Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 In a message dated 2/27/2005 6:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, kholl45@... writes: > They say that with Hashi's your thyroid is enlarged...easily > detectable...is that right no. not always. you can have atrophic thyroiditis. i can remember one time in my 30s (i'm almost 50 now) noticing that my neck looked a little larger than usual...but evidently it went away. i've never had an enlarged neck since. I have hashi's. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 In a message dated 2/27/2005 6:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, kholl45@... writes: > They say that with Hashi's your thyroid is enlarged...easily > detectable...is that right no. not always. you can have atrophic thyroiditis. i can remember one time in my 30s (i'm almost 50 now) noticing that my neck looked a little larger than usual...but evidently it went away. i've never had an enlarged neck since. I have hashi's. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 In a message dated 2/27/2005 6:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, kholl45@... writes: > They say that with Hashi's your thyroid is enlarged...easily > detectable...is that right no. not always. you can have atrophic thyroiditis. i can remember one time in my 30s (i'm almost 50 now) noticing that my neck looked a little larger than usual...but evidently it went away. i've never had an enlarged neck since. I have hashi's. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 In a message dated 2/27/2005 8:40:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, kholl45@... writes: > I KNOW around here at least, I'll be wasting my money and end up > going from dr. to dr. again until I find one who will " cooperate " . > I get too frustrated at their ignorance, too. Maybe they will at > least order the blood work i fired the first doctor who diagnosed me. all he cared about was getting my TSH back in range. Free T4 had not even moved, but the TSH had dropped. Then i went to an endo listed on the top docs. haha. TSH obsessed too. Fired her. Decided I had to get well before i could even deal with another doctor. i read everything i could....came to this forum and learned everything I could....and I'm well on the way to recovery. as much recovery as one can get after being untreated for 15 - 25 years. it will be harder now for me to ever feel totally right. so anyway, after getting my mental capabilities back (i had gotten really really slow and dull and couldn't understand anything there for a while)...and getting some energy...i did search out another doctor. a holistic one. one that doesn't accept insurance. i like him. he doesn't know a heck of a lot about thyroid disease - but he's willing to work with me and willing to learn. that's better than all the doctors i have had in my entire lifetime. the point is - it's good to have a doctor. just don't expect miracles. and for sure don't leave it to a doctor to get you well. trust yourself to do the things to get you well. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 In a message dated 2/27/2005 8:40:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, kholl45@... writes: > I KNOW around here at least, I'll be wasting my money and end up > going from dr. to dr. again until I find one who will " cooperate " . > I get too frustrated at their ignorance, too. Maybe they will at > least order the blood work i fired the first doctor who diagnosed me. all he cared about was getting my TSH back in range. Free T4 had not even moved, but the TSH had dropped. Then i went to an endo listed on the top docs. haha. TSH obsessed too. Fired her. Decided I had to get well before i could even deal with another doctor. i read everything i could....came to this forum and learned everything I could....and I'm well on the way to recovery. as much recovery as one can get after being untreated for 15 - 25 years. it will be harder now for me to ever feel totally right. so anyway, after getting my mental capabilities back (i had gotten really really slow and dull and couldn't understand anything there for a while)...and getting some energy...i did search out another doctor. a holistic one. one that doesn't accept insurance. i like him. he doesn't know a heck of a lot about thyroid disease - but he's willing to work with me and willing to learn. that's better than all the doctors i have had in my entire lifetime. the point is - it's good to have a doctor. just don't expect miracles. and for sure don't leave it to a doctor to get you well. trust yourself to do the things to get you well. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Thanks, , Hashi's? I don't know much about it, but I looked in my Merck's manual last night to see what all they say about thyroid problems...ha..not much. They say that with Hashi's your thyroid is enlarged...easily detectable...is that right? Do you get what they call a " goiter " ?...or was that something else I was reading? Well, then, I don't think my thyroid is enlarged ... so I must not have Hashi's. I thought it interesting how little was printed about the treatment of thyroid disorders. Where did you find your new doctor? M.D.? or what? Kathy > Kathy, > You'll not only find moral support, here, you will find the kind of intelligent help that I used to think doctors were supposed to be capable of -- only much better because it's backed by years and years of experience, here. I'm real new to. I'm glad I had some lab work done in January because it turns