahead of the game...and

anything else is just gravy.

If the stuff actually works, not only would I be denied the obvious

pleasures of the cobalt can-can, but I would also be denied a chance

to brag in mixed-gender public about the size of my balls. Some

sacrifices are just toooo great to ponder.

((The stuff that goes on here))

Hey...you still take it easy. It sounds like you may have pushed a

bit too hard the first day back at work. It's not like you're just

pushing a pencil, you know.

All the Best.

Alan

> > Hey Gang...

> >

> > Just to be clear at the top, ASU is not the University in

> Arizona.

> > It's a compound reputed/claimed to help/reverse/cure/improve OA.

> >

> > Before I got my actual diagnosis, when I still hoped I could

avoid

> > extreme measures, I happened up a book, " The Arthitis Cure " , by

> Dr.

> > Theodosakis (Dr. Theo, he calls himself). He has a

> website.

> > His was one of the first mainstream publications to claim the

> > benefits of glucosamine and chondroitin. Since that time, he's

> > written a follow-up book...with information about another

possibly

> > beneficial compound. It's called ASU ( " avocado-soybean

> > unsaponiables " ; though the spelling may be a letter or two south

> of

> > correct.) The claim is that ASU is a combination of two highly

> > refined oils/fatty acids from avocado and soybeans which have

> > therapeutic properties. The claim is that they can actually spur

> the

> > regrowth of cartilege, reducing bone-on-bone contact, and

> > effectively " cure " OA.

> >

> > Before my diagnosis, I had ordered some ASU. The first shipments

> > were delayed a bit for some technical reasons having to do with

> > labelling. Between the time I placed the order and their

shipping

> > date, I got my diagnosis and saw the x-rays. I cancelled the

> order.

> > But the more I thought about it, the more it occurred to me that

> this

> > could be a real-life, in-my-body lab test of something that, Dr.

> Theo

> > says, is widely available in Europe, and has a great track record

> > there. So I restored the order.

> >

> > A six month supply of the stuff arrived on Tuesday, 5/18/04. I

> took

> > the first tablet. The label information says real change or

> benefit

> > should be apparent after four weeks. I'll keep you posted. If

> > there's progress, this is good. If the stuff does nothing, I'll

> at

> > least be able to provide my own cautionary tale to others who

> might

> > be considering taking ASU. FYI: since I was in the first wave of

> > orders, I got an " introductory " price of $139.00 plus shipping,

> for a

> > six month supply. The price will certainly go up. Anybody who

> wants

> > to know more from the source (and believe me, I don't know nearly

> > enough or have enough experience to sell the stuff), his website

> is

> > www.drtheo.com. Or you could just type drtheo in the keyword

> search

> > line.

> >

> > (A note, for what it's worth: I had my annual physical the week

> > before I saw Dr. Amstutz, and told my internist about the hip

> > diagnosis. He told me of a female patient he'd had, who had the

> same

> > diagnosis... and started talking a three-letter supplement of

some

> > kind (he couldn't remember much else about it.) Six months later

> (he

> > says), new x-rays showed no OA, and her THR was cancelled. He's

> > trying to track her down to get more information on the

supplement

> > she took. If I get the information from him, I'll post it here;

> but

> > always remember about such " information " : Until you try the

> > information...and find it works for you, it's worth exactly what

> you

> > paid for it.

> >

> > Hobble on, hippies...

> > Alan

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As I think I've said to someone else before here, I'm always happy to

pass along what I think I've learned from reading the work of people

who truly know something.

Good luck.

Let me know what hear, and what you decide.

Alan

> Thank you for the ASU lead. Think I'm going to try it after I hear

back on a

> question I sent to Dr. Theo's Web site.

>

> Maureen

>

>

>

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As I think I've said to someone else before here, I'm always happy to

pass along what I think I've learned from reading the work of people

who truly know something.

Good luck.

Let me know what hear, and what you decide.

