Re: RE:Pesticides & Depression

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I agree.

Additionally -

Besides pesticides, agricultural workers may also have other chemical

exposures that impact behavioral health, e.g. solvents and gases (low levels

of carbon monoxide).

At a wedding, about 10 years ago a green house owner told me about serious

mental health problems he had had several years earlier that turned out to

be caused by his pesticide. When he changed his pesticide, his mental

health problems went away. His primary provider had known him for years

and what he did, maybe even had come to his worksite to buy plants. His

physician tried several medications, but he kept getting sicker. The farmer

himself made the connection himself when attending a seminar that included

information on the pesticide he was using. As he told me, " right up on the

overhead they listed the side effects of the pesticide I was using " and it

was what was happening to him. He went home, got the can and took it to his

Dr. They agreed it could be the cause. He changed pesticides and

recovered.

When people know what I do and that I am a nurse, they share all kinds of

stories.

Just my thoughts and nothing else -

Janet Ehlers, RN, MSN

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike Duke [mailto:miked@...]

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:19 PM

Subject: [ ] RE:Pesticides & Depression

Compañeros/as:

The research cited by on the role of pesticides as a

contributing factor to depression is very interesting and important. Those

of us who study behavioral health issues among farmworkers focus a lot of

attention on their difficult working and living conditions as major

contributing factors to depression. I remain convinced that you can't

understand or provide interventions regarding farmworker depression without

focusing specifically on these conditions. However, if there are chemical

factors that exacerbate this situation, then this is truly a cause for

alarm for all members of this listserv since, as we all know, depression has

a negative effect on nearly all other aspects of health. Atentamente,

R. Duke, Ph.D.

Social Anthropologist

Director, Internship Program

Hispanic Health Council

175 Main Street

Hartford, CT 06106 USA

860.527.0856 x 252

FAX: 860.724.0437

miked@...

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Folks

It would be nice to know what type of chemical it was. Was it an

organophosphate?

Thanks

A

At 11:51 AM 9/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:

Thank you Janet. That's very

interesting. Have other folks heard similar things about chemicals

and depression from patients, etc?

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> I agree.

> Additionally -

> Besides pesticides, agricultural workers may also have other

chemical

> exposures that impact behavioral health, e.g. solvents and gases

(low levels

> of carbon monoxide).

>

> At a wedding, about 10 years ago a green house owner told me about

serious

> mental health problems he had had several years earlier that turned

out to

> be caused by his pesticide. When he changed his pesticide, his

mental

> health problems went away. His primary provider had

known him for years

> and what he did, maybe even had come to his worksite to buy

plants. His

> physician tried several medications, but he kept getting

sicker. The farmer

> himself made the connection himself when attending a seminar that

included

> information on the pesticide he was using. As he told me,

" right up on the

> overhead they listed the side effects of the pesticide I was

using " and it

> was what was happening to him. He went home, got the can and took it

to his

> Dr. They agreed it could be the cause. He changed

pesticides and

> recovered.

>

> When people know what I do and that I am a nurse, they share all

kinds of

> stories.

>

> Just my thoughts

and nothing else -

> Janet Ehlers, RN, MSN

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Mike Duke

[mailto:miked@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:19 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] RE:Pesticides &

Depression

>

>

> Compañeros/as:

> The research cited by on the role of pesticides as

a

> contributing factor to depression is very interesting and

important. Those

> of us who study behavioral health issues among farmworkers focus a

lot of

> attention on their difficult working and living conditions as

major

> contributing factors to depression. I remain convinced that

you can't

> understand or provide interventions regarding farmworker depression

without

> focusing specifically on these conditions. However, if there are

chemical

> factors that exacerbate this situation, then this is truly a

cause for

> alarm for all members of this listserv since, as we all know,

depression has

> a negative effect on nearly all other aspects of health.

Atentamente,

>

>

> R. Duke, Ph.D.

