Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Mr. Gandy, I can more than likely find out some information about the pacemaker on the patient that I recently transported, but probably not from the patient 8+ years ago. I will see what I can find out, and try to keep everyone updated. Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Could it be the quality of the driving? ck In a message dated 01/05/12 11:48:51 Central Standard Time, mdfinney@... writes: I have a question for the group about paced patients, have you ever witnessed or heard of this? I have had 2 occurrences in my career that while transporting a patient that has an internal pacemaker where the paced rhythm increases greatly while transporting the patient in an ambulance at highway speeds. Incident #1 occurred about 8 years ago while transporting a patient from a rural hospital to the Medical Center in Houston. When the patient was picked up at the hospital the patient's internal pacer was working and perfusing at a rate of 70 beats per minute. The patient was loaded and proceeded to to transport to Houston. While on the way I noticed that the patient's heart rate was fluctuating with the speed that the engine was turing, the faster the RPM's on the engine that faster the pacemaker would perfuse the patient. During that transport my partner advised that the battery light had come one the truck. All unnecessary electrical equipment was shut off to conserve energy knowing that the alternator was having problems. The fastest that the patient's heart rate sustained was 160 bpm paced rhythm and confirmed with radial pulses. The patient did not become symptomatic or express any concerns about the increase in heart rate. The patient was totally unaware of the condition. No change in blood pressure or pulse oximetry. Once we arrived to Houston the patient's paced heart rate returned to 70 bpm and remained there until we turned the patient over to the staff. At this time I thought is was due to the alternator failure until a week ago when I witnessed this same thing again. Incident #2 occurred this past week while transporting a patient about 15 miles from his residence to the hospital. The patient also had an internal pacemaker that was pacing a perfusion appropriately at 80 bpm. The patient was loaded and transported to the hospital and while transporting the heart rate increased to a paced rhythm and was perfusing with a radial pulse at 140 bpm. This was while on the freeway driving a 70mph. As with the patient before this patient was unaware of the increase in heart rate and non-symptomatic. Once we arrived into town and the speed of the truck slowed the heart rate slowed to 90 to 100 bpm. Once at the hospital and the patient was removed from the ambulance to the ER the patient's paced heart rate returned to 80 bpm. Side note this ambulance in only a few months old and did not nor has it had alternator problems since this patient was transported. I have noticed a slight increase in paced rhythms while transporting patient with internal pacemakers and not really thought much about it. Now that I know that it was probably not related to the alternator failure, are we causing this phenomenon by transporting our paced patient's in ambulances. Another thought being that since neither of these patient's were aware that it was going on, does this same thing happen while they are driving or riding in their own cars. Interested in seeing what everyone has to say about this. Marcus Finney, LP mdfinney@... ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Could it be the quality of the driving? ck In a message dated 01/05/12 11:48:51 Central Standard Time, mdfinney@... writes: I have a question for the group about paced patients, have you ever witnessed or heard of this? I have had 2 occurrences in my career that while transporting a patient that has an internal pacemaker where the paced rhythm increases greatly while transporting the patient in an ambulance at highway speeds. Incident #1 occurred about 8 years ago while transporting a patient from a rural hospital to the Medical Center in Houston. When the patient was picked up at the hospital the patient's internal pacer was working and perfusing at a rate of 70 beats per minute. The patient was loaded and proceeded to to transport to Houston. While on the way I noticed that the patient's heart rate was fluctuating with the speed that the engine was turing, the faster the RPM's on the engine that faster the pacemaker would perfuse the patient. During that transport my partner advised that the battery light had come one the truck. All unnecessary electrical equipment was shut off to conserve energy knowing that the alternator was having problems. The fastest that the patient's heart rate sustained was 160 bpm paced rhythm and confirmed with radial pulses. The patient did not become symptomatic or express any concerns about the increase in heart rate. The patient was totally unaware of the condition. No change in blood pressure or pulse oximetry. Once we arrived to Houston the patient's paced heart rate returned to 70 bpm and remained there until we turned the patient over to the staff. At this time I thought is was due to the alternator failure until a week ago when I witnessed this same thing again. Incident #2 occurred this past week while transporting a patient about 15 miles from his residence to the hospital. The patient also had an internal pacemaker that was pacing a perfusion appropriately at 80 bpm. The patient was loaded and transported to the hospital and while transporting the heart rate increased to a paced rhythm and was perfusing with a radial pulse at 140 bpm. This was while on the freeway driving a 70mph. As with the patient before this patient was unaware of the increase in heart rate and non-symptomatic. Once we arrived into town and the speed of the truck slowed the heart rate slowed to 90 to 100 bpm. Once at the hospital and the patient was removed from the ambulance to the ER the patient's paced heart rate returned to 80 bpm. Side note this ambulance in only a few months old and did not nor has it had alternator problems since this patient was transported. I have noticed a slight increase in paced rhythms while transporting patient with internal pacemakers and not really thought much about it. Now that I know that it was probably not related to the alternator failure, are we causing this phenomenon by transporting our paced patient's in ambulances. Another thought being that since neither of these patient's were aware that it was going on, does this same thing happen while they are driving or riding in their own cars. Interested in seeing what everyone has to say about this. Marcus Finney, LP mdfinney@... ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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