Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 May I add a few belated comments to the discussion of Assessment. Bobbi's call for ideas on Needs Assessment asked for " a guide " (plan). My impression is that some folks may be moving toward reducing this call to instrument development, which would be more appropriate for a later stage than the call " to locate. " I am inclined to view an instrument as one component of a plan (guide) that informs the process of doing an assessment " to locate. " An instrument of any kind needs tailoring to fit the local circumstances. I don't believe that one instrument will fit all situations across the country. It might, if other methods are included in the process. At least one colleague at the Western Stream Forum I heard used the concept of Triangulation, which means multiple-methods, multiple-techniques for collecting data, which in this instance might include an instrument (or short instruments based on multiple techniques), that is combined with other methods to collect data. Multiple methods may include existing data sets such as time-depth records that show worker increases from agro-companies, security commissions, contractor licensing, camp inspection units, etc, as well as markers of demographic shifts such as recent Latino tiendas, comedores and negocios; misas in Spanish; bailes at Armories; remittance services; Spanish language newspapers (open the paper to look for a column in an indigenous tongue) and, occasionally, new Spanish language radio stations. This demographic shift may include full-time year-round farmworkers, and these markers definitely suggest permanency within the local population: one can learn even more by getting out from behind the windshield to talk with these folks on their locale. Key words beyond Needs Assessment include Community Assessment (a favorite of disciplines like Public Health) and Rapid Appraisal or Rapid Assessment (a favorite of several disciplines), as well as derivatives of these terms. Each might include participant-as-consultant geo-mapping among other methods to facilitate the process of local input on locating farmworkers, ascertaining duration in locale, and identifying types of work. Difference in terminology is little more than theoretical turf boundaries. The bigger issue, I believe, is assessing the situation before or simultaneous to locating and assessing " the community, " hence the need for a guide (plan), before designing data collection methods. One other key word that has been missing from the discussion (unless it occurred in situations I missed at the Forum) is " hidden populations, " a recent variation of hard-to-reach. Folks who do hidden population research started with the dilemma of locating their population of interest; more recently they have been developing statistical methods that permit statements of reliability that parallel those of population-based research. Population-based research is the gold standard and it can include the two types of assessment to which Bobbi refers, but its possibility is less likely in areas where prior research with farmworkers has not been done and/or where one is trying to locate farmworkers. Population-based research becomes easier as farmworkers are located. Those who have worked with the gold standard in farmwork research (we thank Don, Matt and for keeping things on track) should be included in the discussion to select, incorporate, or adjust the most effective methods to identify locales and types of work, and ascertain work duration. The " path of least resistance " in focusing on full-time year-round farmworkers is appropriate for the task. It would be nice if secondary assessment of the derived materials --funds, time and staff permitting– included a brief appraisal of the situation of those farmworkers who fall outside this scenario. I wonder if all full-time year-round farmworkers will be segregated occupationally and residentially for an easy survey and/or quick appraisal by locale-experts. I don't believe this will be the case; at least in some areas with which I'm familiar, full-time year-round are mixed with part-time and seasonal, and sometimes both these are mixed with occasional and sporadic. Thankfully, farmworkers other than full-time year-round are served by programs whose mandate defines the population differently. Building their capacity to better serve would be useful in tandem to the present endeavor, and most likely would be cost-effective over long-term. V Bletzer. Dep of Anthropology, Arizona State University. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 I understand that in California, Hmong are doing a significant amount of farm work. >>> keith.bletzer@... 