out that I have thyroid anti-bodies so that means I have Hashimoto's Auto-Immune Thyroid (HAIT), or Hashi's. I got impatient with the so-called expert doc who was stringing me along and started trying an OTC glandular and I had now way of really controlling the dosage, although I started to feel great, fast. After about 2 weeks it looked like I needed a more intelligent, and measured (literally) approach and I changed docs. > The new doc ordered the rest of the right tests (Free T3, and adrenal 4Xday) finally. I'm waiting to start on a smarter, baby-step, course... Welcome! you're gonna love it, here, especially if you are even a bit more teachable and patient than I was! > > ... > > > > > ...or at least close to it? > You know, 'moral support'. > > Have you been " officially " diagnosed? Are you also on anything for > adrenal support? I'm not and not sure 100% if I should be, either. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Thanks, , Hashi's? I don't know much about it, but I looked in my Merck's manual last night to see what all they say about thyroid problems...ha..not much. They say that with Hashi's your thyroid is enlarged...easily detectable...is that right? Do you get what they call a " goiter " ?...or was that something else I was reading? Well, then, I don't think my thyroid is enlarged ... so I must not have Hashi's. I thought it interesting how little was printed about the treatment of thyroid disorders. Where did you find your new doctor? M.D.? or what? Kathy > Kathy, > You'll not only find moral support, here, you will find the kind of intelligent help that I used to think doctors were supposed to be capable of -- only much better because it's backed by years and years of experience, here. I'm real new to. I'm glad I had some lab work done in January because it turns out that I have thyroid anti-bodies so that means I have Hashimoto's Auto-Immune Thyroid (HAIT), or Hashi's. I got impatient with the so-called expert doc who was stringing me along and started trying an OTC glandular and I had now way of really controlling the dosage, although I started to feel great, fast. After about 2 weeks it looked like I needed a more intelligent, and measured (literally) approach and I changed docs. > The new doc ordered the rest of the right tests (Free T3, and adrenal 4Xday) finally. I'm waiting to start on a smarter, baby-step, course... Welcome! you're gonna love it, here, especially if you are even a bit more teachable and patient than I was! > > ... > > > > > ...or at least close to it? > You know, 'moral support'. > > Have you been " officially " diagnosed? Are you also on anything for > adrenal support? I'm not and not sure 100% if I should be, either. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Thanks, , Hashi's? I don't know much about it, but I looked in my Merck's manual last night to see what all they say about thyroid problems...ha..not much. They say that with Hashi's your thyroid is enlarged...easily detectable...is that right? Do you get what they call a " goiter " ?...or was that something else I was reading? Well, then, I don't think my thyroid is enlarged ... so I must not have Hashi's. I thought it interesting how little was printed about the treatment of thyroid disorders. Where did you find your new doctor? M.D.? or what? Kathy > Kathy, > You'll not only find moral support, here, you will find the kind of intelligent help that I used to think doctors were supposed to be capable of -- only much better because it's backed by years and years of experience, here. I'm real new to. I'm glad I had some lab work done in January because it turns out that I have thyroid anti-bodies so that means I have Hashimoto's Auto-Immune Thyroid (HAIT), or Hashi's. I got impatient with the so-called expert doc who was stringing me along and started trying an OTC glandular and I had now way of really controlling the dosage, although I started to feel great, fast. After about 2 weeks it looked like I needed a more intelligent, and measured (literally) approach and I changed docs. > The new doc ordered the rest of the right tests (Free T3, and adrenal 4Xday) finally. I'm waiting to start on a smarter, baby-step, course... Welcome! you're gonna love it, here, especially if you are even a bit more teachable and patient than I was! > > ... > > > > > ...or at least close to it? > You know, 'moral support'. > > Have you been " officially " diagnosed? Are you also on anything for > adrenal support? I'm not and not sure 100% if I should be, either. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I don't have an noticeably enlarged thyroid. No goiter. I got lucky and found a wonderful (so far)Osteopath (OD) in Concord, CA. .... M.D.? or what? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I don't have an noticeably enlarged thyroid. No goiter. I got lucky and found a wonderful (so far)Osteopath (OD) in Concord, CA. .... M.D.? or what? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 I don't have an noticeably enlarged thyroid. No goiter. I got lucky and found a wonderful (so far)Osteopath (OD) in Concord, CA. .... M.D.? or what? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 >>Do you get what they call a " goiter " ?...or was that something else I was reading? Well, then, I don't think my thyroid is enlarged ... so I must not have Hashi's.<< Goiters do not necessarily mean Hashi's nor does not having one mean you do not have Hashi's. Hashi's is am autoimmune disease of the thyroid. It CAN cause swelling and inflammation of the gland but this will come & go depending on if it is currently being attacked by antibodies. The only way to know for sure if you have it is to have a blood test done for thyroid antibodies. