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Hi everyone,

I've been trying to answer some questions for others about EDS and

the benefits of massage, and I've run across a few questions, so

please bear with me. You would think that after all these years,

that I would understand all there is to this condition, but not true!

Anyway, here are my questions. Any answers or articles giving

answers to the questions would be appreciated. Thanks a lot!!!

If it is true that the facia in EDSers is stretchier than tissue

of 'regular' people, why would it be that it can become restricted,

especially in people with Hypermobile EDS? If one of the problems

with EDS is that wounds don't hold stitches easily, wouldn't that

mean that the connective tissue is looser? If that is the case,

would the stretching of the facia cause more harm than good, and why

or why not? I know adhesions can cause problems for anyone - do we

as EDSers have more or less adhesions than the general public, and

again, does anyone know why or why not?

I appreciate the input guys!

Love Lana

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If it is true that the facia in EDSers is stretchier than tissue

of 'regular' people, why would it be that it can become restricted,

especially in people with Hypermobile EDS? If one of the problems

with EDS is that wounds don't hold stitches easily, wouldn't that

mean that the connective tissue is looser? If that is the case,

would the stretching of the facia cause more harm than good, and why

or why not? I know adhesions can cause problems for anyone - do we

as EDSers have more or less adhesions than the general public, and

again, does anyone know why or why not?

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To begin with, you need to remember that fascia comes in different

types and degrees of solidity. It is literally one continuous sheet

that wraps and entwines every muscle, bone, and organ in the body.

Its consistency varies from almost watery over the eyeballs to very

dense gristle in the low back, and every degree in between.

Secondly, hypermobility refers to excessive range of motion in the

joints. The joints are affected by tendons and ligaments. These

are also connective tissue, but with different consistency than

the " fascia " that gets restricted.

So yes, you can have excessively loose connective tissue at the

joints causing hypermobility while at the same time having areas in

your body of fascial restrictions.

As for adhesions, these can be scar tissue or simply areas where the

fascia enveloping adjacent tissues (such as muscles) become glued

together, preventing the normal slide and glide of one muscle

against the other. I suspect that adhesions may be more common in

the EDS population but don't know for certain. I do know for

certain that they definitely are more common in those with multiple

surgeries.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks Mike, that does help. I should have just sent it to you, but

I know how busy you are! :) Thanks again! Oh - are you with Sis

yet?

Love Lana

> To begin with, you need to remember that fascia comes in different

> types and degrees of solidity. It is literally one continuous

sheet

> that wraps and entwines every muscle, bone, and organ in the body.

> Its consistency varies from almost watery over the eyeballs to very

> dense gristle in the low back, and every degree in between.

>

> Secondly, hypermobility refers to excessive range of motion in the

> joints. The joints are affected by tendons and ligaments. These

> are also connective tissue, but with different consistency than

> the " fascia " that gets restricted.

>

> So yes, you can have excessively loose connective tissue at the

> joints causing hypermobility while at the same time having areas in

> your body of fascial restrictions.

>

> As for adhesions, these can be scar tissue or simply areas where

the

> fascia enveloping adjacent tissues (such as muscles) become glued

> together, preventing the normal slide and glide of one muscle

> against the other. I suspect that adhesions may be more common in

> the EDS population but don't know for certain. I do know for

> certain that they definitely are more common in those with multiple

> surgeries.

>

> Hope this helps.

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Thanks Mike, that does help. I should have just sent it to you, but

I know how busy you are! :) Thanks again! Oh - are you with Sis

yet?

Love Lana

> To begin with, you need to remember that fascia comes in different

> types and degrees of solidity. It is literally one continuous

sheet

> that wraps and entwines every muscle, bone, and organ in the body.

> Its consistency varies from almost watery over the eyeballs to very

> dense gristle in the low back, and every degree in between.

>

> Secondly, hypermobility refers to excessive range of motion in the

> joints. The joints are affected by tendons and ligaments. These

> are also connective tissue, but with different consistency than

> the " fascia " that gets restricted.

>

> So yes, you can have excessively loose connective tissue at the

> joints causing hypermobility while at the same time having areas in

> your body of fascial restrictions.

>

> As for adhesions, these can be scar tissue or simply areas where

the

> fascia enveloping adjacent tissues (such as muscles) become glued

> together, preventing the normal slide and glide of one muscle

> against the other. I suspect that adhesions may be more common in

> the EDS population but don't know for certain. I do know for

> certain that they definitely are more common in those with multiple

> surgeries.

>

> Hope this helps.

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I should have just sent it to you, but I know how busy you are! :)

Thanks again! Oh - are you with Sis yet?

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Yes we are. We got in about 4:00 this afternoon - three hours later

than planned thanks to another lousy *&(@)*&U tire that tried to

ruin our day about five miles south of the Oklahoma-Texas border.

We were able to change to the spare but no one there or in Denton

had the right sizes so we are driving at the moment with no spare.

Hopefully, we will be able to remedy that tomorrow here in Sulphur

Springs.

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I should have just sent it to you, but I know how busy you are! :)

Thanks again! Oh - are you with Sis yet?

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Yes we are. We got in about 4:00 this afternoon - three hours later

than planned thanks to another lousy *&(@)*&U tire that tried to

ruin our day about five miles south of the Oklahoma-Texas border.

We were able to change to the spare but no one there or in Denton

had the right sizes so we are driving at the moment with no spare.

Hopefully, we will be able to remedy that tomorrow here in Sulphur

Springs.

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OH NO!!! I hope it wasn't one you bought here?! You've had some bad

luck on this trip - hope it goes smoothly from here on, Mike.

Love Lana

- three hours later

> than planned thanks to another lousy *&(@)*&U tire that tried to

> ruin our day about five miles south of the Oklahoma-Texas border.

> We were able to change to the spare but no one there or in Denton

> had the right sizes so we are driving at the moment with no spare.

>

> Hopefully, we will be able to remedy that tomorrow here in Sulphur

> Springs.

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OH NO!!! I hope it wasn't one you bought here?! You've had some bad

luck on this trip - hope it goes smoothly from here on, Mike.

Love Lana

- three hours later

> than planned thanks to another lousy *&(@)*&U tire that tried to

> ruin our day about five miles south of the Oklahoma-Texas border.

> We were able to change to the spare but no one there or in Denton

> had the right sizes so we are driving at the moment with no spare.

>

> Hopefully, we will be able to remedy that tomorrow here in Sulphur

> Springs.

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OH NO!!! I hope it wasn't one you bought here?!

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No, it was one of the rear tires this time. But enough is enough -

we are getting all four rear tires replaced while we are here.

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I sure don't blame you for that, Mike! Better to have you both safe!

Here's hoping no more problems crop up for you. Hi to Darlene! Are

you taking pictures Darlene? :)

Love Lana

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> No, it was one of the rear tires this time. But enough is enough -

> we are getting all four rear tires replaced while we are here.

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