Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. Regards, Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma > recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt > too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... > -- > H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP > DIRECTOR > FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS > ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. Regards, Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma > recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt > too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... > -- > H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP > DIRECTOR > FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS > ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Well. IF. That were the case i would agree but with all we can do -pain meds short response time etc it doesnt make sense. Not that this person would-- but a lot folks dont worry about their bills so a free ride with narcotics provided???? Oh well however they seem to be doing very well so its all good!!! Ht Sent from my iPhone > It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. > > Regards, > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > > > > > >> i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma >> recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt >> too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... >> -- >> H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP >> DIRECTOR >> FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS >> ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Response times shouldnt matter. The whole free ride thing is money based not patient based. If your patient needs meds, which isnt based on weather or not your hurting, take care of your patient and give them the meds. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android-powered phone Homer T Fillingim hfillingim@...> wrote: >Well. IF. That were the case i would agree but with all we can do -pain meds short response time etc it doesnt make sense. Not that this person would-- but a lot folks dont worry about their bills so a free ride with narcotics provided???? Oh well however they seem to be doing very well so its all good!!! Ht > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >> It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. >> >> Regards, >> >> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma >>> recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt >>> too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... >>> -- >>> H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP >>> DIRECTOR >>> FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS >>> ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 >>> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Response times shouldnt matter. The whole free ride thing is money based not patient based. If your patient needs meds, which isnt based on weather or not your hurting, take care of your patient and give them the meds. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android-powered phone Homer T Fillingim hfillingim@...> wrote: >Well. IF. That were the case i would agree but with all we can do -pain meds short response time etc it doesnt make sense. Not that this person would-- but a lot folks dont worry about their bills so a free ride with narcotics provided???? Oh well however they seem to be doing very well so its all good!!! Ht > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >> It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. >> >> Regards, >> >> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma >>> recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt >>> too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... >>> -- >>> H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP >>> DIRECTOR >>> FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS >>> ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 >>> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 i understand and agree but being hospital based, all that starts in the field so they are getting what we can give prehospital..i guess my point was that i never heard of someone hurting so bad they could not call an ambulance..!ht > > > Response times shouldnt matter. The whole free ride thing is money based > not patient based. If your patient needs meds, which isnt based on > weather or not your hurting, take care of your patient and give them the > meds. > > Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android-powered phone > > Homer T Fillingim hfillingim@... > > wrote: > >>Well. IF. That were the case i would agree but with all we can do -pain > meds short response time etc it doesnt make sense. Not that this person > would-- but a lot folks dont worry about their bills so a free ride with > narcotics provided???? Oh well however they seem to be doing very well > so its all good!!! Ht >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>On Mar 8, 2012, at 9:51, Alyssa Woods amwoods8644@... > > wrote: >> >>> It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies > are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a > district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management > protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: > wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive > before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive > takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my > area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will > probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the > best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the > way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, > nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my > opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma >>>> recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt >>>> too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... >>>> -- >>>> H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP >>>> DIRECTOR >>>> FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS >>>> ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Bill Engvall has a sign for them. Louis N. Molino, Sr. Training Program Manager , Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc. (Office) (Office FAX) (Cell) Sent from ans types on my Samsung Captivate on AT&T. Please forgive any typos. " H.T. Fillingim " hfillingim@...> wrote: >i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma >recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt >too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... >-- >H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP >DIRECTOR >FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS >ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Bill Engvall has a sign for them. Louis N. Molino, Sr. Training Program Manager , Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc. (Office) (Office FAX) (Cell) Sent from ans types on my Samsung Captivate on AT&T. Please forgive any typos. " H.T. Fillingim " hfillingim@...> wrote: >i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma >recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt >too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... >-- >H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP >DIRECTOR >FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS >ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Your points valid but most CIVs wouldn't know thar. Louis N. Molino, Sr. Training Program Manager , Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc. (Office) (Office FAX) (Cell) Sent from ans types on my Samsung Captivate on AT&T. Please forgive any typos. Alyssa Woods amwoods8644@...> wrote: >It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. > >Regards, > >Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > > > > > >> i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma >> recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt >> too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... >> -- >> H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP >> DIRECTOR >> FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS >> ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Your points valid but most CIVs wouldn't know thar. Louis N. Molino, Sr. Training Program Manager , Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc. (Office) (Office FAX) (Cell) Sent from ans types on my Samsung Captivate on AT&T. Please forgive any typos. Alyssa Woods amwoods8644@...> wrote: >It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. > >Regards, > >Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > > > > > >> i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma >> recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt >> too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... >> -- >> H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP >> DIRECTOR >> FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS >> ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 If a monkey hits a bullseye with a dart, did he still get a bullseye? Regards, Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B (512)277-0508 > Your points valid but most CIVs wouldn't know thar. > > Louis N. Molino, Sr. Training Program Manager , Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc. (Office) (Office FAX) (Cell) Sent from ans types on my Samsung Captivate on AT&T. Please forgive any typos. > > Alyssa Woods amwoods8644@...> wrote: > > >It's easy to judge, but think about it this way - some EMS agencies are stingy with their pain meds. If I were in severe pain outside a district I know (and which I know to be good with pain management protocols), I probably wouldn't call EMS, I'd drive myself. Call EMS: wait 8 min for the ambulance, 8 - 30 min on scene time, plus the drive before you get any relief from it. Go Yourself: however long the drive takes. Also, you can probably go to an urgent care (most of which in my area have x-rays, and which ambulances can't take you to), which will probably be closer. Overall, if you're in severe pain, sometimes, the best choice probably is driving. I'm not saying it's right, nor it's the way it should be, nor that this is how it is in your particular area, nor that this phenomenon is completely isolated to EMS, but in my opinion, hospitals tend to be better with pain management. > > > >Regards, > > > >Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> i overheard a person telling someone that they had suffered some trauma > >> recently...when asked why they did not call ems....they said....i hurt > >> too bad.... just one more thing that makes you go hummmmmmmmm... > >> -- > >> H.T.FILLINGIM B.S. CCEMT-LP > >> DIRECTOR > >> FISHER COUNTY HOSPITAL DIST. EMS > >> ROTAN, TEXAS 79546 > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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