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 >>Do you get what they call a " goiter " ?...or was that something else I was reading? Well, then, I don't think my thyroid is enlarged ... so I must not have Hashi's.<< Goiters do not necessarily mean Hashi's nor does not having one mean you do not have Hashi's. Hashi's is am autoimmune disease of the thyroid. It CAN cause swelling and inflammation of the gland but this will come & go depending on if it is currently being attacked by antibodies. The only way to know for sure if you have it is to have a blood test done for thyroid antibodies. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 >>Do you get what they call a " goiter " ?...or was that something else I was reading? Well, then, I don't think my thyroid is enlarged ... so I must not have Hashi's.<< Goiters do not necessarily mean Hashi's nor does not having one mean you do not have Hashi's. Hashi's is am autoimmune disease of the thyroid. It CAN cause swelling and inflammation of the gland but this will come & go depending on if it is currently being attacked by antibodies. The only way to know for sure if you have it is to have a blood test done for thyroid antibodies. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Hi Cindi, Ya know, I guess I really should try to find a dr. (maybe a DO), but I KNOW around here at least, I'll be wasting my money and end up going from dr. to dr. again until I find one who will " cooperate " . I get too frustrated at their ignorance, too. Maybe they will at least order the blood work. It goes to show you how much the " Merck's Manual " is worth... Kathy > In a message dated 2/27/2005 6:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, > kholl45@y... writes: > > > They say that with Hashi's your thyroid is enlarged...easily > > detectable...is that right > > no. not always. you can have atrophic thyroiditis. > i can remember one time in my 30s (i'm almost 50 now) noticing that my neck > looked a little larger than usual...but evidently it went away. i've never had > an enlarged neck since. > I have hashi's. > cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Hi Cindi, Ya know, I guess I really should try to find a dr. (maybe a DO), but I KNOW around here at least, I'll be wasting my money and end up going from dr. to dr. again until I find one who will " cooperate " . I get too frustrated at their ignorance, too. Maybe they will at least order the blood work. It goes to show you how much the " Merck's Manual " is worth... Kathy > In a message dated 2/27/2005 6:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, > kholl45@y... writes: > > > They say that with Hashi's your thyroid is enlarged...easily > > detectable...is that right > > no. not always. you can have atrophic thyroiditis. > i can remember one time in my 30s (i'm almost 50 now) noticing that my neck > looked a little larger than usual...but evidently it went away. i've never had > an enlarged neck since. > I have hashi's. > cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 > In a message dated 2/27/2005 8:40:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, > kholl45@y... writes: > > > I KNOW around here at least, I'll be wasting my money and end up > > going from dr. to dr. again until I find one who will " cooperate " . > > I get too frustrated at their ignorance, too. Maybe they will at > > least order the blood work > > > i fired the first doctor who diagnosed me. all he cared about was getting my > TSH back in range. Free T4 had not even moved, but the TSH had dropped. > Then i went to an endo listed on the top docs. haha. TSH obsessed too. > Fired her. > > Decided I had to get well before i could even deal with another doctor. i > read everything i could....came to this forum and learned everything I > could....and I'm well on the way to recovery. as much recovery as one can get after > being untreated for 15 - 25 years. it will be harder now for me to ever feel > totally right. > > so anyway, after getting my mental capabilities back (i had gotten really > really slow and dull and couldn't understand anything there for a while)...and > getting some energy...i did search out another doctor. a holistic one. one > that doesn't accept insurance. i like him. he doesn't know a heck of a lot > about thyroid disease - but he's willing to work with me and willing to learn. > > that's better than all the doctors i have had in my entire lifetime. > > the point is - it's good to have a doctor. just don't expect miracles. and > for sure don't leave it to a doctor to get you well. > trust yourself to do the things to get you well. > Cindi Hi Cindi, Well, first of all...it's hard to imagine you were " slow and dull " LOL. Second of all...I appreciate everything you're sharing with me. Part of my problem is that I DON'T trust myself right now to do the things it takes to get me well. After searching for answers and being at a point of desperation for so long...no matter what I tried wasn't solving my problems...I have a hard time trusting myself. I know,...all the things I'm feeling emotionally and physically are not normal...I just don't know how to get out from underneath it all. Can't determine if it's all menopause or part thyroid...or whatever. Kathy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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