02/06/02 07:04AM >>> May I add a few belated comments to the discussion of Assessment. Bobbi's call for ideas on Needs Assessment asked for " a guide " (plan). My impression is that some folks may be moving toward reducing this call to instrument development, which would be more appropriate for a later stage than the call " to locate. " I am inclined to view an instrument as one component of a plan (guide) that informs the process of doing an assessment " to locate. " An instrument of any kind needs tailoring to fit the local circumstances. I don't believe that one instrument will fit all situations across the country. It might, if other methods are included in the process. At least one colleague at the Western Stream Forum I heard used the concept of Triangulation, which means multiple-methods, multiple-techniques for collecting data, which in this instance might include an instrument (or short instruments based on multiple techniques), that is combined with other methods to collect data. Multiple methods may include existing data sets such as time-depth records that show worker increases from agro-companies, security commissions, contractor licensing, camp inspection units, etc, as well as markers of demographic shifts such as recent Latino tiendas, comedores and negocios; misas in Spanish; bailes at Armories; remittance services; Spanish language newspapers (open the paper to look for a column in an indigenous tongue) and, occasionally, new Spanish language radio stations. This demographic shift may include full-time year-round farmworkers, and these markers definitely suggest permanency within the local population: one can learn even more by getting out from behind the windshield to talk with these folks on their locale. Key words beyond Needs Assessment include Community Assessment (a favorite of disciplines like Public Health) and Rapid Appraisal or Rapid Assessment (a favorite of several disciplines), as well as derivatives of these terms. Each might include participant-as-consultant geo-mapping among other methods to facilitate the process of local input on locating farmworkers, ascertaining duration in locale, and identifying types of work. Difference in terminology is little more than theoretical turf boundaries. The bigger issue, I believe, is assessing the situation before or simultaneous to locating and assessing " the community, " hence the need for a guide (plan), before designing data collection methods. One other key word that has been missing from the discussion (unless it occurred in situations I missed at the Forum) is " hidden populations, " a recent variation of hard-to-reach. Folks who do hidden population research started with the dilemma of locating their population of interest; more recently they have been developing statistical methods that permit statements of reliability that parallel those of population-based research. Population-based research is the gold standard and it can include the two types of assessment to which Bobbi refers, but its possibility is less likely in areas where prior research with farmworkers has not been done and/or where one is trying to locate farmworkers. Population-based research becomes easier as farmworkers are located. Those who have worked with the gold standard in farmwork research (we thank Don, Matt and for keeping things on track) should be included in the discussion to select, incorporate, or adjust the most effective methods to identify locales and types of work, and ascertain work duration. The " path of least resistance " in focusing on full-time year-round farmworkers is appropriate for the task. It would be nice if secondary assessment of the derived materials --funds, time and staff permitting included a brief appraisal of the situation of those farmworkers who fall outside this scenario. I wonder if all full-time year-round farmworkers will be segregated occupationally and residentially for an easy survey and/or quick appraisal by locale-experts. I don't believe this will be the case; at least in some areas with which I'm familiar, full-time year-round are mixed with part-time and seasonal, and sometimes both these are mixed with occasional and sporadic. Thankfully, farmworkers other than full-time year-round are served by programs whose mandate defines the population differently. Building their capacity to better serve would be useful in tandem to the present endeavor, and most likely would be cost-effective over long-term. V Bletzer. Dep of Anthropology, Arizona State University. To Post a message, send it to: Groups To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Hi, just a couple of thoughts on needs assessment. Thank you Beltzer your comments are always helpful. Lets don't forget that a well designed instrument still presents problems to people who have low literacy levels. Focus groups and ethnographic interviews are alternative methods of collecting important data, however they don't lend themselves to quanitiative research. I really appreciate this network and was please to see many of your at the Stream forum conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 This was as usual a very thoughtful summary analysis by . Just a couple of points. Don Villarejo was very aware of these issues regarding hidden populations, etc. when setting up the CAWHS research design. To maximize access to these folks the approach included (1) an enumeration of all possible living quarters in the target area and (2) conducting the field research at the time of peak labor demand. One of the largest challenges I found in managing the CAWHS was achieving the second objective, especially towards the end of the project and we were in the final three regional sites. The first objective was based on a lot of shoe leather work--what we geographers call ground truthing, I will always remember going out the first week on the job with Don in Vista (San Diego County) and walking the target neighborhoods (census block groups) and looking for alternative living quarters to add to the sample frame. In that area we found that a number of workers were camping out in the hills near the large nursery