Alan

> Thank you for the ASU lead. Think I'm going to try it after I hear

back on a

> question I sent to Dr. Theo's Web site.

>

> Maureen

>

>

>

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Hmmmmmm...ASU...that's where two of my children go to

college...Appalachian State University in Boone, NC....seriously, if

it works, that's great but the price makes me skeptical...I went to a

conference on " The Emerging Epidemic of Bone and Joint Disease " (this

was a continuing education conference for pharmacists, nurses,

therapists, nutritionists, etc.)....in their alternative approaches

section they mentioned nutmeg as an old Indian remedy...take three

whole nutmeg (health food store), grind...in coffee grinder (after

smashing with meat mallot) ...and mix in 1 quart water. Take three

sips a day. Now three nutmeg are only about $1.50..... I eat tons of

soy and avacados but my hips are still a wreck....but hey, keep me

posted! If it works, I'll try it! I'm gonna check my couse outline

for that conference and see if they mentioned ASU. I may have

overlooked it. Thanks for giving us a new treatment to investigate!

Susie in Memphis

> Thank you for the ASU lead. Think I'm going to try it after I hear

back on a

> question I sent to Dr. Theo's Web site.

>

> Maureen

>

>

>

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Alan,

All good points, sir. I think ll of us " one-siders " would like

to do all that may be possible for our non-op hips. As much as I

miss the night life at JRI, I'd really like my good hip to last til'

age 100.

And I feel much better today!!!! I did try to be too macho at

work, but it's ok. I learned my lesson. I swam this morning for 1/2

mile or so, and even went 15 minutes on the stationary bike (at

level 1, mind you)...but I feel good! My leg condition gets worse as

the day wears on, and so my outlook does as well. I'm always more

positive in the mornings. My stretching is giving hope for the

future as well. My PT buddy is large and in charge, and has me

moving in the right direction. Since I was whining so much about the

flexion issue, he gave me a 45cm exercise ball that I rest my

operated side foot on while laying on my back. This way I can flex

my hip up without having to grab my leg or support the weight. I

just roll the leg on top of the ball! So simple, but it is working

great! And I can progress at my own pace, without him shoving my

knee toward my chin. I accidently rammed my surfboard into his

kneecap last summer while surfing together, and he was out of the

water for 2 weeks....now he is exacting his revenge.

C+ 4-04

> > > Hey Gang...

> > >

> > > Just to be clear at the top, ASU is not the University in

> > Arizona.

> > > It's a compound reputed/claimed to help/reverse/cure/improve

OA.

> > >

> > > Before I got my actual diagnosis, when I still hoped I could

> avoid

> > > extreme measures, I happened up a book, " The Arthitis Cure " ,

by

> > Dr.

> > > Theodosakis (Dr. Theo, he calls himself). He has a

> > website.

> > > His was one of the first mainstream publications to claim the

> > > benefits of glucosamine and chondroitin. Since that time,

he's

> > > written a follow-up book...with information about another

> possibly

> > > beneficial compound. It's called ASU ( " avocado-soybean

> > > unsaponiables " ; though the spelling may be a letter or two

south

> > of

> > > correct.) The claim is that ASU is a combination of two

highly

> > > refined oils/fatty acids from avocado and soybeans which have

> > > therapeutic properties. The claim is that they can actually

spur

> > the

> > > regrowth of cartilege, reducing bone-on-bone contact, and

> > > effectively " cure " OA.

> > >

> > > Before my diagnosis, I had ordered some ASU. The first

shipments

> > > were delayed a bit for some technical reasons having to do

with

> > > labelling. Between the time I placed the order and their

> shipping

> > > date, I got my diagnosis and saw the x-rays. I cancelled the

> > order.

> > > But the more I thought about it, the more it occurred to me

that

> > this

> > > could be a real-life, in-my-body lab test of something that,

Dr.

> > Theo

> > > says, is widely available in Europe, and has a great track

record

> > > there. So I restored the order.