> Social Anthropologist

> Director, Internship Program

> Hispanic Health

Council

> 175 Main Street

> Hartford, CT 06106 USA

> 860.527.0856 x 252

> FAX: 860.724.0437

> miked@...

>

www.hispanichealth.com

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Here's a sample of what looks like a similar effect of various kinds of chemical

glues used in an auto parts factory:

" Submission 2000-01 raises issues concerning government enforcement of

occupational safety and health laws as they pertain to the use of chemicals in

the workplace. Workers at Auto Trim and Custom Trim/Breed Mexicana use glues

and solvents during the leather wrapping and finishing operations. The

submitters claim that products such as Sicomet 5019, Loctite, Hallmark 7158, and

Varsol are used. According

to information from manufacturers' Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDSs) gathered

by the submitters, the chemicals and compounds in use include ethyl

cyanoacrylate, polymethyl methacrylate, acetone, n-hexane and hexane, toluene,

magnesium oxide, nitromethane, trimethyl benzene and stoddard solvent.

The submitters allege that workers at the plants have developed illnesses and

diseases such as dermal irritations, respiratory irritations, eye damage, and

CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSION and other effects due to the unsafe use of

these chemicals. " [emphasis on central nervous system depression added].

See: http://www.dol.gov/ILAB/media/reports/nao/pubrep2000-1.htm#7a1

>>> aunterbe@... 09/27/02 04:44PM >>>

Folks

It would be nice to know what type of chemical it was. Was it an

organophosphate?

Thanks

A

At 11:51 AM 9/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>Thank you Janet. That's very interesting. Have other folks heard similar

>things about chemicals and depression from patients, etc?

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> > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:45:04 -0400

> > From: " Ehlers, Janet J. " <jje0@...>

> > Subject: RE: RE:Pesticides & Depression

> >

> > I agree.

> > Additionally -

> > Besides pesticides, agricultural workers may also have other chemical

> > exposures that impact behavioral health, e.g. solvents and gases (low

> levels

> > of carbon monoxide).

> >

> > At a wedding, about 10 years ago a green house owner told me about serious

> > mental health problems he had had several years earlier that turned out to

> > be caused by his pesticide. When he changed his pesticide, his mental

> > health problems went away. His primary provider had known him for years

> > and what he did, maybe even had come to his worksite to buy plants. His

> > physician tried several medications, but he kept getting sicker. The

> farmer

> > himself made the connection himself when attending a seminar that included

> > information on the pesticide he was using. As he told me, " right up on the

> > overhead they listed the side effects of the pesticide I was using " and it

> > was what was happening to him. He went home, got the can and took it to his

> > Dr. They agreed it could be the cause. He changed pesticides and

> > recovered.

> >

> > When people know what I do and that I am a nurse, they share all kinds of

> > stories.

> >

> > Just my thoughts and nothing else -

> > Janet Ehlers, RN, MSN

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Mike Duke [mailto:miked@...]

> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:19 PM

> >

> > Subject: [ ] RE:Pesticides & Depression

> >

> >

> > Compañeros/as:

> > The research cited by on the role of pesticides as a

> > contributing factor to depression is very interesting and important. Those

> > of us who study behavioral health issues among farmworkers focus a lot of

> > attention on their difficult working and living conditions as major

> > contributing factors to depression. I remain convinced that you can't

> > understand or provide interventions regarding farmworker depression without

> > focusing specifically on these conditions. However, if there are chemical

> > factors that exacerbate this situation, then this is truly a cause for

> > alarm for all members of this listserv since, as we all know,

> depression has

> > a negative effect on nearly all other aspects of health. Atentamente,

> >

> >

> > R. Duke, Ph.D.

> > Social Anthropologist

> > Director, Internship Program

> > Hispanic Health Council

> > 175 Main Street

> > Hartford, CT 06106 USA

> > 860.527.0856 x 252

> > FAX: 860.724.0437

> > miked@...

> > www.hispanichealth.com

> >

> >

> >

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