firms. We accessed these workers at the pickup sites where they would congregate rather than beating the brush. Rick Mines and Mullenax are again doing work in the north San Diego Co. region and is working with growers to gain better access to labor camps, trailers, and in some cases, caves. These factors/challenges are one of the reasons why the NAWS has used growers as a point of contact with workers, in conjuction with seasonal timing. But again all of this is based on the California landscape and many of you face a situation where farmworker residence patterns are more diffuse. Regards, Lighthall Ph.D. Executive Director California Institute for Rural Studies 221 G Street, Suite 204 , CA 95616 Tel: (530)756-6555 Fax: (530)756-7429 dlighthall@... www.cirsinc.org -----Original Message----- From: V Bletzer [mailto:keith.bletzer@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:00 AM Subject: [ ] more on Assessment May I add a few belated comments to the discussion of Assessment. Bobbi's call for ideas on Needs Assessment asked for " a guide " (plan). My impression is that some folks may be moving toward reducing this call to instrument development, which would be more appropriate for a later stage than the call " to locate. " I am inclined to view an instrument as one component of a plan (guide) that informs the process of doing an assessment " to locate. " An instrument of any kind needs tailoring to fit the local circumstances. I don't believe that one instrument will fit all situations across the country. It might, if other methods are included in the process. At least one colleague at the Western Stream Forum I heard used the concept of Triangulation, which means multiple-methods, multiple-techniques for collecting data, which in this instance might include an instrument (or short instruments based on multiple techniques), that is combined with other methods to collect data. Multiple methods may include existing data sets such as time-depth records that show worker increases from agro-companies, security commissions, contractor licensing, camp inspection units, etc, as well as markers of demographic shifts such as recent Latino tiendas, comedores and negocios; misas in Spanish; bailes at Armories; remittance services; Spanish language newspapers (open the paper to look for a column in an indigenous tongue) and, occasionally, new Spanish language radio stations. This demographic shift may include full-time year-round farmworkers, and these markers definitely suggest permanency within the local population: one can learn even more by getting out from behind the windshield to talk with these folks on their locale. Key words beyond Needs Assessment include Community Assessment (a favorite of disciplines like Public Health) and Rapid Appraisal or Rapid Assessment (a favorite of several disciplines), as well as derivatives of these terms. Each might include participant-as-consultant geo-mapping among other methods to facilitate the process of local input on locating farmworkers, ascertaining duration in locale, and identifying types of work. Difference in terminology is little more than theoretical turf boundaries. The bigger issue, I believe, is assessing the situation before or simultaneous to locating and assessing " the community, " hence the need for a guide (plan), before designing data collection methods. One other key word that has been missing from the discussion (unless it occurred in situations I missed at the Forum) is " hidden populations, " a recent variation of hard-to-reach. Folks who do hidden population research started with the dilemma of locating their population of interest; more recently they have been developing statistical methods that permit statements of reliability that parallel those of population-based research. Population-based research is the gold standard and it can include the two types of assessment to which Bobbi refers, but its possibility is less likely in areas where prior research with farmworkers has not been done and/or where one is trying to locate farmworkers. Population-based research becomes easier as farmworkers are located. Those who have worked with the gold standard in farmwork research (we thank Don, Matt and for keeping things on track) should be included in the discussion to select, incorporate, or adjust the most effective methods to identify locales and types of work, and ascertain work duration. The " path of least resistance " in focusing on full-time year-round farmworkers is appropriate for the task. It would be nice if secondary assessment of the derived materials --funds, time and staff permitting– included a brief appraisal of the situation of those farmworkers who fall outside this scenario. I wonder if all full-time year-round farmworkers will be segregated occupationally and residentially for an easy survey and/or quick appraisal by locale-experts. I don't believe this will be the case; at least in some areas with which I'm familiar, full-time year-round are mixed with part-time and seasonal, and sometimes both these are mixed with occasional and sporadic. Thankfully, farmworkers other than full-time year-round are served by programs whose mandate defines the population differently. Building their capacity to better serve would be useful in tandem to the present endeavor, and most likely would be cost-effective over long-term. V Bletzer. Dep of Anthropology, Arizona State University. To Post a message, send it to: Groups To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 This depends on what you mean by significant. I don't have any hard data but relative to Latino workers, it is a pretty small fraction. A number of the Hmong are farmers, and many others aspire to such. They are concentrated in the Fresno area. A colleague of mine, Ida Jeter, of Aguirre International is doing collaborative research with this group so I will pass this on to her. Regards, -----Original Message----- From: G ABRAMS [mailto:nancy.g.abrams@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:38 AM keith.bletzer@...; Subject: Re: [ ] more on Assessment I understand that in California, Hmong are doing a significant amount of farm work. >>> keith.bletzer@... 