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[Guest guest]

When Bob said Foreigners I assumed he meant anyone not born in Texas and

especially ones born in New Jersey.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

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(Office)

(Office Fax)

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I

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In a message dated 3/2/2011 9:02:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,

wes.ogilvie@... writes:

Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh,

wait a minute.

Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

Wes Ogilvie

Sent from my iPad

> So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

or with the same brush?

> Rick

>

> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

>

> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

Texas'

> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

their

> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

>

> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

brush,

> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

are

> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

to

> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> ambulance operators.

>

> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

DSHS

> to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

as

> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

license.

> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

>

> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

>

> Bob

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

that

> > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

employees

> > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

agree

> > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

moved

> > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

list,

> > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> > McGee, EMT-P

> >

> >

> > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker "

haussecker87@...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Ron

> > >

> > >

> >

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Me too and since I am from Arizona I am guessing that I wouldn't qualify to own

an ambulance company.

Rick

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf

Of lnmolino@...

Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:06 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding them dry >

Corpu...

When Bob said Foreigners I assumed he meant anyone not born in Texas and

especially ones born in New Jersey.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless

I

specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential

materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

domain by the original author.

In a message dated 3/2/2011 9:02:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,

wes.ogilvie@... writes:

Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh,

wait a minute.

Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

Wes Ogilvie

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:00,

rick.moore@... wrote:

> So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

or with the same brush?

> Rick

>

> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

>

> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

Texas'

> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

their

> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

>

> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

brush,

> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

are

> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

to

> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> ambulance operators.

>

> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

DSHS

> to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

as

> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

license.

> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

>

> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

>

> Bob

>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:30 AM, McGee

summedic@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

that

> > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

employees

> > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

agree

> > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

moved

> > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

list,

> > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> > McGee, EMT-P

> >

> >

> > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker "

haussecker87@...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Ron

> > >

> > >

> >

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Did I mention " eye-poking? " Oh thats right - I did.

>

>

> Me too and since I am from Arizona I am guessing that I wouldn't qualify to

> own an ambulance company.

> Rick

>

> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

> Behalf Of lnmolino@...

> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:06 AM

> To: texasems-l

> Subject: Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding them

> dry > Corpu...

>

> When Bob said Foreigners I assumed he meant anyone not born in Texas and

> especially ones born in New Jersey.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

>

> LNMolino@...

>

> (Cell Phone)

> (Office)

> (Office Fax)

>

> " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

> the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

> organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

> unless I

> specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

> for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential

> materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

> domain by the original author.

>

> In a message dated 3/2/2011 9:02:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,

> wes.ogilvie@... writes:

>

> Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh,

> wait a minute.

>

> Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

>

> Wes Ogilvie

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:00, rick.moore@...

rick.moore%40stdavids.com> wrote:

>

> > So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

> should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

> or with the same brush?

> > Rick

> >

> > Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> >

> > These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> > being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> > either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> Texas'

> > weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> their

> > favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> >

> > It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> brush,

> > as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> are

> > squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

> to

> > distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> > ambulance operators.

> >

> > The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> > operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> > decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> > opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> DSHS

> > to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> > criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

> as

> > the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> license.

> > At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> >

> > We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> > spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> >

> > Bob

> >

> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:30 AM, McGee summedic@...

summedic%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> that

> > > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> employees

> > > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> agree

> > > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> moved

> > > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> list,

> > > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > McGee, EMT-P

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker "

> haussecker87@...>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Ron

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Did I mention " eye-poking? " Oh thats right - I did.

>

>

> Me too and since I am from Arizona I am guessing that I wouldn't qualify to

> own an ambulance company.

> Rick

>

> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

> Behalf Of lnmolino@...

> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:06 AM

> To: texasems-l

> Subject: Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding them

> dry > Corpu...

>

> When Bob said Foreigners I assumed he meant anyone not born in Texas and

> especially ones born in New Jersey.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

>

> LNMolino@...

>

> (Cell Phone)

> (Office)

> (Office Fax)

>

> " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

> the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

> organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

> unless I

> specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

> for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential

> materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

> domain by the original author.

>

> In a message dated 3/2/2011 9:02:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,

> wes.ogilvie@... writes:

>

> Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh,

> wait a minute.

>

> Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

>

> Wes Ogilvie

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:00, rick.moore@...

rick.moore%40stdavids.com> wrote:

>

> > So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

> should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

> or with the same brush?

> > Rick

> >

> > Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> >

> > These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> > being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> > either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> Texas'

> > weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> their

> > favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> >

> > It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> brush,

> > as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> are

> > squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

> to

> > distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> > ambulance operators.

> >

> > The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> > operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> > decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> > opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> DSHS

> > to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> > criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

> as

> > the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> license.

> > At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> >

> > We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> > spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> >

> > Bob

> >

> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:30 AM, McGee summedic@...

summedic%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> that

> > > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> employees

> > > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> agree

> > > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> moved

> > > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> list,

> > > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > McGee, EMT-P

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker "

> haussecker87@...>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Ron

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Of course you wouldn't', Rick, because your name isn't Rural/Metro.

Now, Texas folks, if you want to become the hardest place to get an ambulance

license, all you have to do is pass a Certificate of Need law like we have in

AZ. We do not have a problem with proliferation of EMS services, but neither do

we have high quality EMS for the most part.

GG

Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

>

> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

Texas'

> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

their

> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

>

> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

brush,

> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

are

> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

to

> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> ambulance operators.

>

> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

DSHS

> to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

as

> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

license.

> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

>

> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

>

> Bob

>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:30 AM, McGee

summedic@...>; wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

that

> > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

employees

> > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

agree

> > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

moved

> > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

list,

> > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> > McGee, EMT-P

> >

> >

> > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker "

haussecker87@...>;

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Ron

> > >

> > >

> >

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > >

> > >