Guest guest Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011  Hi, On Halal meat. Carrion - from animals not freshly slaughtered - is a forbidden food. Likewise meat from an animal that has been strangled, beaten (to death), killed by a fall, gored (to death), savaged by a beast of prey (except by a human), all animals which hunt with claws (lion, eagle, panther, vulture etc.), and any animal that eats another animal, and a human eats it. For example a lion eats a deer, that makes the lion haraam(not permissible to eat) While non- Halal meat may be sold to non Muslims it will NOT be labelled as Halal meat. Many of the prohibitions are the same as the Jewish ones. And, the same as the Jewish code, forbidden foods may be eaten if the alternative is starvation. " However if there is no other food available then a Muslim is allowed to eat non-halal food. Surah 2:174 states: If one is forced because there is no other choice, neither craving nor transgressing, there is no sin on him." My Uncle (a white Anglo Saxon Protestant male) was a farmer for most of his life and would have been startled to have been told that the way he slaughtered sheep when necessary was cruel. I have watched him, and the animals were occasionally startled when their throats were cut but never panicked nor struggled. In fact there was a study done. In 1978, a study incorporating EEG (electroencephalograph) with electrodes surgically implanted on the skull of 17 sheep and 15 calves, and conducted by Wilhelm Schulze et al. at the University of Veterinary Medicine in Germany concluded that "the slaughter in the form of a ritual cut is, if carried out properly, painless in sheep and calves according to EEG recordings and the missing defensive actions" (of the animals) and that "For sheep, there were in part severe reactions both in bloodletting cut and the pain stimuli" when captive bolt stunning (CBS) was used.[13][17] This study is cited by the German Constitutional Court in its permitting of dhabiha slaughtering.[18] In other words, the stunning or 'tasering' of meat animals hurts them, a correctly carried out cut so that the animal bleeds out is relatively painless. I have watched "Food Inc" and it is an eye opener as far as 'normal' US practices is concerned. It would make me inclined to avoid any meat sold by supermarkets in the USA! The spiritual component is only a part of the Halal approach - relying upon prayer alone suggests that the butchers involved were not correctly trained. Although I am not a Muslim I would feel safe eating correctly slaughtered Halal meat. I would also feel quite safe eating correctly slaughtered meat from a non Halal butcher. Fwd: Fwd: Halal Products Both the Real Canadian Superstore and Loblaws in the Kanata area have a dedicated, ten foot cooler section in their meat departments devoted to Halal meat that is promoted under a green-coloured Halal banner; and it doesn't offer the shopper any insight into what Halal means or where it comes from.Read on. . . . . . and pass it on. While you're at it - check out the origin of frozen fish and shrimp packaged under the Sea Breeze and some other attractive labels at your local grocery. THIS IS COMING AND LOOK OUT FOR THIS INTRUSION IN U.S. and CANADIAN MARKETS. . . “Halal†meat. . . are you aware of this? Take a look and forward to your friends and family. DO NOT buy this meat!"Costco stocking their meat counters with "Halal" meat." I shopped for groceries at my local Wal-Mart. As usual, I bought a bag of frozen chicken breasts, but this time I checked to make sure the meat was not labeled "Halal." Here's why:Halal is the Islamic term that basically means the meat is lawful to eat for a devout Muslim. What makes it lawful or acceptable is that the meat has been processed in a very specific way. Unlike kosher food, where the physical processing of the meat is the focus, for Islam it is the spiritual component that makes the meat lawful.For lawful (halal) meat in Islam, the animal must be killed while the butcher faces Mecca , and either the butcher cries "Allah Akbar" or a tape plays the words over a loud speaker.Ann Barnhardt is a cattle commodities broker, has more about "Halal."NEVER buy meat that is marked as "Halal." I am in the cattle business, and believe me when I tell you that Halal kill plants are CONSTANTLY being cited and shut down by the USDA for horrific infractions. Most of these plants are in Michigan and upstate New York .One of the things that halal kill plants are notorious for is putting already-dead animals in the human consumption line. They will go pick up a dead cow off of a farm or ranch and instead of putting it in their rendering tank where the resulting "tankage" is worth pennies on the dollar as pet food or industrial products, they will shackle the dead animal on the normal kill line and process it as human food which is the highest-dollar product.Since Islam teaches dishonesty (taqiyyah) and no regard for one's neighbor, this kind of sickening behavior is standard.Halal plants are also notorious for general citations for filth and uncleanliness. I have toured normal cattle slaughter plants, and guys and gals, you could eat off of the floor. Everything is white and men and women walk around with water hoses and steam guns constantly keeping everything in a state of spotlessness.Halal plants are filthy. A lot of Halal meat is also labeled as "organic."Again, don't be fooled into thinking that "halal" means "better." It isn't. I would never, ever knowingly eat halal meat purely from a food safety perspective. 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