> > >

> > > A six month supply of the stuff arrived on Tuesday, 5/18/04.

I

> > took

> > > the first tablet. The label information says real change or

> > benefit

> > > should be apparent after four weeks. I'll keep you posted.

If

> > > there's progress, this is good. If the stuff does nothing,

I'll

> > at

> > > least be able to provide my own cautionary tale to others who

> > might

> > > be considering taking ASU. FYI: since I was in the first wave

of

> > > orders, I got an " introductory " price of $139.00 plus

shipping,

> > for a

> > > six month supply. The price will certainly go up. Anybody

who

> > wants

> > > to know more from the source (and believe me, I don't know

nearly

> > > enough or have enough experience to sell the stuff), his

website

> > is

> > > www.drtheo.com. Or you could just type drtheo in the keyword

> > search

> > > line.

> > >

> > > (A note, for what it's worth: I had my annual physical the

week

> > > before I saw Dr. Amstutz, and told my internist about the hip

> > > diagnosis. He told me of a female patient he'd had, who had

the

> > same

> > > diagnosis... and started talking a three-letter supplement of

> some

> > > kind (he couldn't remember much else about it.) Six months

later

> > (he

> > > says), new x-rays showed no OA, and her THR was cancelled.

He's

> > > trying to track her down to get more information on the

> supplement

> > > she took. If I get the information from him, I'll post it

here;

> > but

> > > always remember about such " information " : Until you try the

> > > information...and find it works for you, it's worth exactly

what

> > you

> > > paid for it.

> > >

> > > Hobble on, hippies...

> > > Alan

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Alan,

All good points, sir. I think ll of us " one-siders " would like

to do all that may be possible for our non-op hips. As much as I

miss the night life at JRI, I'd really like my good hip to last til'

age 100.

And I feel much better today!!!! I did try to be too macho at

work, but it's ok. I learned my lesson. I swam this morning for 1/2

mile or so, and even went 15 minutes on the stationary bike (at

level 1, mind you)...but I feel good! My leg condition gets worse as

the day wears on, and so my outlook does as well. I'm always more

positive in the mornings. My stretching is giving hope for the

future as well. My PT buddy is large and in charge, and has me

moving in the right direction. Since I was whining so much about the

flexion issue, he gave me a 45cm exercise ball that I rest my

operated side foot on while laying on my back. This way I can flex

my hip up without having to grab my leg or support the weight. I

just roll the leg on top of the ball! So simple, but it is working

great! And I can progress at my own pace, without him shoving my

knee toward my chin. I accidently rammed my surfboard into his

kneecap last summer while surfing together, and he was out of the

water for 2 weeks....now he is exacting his revenge.

C+ 4-04

> > > Hey Gang...

> > >

> > > Just to be clear at the top, ASU is not the University in

> > Arizona.

> > > It's a compound reputed/claimed to help/reverse/cure/improve

OA.

> > >

> > > Before I got my actual diagnosis, when I still hoped I could

> avoid

> > > extreme measures, I happened up a book, " The Arthitis Cure " ,

by

> > Dr.

> > > Theodosakis (Dr. Theo, he calls himself). He has a

> > website.

> > > His was one of the first mainstream publications to claim the

> > > benefits of glucosamine and chondroitin. Since that time,

he's

> > > written a follow-up book...with information about another

> possibly

> > > beneficial compound. It's called ASU ( " avocado-soybean

> > > unsaponiables " ; though the spelling may be a letter or two

south

> > of

> > > correct.) The claim is that ASU is a combination of two

highly

> > > refined oils/fatty acids from avocado and soybeans which have

> > > therapeutic properties. The claim is that they can actually

spur

> > the

> > > regrowth of cartilege, reducing bone-on-bone contact, and

> > > effectively " cure " OA.

