Guest guest Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 I have to make an appointment for blood tests this week, I sort of remember something about Iron tablets, do I quit them for a week before the ferritin test?? I am taking Ferrous Gluconate ( 34.7 elemental iron per tablet) 3 per day. Feritin in August was 4. 3.5 grains Thyroid daily. Still tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 In a message dated 2/19/2005 11:50:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@... writes: > You goal is to get over 60. Mine > was around 88 two months ago, and that is fabulous for me. I had to > take a LOT of iron to get there. janie, i was reading last night about ferrous sulfate interfering with the absorption of thyroid hormone. do you have any info on this? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 In a message dated 2/19/2005 11:50:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@... writes: > You goal is to get over 60. Mine > was around 88 two months ago, and that is fabulous for me. I had to > take a LOT of iron to get there. janie, i was reading last night about ferrous sulfate interfering with the absorption of thyroid hormone. do you have any info on this? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Gee, Friedman has me stop for a week prior to the test. Why do ypu say tay on? Re: Ferritin tests > I have to make an appointment for blood tests this week, I sort of > remember something about Iron tablets, do I quit them for a week > before the ferritin test?? Absolutely not. You will want to see if the iron you have been on has made much of an improvement. You goal is to get over 60. Mine was around 88 two months ago, and that is fabulous for me. I had to take a LOT of iron to get there. Your tiredness could be because your Ferritin is still low....but you'll see when you get the rest results back. Janie > > I am taking Ferrous Gluconate ( 34.7 elemental iron per tablet) > 3 per day. Feritin in August was 4. > > 3.5 grains Thyroid daily. Still tired. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Because isn't the point of taking iron to raise your Ferritin---and you want to see where in the range the iron supplementation has raised your Ferritin......or not, correct? So getting off of it for a week makes no sense to me. Dr. Janie > Gee, Friedman has me stop for a week prior to the test. Why do ypu say stay on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 he told me that he needed the iron puills stopped so he could see what red blood cells are doing, saturation, etc. That tells him if he needs to raise the dose, leave it alone for maintenance etc. In a week the ferritin level should be ok, but it will let him see the rest. Re: Ferritin tests Because isn't the point of taking iron to raise your Ferritin---and you want to see where in the range the iron supplementation has raised your Ferritin......or not, correct? So getting off of it for a week makes no sense to me. Dr. Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 > he told me that he needed the iron puills stopped so he could see what red blood cells are doing, saturation, etc. That tells him if he needs to raise the dose, leave it alone for maintenance etc. In a week the ferritin level should be ok, but it will let him see the rest. Mine never said a word about that. She always simply tests my Ferritin even when I am on pills. Ah well---maybe we can find good recommendations on the net about this. LOL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 It may be because he is trying to figure out why my red cells die and I need iron that he is doing this. I am off wheat, taking folic acid and we know it is not from b12 issues. Re: Ferritin tests > he told me that he needed the iron puills stopped so he could see what red blood cells are doing, saturation, etc. That tells him if he needs to raise the dose, leave it alone for maintenance etc. In a week the ferritin level should be ok, but it will let him see the rest. Mine never said a word about that. She always simply tests my Ferritin even when I am on pills. Ah well---maybe we can find good recommendations on the net about this. LOL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 In a message dated 2/20/2005 3:17:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cjoi@... writes: > I have wondered if supplementing with ferretin sources for those of us with > low ferritin stores of iron might be safer than supplementing with free-iron > chelates. Just wondering out loud... > explain to me what you just said here. ferrous sulfate is the usual for low ferritin, right? is that a free-iron chelate? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 In a message dated 2/20/2005 3:17:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cjoi@... writes: > I have wondered if supplementing with ferretin sources for those of us with > low ferritin stores of iron might be safer than supplementing with free-iron > chelates. Just wondering out loud... > explain to me what you just said here. ferrous sulfate is the usual for low ferritin, right? is that a free-iron chelate? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Not Janie, here, Cindi, just adding that some of us moms with kiddos with LDs have found this is part of the problem for our kiddos - iron overload (from iron supplements/fortification) and low thyroid (especially in the presence of low selenium to protect the thyroid). Pathogens viruses, bacteria, nanobacteria, yeasts and fungi, all love iron, too. I have wondered if supplementing with ferretin sources for those of us with low ferritin stores of iron might be safer than supplementing with free-iron chelates. Just wondering out loud... .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I am just jumping in here with a suggestion. LOL when I first started taking the supplements that the Iridologist put me on I needed iron. I used a plant source called IX by Nature's Sunshine. Perhaps a plant source iron would be better? More readily available without the problems? I hesitate to say anything as perhaps the ones you have mentioned are plant source. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** Not Janie, here, Cindi, just adding that some of us moms with kiddos with LDs have found this is part of the problem for our Sheila Bliesath StarGate Travel Phone: For more information on travel or becoming an agent info@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I am just jumping in here with a suggestion. LOL when I first started taking the supplements that the Iridologist put me on I needed iron. I used a plant source called IX by Nature's Sunshine. Perhaps a plant source iron would be better? More readily available without the problems? I hesitate to say anything as perhaps the ones you have mentioned are plant source. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** Not Janie, here, Cindi, just adding that some of us moms with kiddos with LDs have found this is part of the problem for our Sheila Bliesath StarGate Travel Phone: For more information on travel or becoming an agent info@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Cindi, Yes, it is a free® form of iron, commonly prescribed for anemia. What I was thinking is that ferretin, as in breast milk, is biologically compatible and is probably a safe source of iron supplementation. Supplementing with a form of ferretin - from raw goat's milk for example, might prevent iron circulating freely and unescorted in the body, hence, preventing free iron oxidative damage, and free iron available to virus/bacteria/fungus/cancer. Low serum iron (adequate ferretin) indicates an immune response called " sequestering " . Low ferretin or storage iron, indicates genuine anemia. People with both kinds of " low iron " are tired and have anemic symtoms but one person (low serum, adequate ferretin storage) already has enough iron, it's just that the body is trying to keep away from a chronic infection like Hashi's or Lyme or cancer or?? The other person (low ferretin storage iron) is really low in total iron and could benefit from supplementation. I'm just thinking that the " free iron " supplements might have unintended side effects that ferretin or even hemoglobin might not have. Iron supplements (not found in plants or animals in the form) are available in the following forms: Oral a.. Ferrous Fumarate b.. Ferrous Gluconate c.. Ferrous Sulfate d.. Iron-Polysaccharide e.. Iron Dextran a.. Injection f.. Iron Sorbitol a.. Injection g.. Iron Sucrose a.. Injection h.. Sodium Ferric Gluconate Complex a.. Injection Ferrous Lactate is also used as a supplement in wet products like infant formula. These are non-ferretin or non-hemoglobin sources of iron. One of the major sources of free dietary iron is the mandatory iron added to flour since War Food Order One in 1941 by President F.D. Roosevelt. An elementary science project is to use a magnet and pull out the iron filings in cream of wheat, for example... BTW, another seriously bad food additive in flour is bromine. Bromine replaced iodine supplementation in flour, several decades ago. Many of us have used brominated flour. Bromine occupies the places that iodine should occupy in a healthy person. Still in brain fog but... .... Re: Re: Ferritin tests In a message dated 2/20/2005 3:17:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cjoi@... writes: > I have wondered if supplementing with ferretin sources for those of us with > low ferritin stores of iron might be safer than supplementing with free-iron > chelates. Just wondering out loud... > explain to me what you just said here. ferrous sulfate is the usual for low ferritin, right? is that a free-iron chelate? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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