02/06/02 07:04AM >>> May I add a few belated comments to the discussion of Assessment. Bobbi's call for ideas on Needs Assessment asked for " a guide " (plan). My impression is that some folks may be moving toward reducing this call to instrument development, which would be more appropriate for a later stage than the call " to locate. " I am inclined to view an instrument as one component of a plan (guide) that informs the process of doing an assessment " to locate. " An instrument of any kind needs tailoring to fit the local circumstances. I don't believe that one instrument will fit all situations across the country. It might, if other methods are included in the process. At least one colleague at the Western Stream Forum I heard used the concept of Triangulation, which means multiple-methods, multiple-techniques for collecting data, which in this instance might include an instrument (or short instruments based on multiple techniques), that is combined with other methods to collect data. Multiple methods may include existing data sets such as time-depth records that show worker increases from agro-companies, security commissions, contractor licensing, camp inspection units, etc, as well as markers of demographic shifts such as recent Latino tiendas, comedores and negocios; misas in Spanish; bailes at Armories; remittance services; Spanish language newspapers (open the paper to look for a column in an indigenous tongue) and, occasionally, new Spanish language radio stations. This demographic shift may include full-time year-round farmworkers, and these markers definitely suggest permanency within the local population: one can learn even more by getting out from behind the windshield to talk with these folks on their locale. Key words beyond Needs Assessment include Community Assessment (a favorite of disciplines like Public Health) and Rapid Appraisal or Rapid Assessment (a favorite of several disciplines), as well as derivatives of these terms. Each might include participant-as-consultant geo-mapping among other methods to facilitate the process of local input on locating farmworkers, ascertaining duration in locale, and identifying types of work. Difference in terminology is little more than theoretical turf boundaries. The bigger issue, I believe, is assessing the situation before or simultaneous to locating and assessing " the community, " hence the need for a guide (plan), before designing data collection methods. One other key word that has been missing from the discussion (unless it occurred in situations I missed at the Forum) is " hidden populations, " a recent variation of hard-to-reach. Folks who do hidden population research started with the dilemma of locating their population of interest; more recently they have been developing statistical methods that permit statements of reliability that parallel those of population-based research. Population-based research is the gold standard and it can include the two types of assessment to which Bobbi refers, but its possibility is less likely in areas where prior research with farmworkers has not been done and/or where one is trying to locate farmworkers. Population-based research becomes easier as farmworkers are located. Those who have worked with the gold standard in farmwork research (we thank Don, Matt and for keeping things on track) should be included in the discussion to select, incorporate, or adjust the most effective methods to identify locales and types of work, and ascertain work duration. The " path of least resistance " in focusing on full-time year-round farmworkers is appropriate for the task. It would be nice if secondary assessment of the derived materials --funds, time and staff permitting included a brief appraisal of the situation of those farmworkers who fall outside this scenario. I wonder if all full-time year-round farmworkers will be segregated occupationally and residentially for an easy survey and/or quick appraisal by locale-experts. I don't believe this will be the case; at least in some areas with which I'm familiar, full-time year-round are mixed with part-time and seasonal, and sometimes both these are mixed with occasional and sporadic. Thankfully, farmworkers other than full-time year-round are served by programs whose mandate defines the population differently. Building their capacity to better serve would be useful in tandem to the present endeavor, and most likely would be cost-effective over long-term. V Bletzer. Dep of Anthropology, Arizona State University. To Post a message, send it to: Groups To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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