> > >

> > > Before my diagnosis, I had ordered some ASU. The first

shipments

> > > were delayed a bit for some technical reasons having to do

with

> > > labelling. Between the time I placed the order and their

> shipping

> > > date, I got my diagnosis and saw the x-rays. I cancelled the

> > order.

> > > But the more I thought about it, the more it occurred to me

that

> > this

> > > could be a real-life, in-my-body lab test of something that,

Dr.

> > Theo

> > > says, is widely available in Europe, and has a great track

record

> > > there. So I restored the order.

> > >

> > > A six month supply of the stuff arrived on Tuesday, 5/18/04.

I

> > took

> > > the first tablet. The label information says real change or

> > benefit

> > > should be apparent after four weeks. I'll keep you posted.

If

> > > there's progress, this is good. If the stuff does nothing,

I'll

> > at

> > > least be able to provide my own cautionary tale to others who

> > might

> > > be considering taking ASU. FYI: since I was in the first wave

of

> > > orders, I got an " introductory " price of $139.00 plus

shipping,

> > for a

> > > six month supply. The price will certainly go up. Anybody

who

> > wants

> > > to know more from the source (and believe me, I don't know

nearly

> > > enough or have enough experience to sell the stuff), his

website

> > is

> > > www.drtheo.com. Or you could just type drtheo in the keyword

> > search

> > > line.

> > >

> > > (A note, for what it's worth: I had my annual physical the

week

> > > before I saw Dr. Amstutz, and told my internist about the hip

> > > diagnosis. He told me of a female patient he'd had, who had

the

> > same

> > > diagnosis... and started talking a three-letter supplement of

> some

> > > kind (he couldn't remember much else about it.) Six months

later

> > (he

> > > says), new x-rays showed no OA, and her THR was cancelled.

He's

> > > trying to track her down to get more information on the

> supplement

> > > she took. If I get the information from him, I'll post it

here;

> > but

> > > always remember about such " information " : Until you try the

> > > information...and find it works for you, it's worth exactly

what

> > you

> > > paid for it.

> > >

> > > Hobble on, hippies...

> > > Alan

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Yo, Memphis Belle...

Suggest you go to Dr. Theo's website. Or check out the updated

version of his " Arthritis Cure " book. You can read the critical

parts while you're standing in the aisle at the bookstore...then you

don't even have to buy the book. In either place he eplains that the

substances in ASU occur in such minute quanitities in avocado and

soybeans that you just couldn't eat enough to get a useful amount.

If anybody else had recommended it, I probably wouldn't have noticed,

but he's got a track record and was way out in front on glucosamine

and chondroitin. I have no idea if it works. I'm not selling it,

pitching it or recommending it. I hope it works, but I'm also still

waiting for the word on what -- if any -- my resurf insurance will

cover. And whatever happens, I'm expecting/hoping that resurfacing

is my future.

I posted the message because somebody who may know something (and who

certainly seems to know a lot more than I) has written something that

may be important to other people here, even if it's too late for me.

Alan

> > Thank you for the ASU lead. Think I'm going to try it after I

hear

> back on a

> > question I sent to Dr. Theo's Web site.

> >

> > Maureen

> >

> >

> >

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Yo, Memphis Belle...

Suggest you go to Dr. Theo's website. Or check out the updated

version of his " Arthritis Cure " book. You can read the critical

parts while you're standing in the aisle at the bookstore...then you

don't even have to buy the book. In either place he eplains that the

substances in ASU occur in such minute quanitities in avocado and

soybeans that you just couldn't eat enough to get a useful amount.

If anybody else had recommended it, I probably wouldn't have noticed,

but he's got a track record and was way out in front on glucosamine

and chondroitin. I have no idea if it works. I'm not selling it,

pitching it or recommending it. I hope it works, but I'm also still

waiting for the word on what -- if any -- my resurf insurance will

cover. And whatever happens, I'm expecting/hoping that resurfacing

is my future.

I posted the message because somebody who may know something (and who

certainly seems to know a lot more than I) has written something that

may be important to other people here, even if it's too late for me.

