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If EMS would unite like other industries and stop buying anything with

J&J on it, they might get the message.....stop talking and take action,

hit them where it hurts!

Les

NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF

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Abraham Lincoln

" EMS does not save lives. God does! Our job is to entertain the patient

until He makes up his mind. " - Dr. Red Duke

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of rick.moore@...

Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 13:33

To: texasems-l

Subject: RE: &

Where do you find coffee for $1.35 these days?

From: texasems-l

[mailto:texasems-l

] On Behalf Of

Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:29 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: &

I fired off the email that started the discussion last time. I still do

not feel the commercial depicted nursing in true form and showed glory

scenes few nurses experience. If you look at numbers, most nurses work

in controlled environments (hosp, clinic, surg center, other clinical

areas etc) and most EMTs work in the field (out of hospital and less

controlled). There are exceptions both ways, but that is the exception,

not the rule. I think we try to compare apples to oranges sometime and

that will not work. Putting oranges in an apple box, as this commercial

does, is a disservice to both professions.

I have had the pleasure of working with great nurses and EMS personnel

in my 30+ year career. Part of what makes these people great is the

respect shown each other. I have also had the misfortune of working with

the misfits of each profession, thankfully the latter don't last long.

I am sure this thread can rage on and points can be made to support each

cause. As for this seasoned Paramedic, I have decided to grin and turn

away from the J&J commercial so the family does not have to hear my

comments ..... again.

A nice thing is that we can each take our opinion and a buck thirty five

and get a bad cup of coffee as we read these posts.

, Director

Seminole EMS

From: Wesley Ogilvie

Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 1:45 PM

To: paramedicine

Cc: texasems-l

Subject: &

A while back, I think I might have remembered a discussion thread on one

of these lists about & 's pro-nursing commercials showing

nurses performing EMS duties and roles on accident scenes and

ambulances. Does anyone remember if NAEMT or one of the other EMS

advocacy groups did any outreach to & to remind them of

the primary role that EMS plays in providing emergency medical care?

Just wondering,

-Wes Ogilvie

-Austin, Texas