Alan

> > Thank you for the ASU lead. Think I'm going to try it after I

hear

> back on a

> > question I sent to Dr. Theo's Web site.

> >

> > Maureen

> >

> >

> >

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-Alan!~ I will check out that book and visit the website...like I

said...I'm all for something that works...I've a collection of

potential remedies....and I'm into natural substances and I highly

respect soy in any form ...but I have this feeling like so many

others on this web site...that hip resurfacing is the only answer for

my hips....but ASU might be useful for all these other joints in my

body, eh? Any pharmacists/nutritionists/chemists in our group out

there??? What insurance company are you dealing with about your

resurfacing? I'm wondering about that myself. Susie in Memphis

-- In surfacehippy , " Alan Ray " wrote:

> Yo, Memphis Belle...

>

> Suggest you go to Dr. Theo's website. Or check out the updated

> version of his " Arthritis Cure " book. You can read the critical

> parts while you're standing in the aisle at the bookstore...then

you

> don't even have to buy the book. In either place he eplains that

the

> substances in ASU occur in such minute quanitities in avocado and

> soybeans that you just couldn't eat enough to get a useful amount.

>

> If anybody else had recommended it, I probably wouldn't have

noticed,

> but he's got a track record and was way out in front on glucosamine

> and chondroitin. I have no idea if it works. I'm not selling it,

> pitching it or recommending it. I hope it works, but I'm also

still

> waiting for the word on what -- if any -- my resurf insurance will

> cover. And whatever happens, I'm expecting/hoping that resurfacing

> is my future.

>

> I posted the message because somebody who may know something (and

who

> certainly seems to know a lot more than I) has written something

that

> may be important to other people here, even if it's too late for

me.

>

> Alan

>

> > > Thank you for the ASU lead. Think I'm going to try it after I

> hear

> > back on a

> > > question I sent to Dr. Theo's Web site.

> > >

> > > Maureen

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Alan,

I have a vague memory that this came up before as I have been out to that

web site before...........

As I see it the problem with so much of this variety of 'take something and

it will all be better' is that firstly the body has to recognize the need to

actually take the stuff to the particular joint and repair it.............

i.e. simply taking something sadly doesn't mean that the body knows what to

do with it............ realises that it has to take it to a hip joint and

regrow cartledge etc.

Secondly it seems to me that a percentage of joint arthritis has much to do

with the joint bones getting irritated because muscles are not providing

support in an appropriate manner...........I suspect one would have to get

that pressure off first before any substance would be able to make headway

with healing, even if the body automatically knew what to do with it........

As someone who has had extensive arthritis in joints because of damage

through the stress of my fused hip I have had people tell me of 'cures' for

many a long year now............. Nothing I ever did has had as much impact

as getting a new hip and now being able to get some effective and

appropriate exercise.......... But bodies do do interesting things as the

recent AVN guy just proved........... I wish you well with your

testing.............

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Yo, Memphis Belle...

>

> Suggest you go to Dr. Theo's website. Or check out the updated

> version of his " Arthritis Cure " book. You can read the critical

> parts while you're standing in the aisle at the bookstore...then you

> don't even have to buy the book. In either place he eplains that the

> substances in ASU occur in such minute quanitities in avocado and

> soybeans that you just couldn't eat enough to get a useful amount.

>

> If anybody else had recommended it, I probably wouldn't have noticed,

> but he's got a track record and was way out in front on glucosamine

> and chondroitin. I have no idea if it works. I'm not selling it,

> pitching it or recommending it. I hope it works, but I'm also still

> waiting for the word on what -- if any -- my resurf insurance will

> cover. And whatever happens, I'm expecting/hoping that resurfacing

> is my future.

>

> I posted the message because somebody who may know something (and who

> certainly seems to know a lot more than I) has written something that

> may be important to other people here, even if it's too late for me.

>

> Alan

>

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