Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Okay. This issues gets me real confused...and a bit scared too. I am under much stress from illness and some of life's situations. I finallyt got on CORTISONE a few weeks ago and most of my feeling like I am gong crazy " symptoms disappeared. Now...here is the deal: I am mercury toxic and Cutler says that our adrenals are so stressed that almost all mercury toxic individuals can benefit from adrenal support, and not to worry too much becasue we jsut don't have much adrenal function anyway. He DOES suggest cortisol tapers and dong it every 2-3 months ion one of his writings. Okay. I was having sever attacks last year...ones that nearly killed me. Many were food related and the rest is probably from the general condition of being mercury toxic. Well...I have been chelating for a year ow with DMSA and have finally gotten to a point that I just don't hardly get any attacks anymore. (I also have added HNI enzymes tpo my protocol) Well, yesterday I had some DENALI ice cream, and 6 hours later I went into one of the worst attacks I have had, and seriously, I do not know how I lived through it to be writing this. So if I am taking CORTISONE, does this mean that my adrenals are even weaker now and that when I go into a reaction I have less inate CORTISONE reserve and I should take a bunch of CORTISONE when I get and attack? OPr ios it likely that the lowered CORTISONE reserves from taking CORTISONE sent me into attack...or just IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ALL. I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT> (No don't even consider emergency...theyare absoluely cluesless about mercury and food allergies here....the biggest joke on the planet) Thjings is...I thought that taking CORTISOL was supposed to help alleviate allergic reactions , so I am confused now. ~Inga > > > The ramifications of cortef dependence seem much more serious to me. > First, taking up to 20 mg a day, puts you at risk of an adrenal > crisis, which can put you in the hospital or worse. When you take > cortisone for some time, your adrenals become less able to supply > enough extra hormone needed for stress situations and illness. On 20 > mg, the adrenals will have only 40% of the capacity of the heatlhy > adrenals. You should wear a warning bracelet or neclace and carry > cortisone with you all the time. If something very stressful > happened to you, you would not have the capacity to handle it. > Stress can easily require double or more output of cortisone in a > very short time, even as little as minutes. A healthy adrenal gland > stores 3 weeks worth of extra hormone for these stress situations > and for vigorous excercise and illness. But, after you have been on > 20 mg of cortisone for 4 weeks, adrenal storage is reduced by over > half. > > In comparison, a person can go months without thyroid and not end up > in the hospital. You may feel worse than ever, but you will survive. > In the early days of thyroid research, thyroidectomized people > somehow managed to live for a year or more. In fact, if you did not > have your thyroid removed or severly damaged by radioactive Iodine > treatment, you would find that after about 6 weeks of being without > medication, your own thyroid would kick in and start to produce much > of your daily needs. You would be hypo, but you would be able to > survive for amny years. You certainly would be in rotten health, > though. > > The other downside of taking cortiosne is it's suppressive effect on > the pituitary/hypothalamus. People vary hugely in their sensitivity > to cortisone thearapy. There is a small percentage, probably less > than 5%, of people who will get permanent suppression of the > pituitary/hypothalamus from cortisone therapy. In other words, when > they try to get off the cortisone, their brain does not go back to > normal function to tell the adrenals to make hormone. Then they will > need to be permanently on cortisone therapy and will have developed > secondary s. They will then have a lifetime of limited > capacity for stress and have to cary cortisone shots for the risk of > adrenal crisis. > > The longer you are on cortisone therapy, the more risk you take of > permanently suppressing or lowering the function of the > pituitary/hypothalamus with espect to stimulating the production of > cortisone and other hormones from the adrenals. > > Studies have found that the majority of people put on cortisone > therapy can get off. I have found from my recent research that some > say it takes as long to get off cortiosne therapy as you were on it. > This is not true for everybody. The rate of being able to get off > cortisone is very individual. Some can get off fairly quickly over a > few months. Others take 8 months or more and then for 1 year after > getting off you will still be limited in how much stress you can > handle and will have to carry cortisone with you for situations that > exceed your capacity. You will also have to take it for illness and > probably for vigorous excercise. > > So, basically, cortisone therapy can make you more limited than > thyroid therapy and it can put you at risk of creating a new problem > for you that you didn't have before treatment - basically secondary > s. The risk is low, but it is there. > > Tish > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Okay. This issues gets me real confused...and a bit scared too. I am under much stress from illness and some of life's situations. I finallyt got on CORTISONE a few weeks ago and most of my feeling like I am gong crazy " symptoms disappeared. Now...here is the deal: I am mercury toxic and Cutler says that our adrenals are so stressed that almost all mercury toxic individuals can benefit from adrenal support, and not to worry too much becasue we jsut don't have much adrenal function anyway. He DOES suggest cortisol tapers and dong it every 2-3 months ion one of his writings. Okay. I was having sever attacks last year...ones that nearly killed me. Many were food related and the rest is probably from the general condition of being mercury toxic. Well...I have been chelating for a year ow with DMSA and have finally gotten to a point that I just don't hardly get any attacks anymore. (I also have added HNI enzymes tpo my protocol) Well, yesterday I had some DENALI ice cream, and 6 hours later I went into one of the worst attacks I have had, and seriously, I do not know how I lived through it to be writing this. So if I am taking CORTISONE, does this mean that my adrenals are even weaker now and that when I go into a reaction I have less inate CORTISONE reserve and I should take a bunch of CORTISONE when I get and attack? OPr ios it likely that the lowered CORTISONE reserves from taking CORTISONE sent me into attack...or just IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ALL. I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT> (No don't even consider emergency...theyare absoluely cluesless about mercury and food allergies here....the biggest joke on the planet) Thjings is...I thought that taking CORTISOL was supposed to help alleviate allergic reactions , so I am confused now. ~Inga > > > The ramifications of cortef dependence seem much more serious to me. > First, taking up to 20 mg a day, puts you at risk of an adrenal > crisis, which can put you in the hospital or worse. When you take > cortisone for some time, your adrenals become less able to supply > enough extra hormone needed for stress situations and illness. On 20 > mg, the adrenals will have only 40% of the capacity of the heatlhy > adrenals. You should wear a warning bracelet or neclace and carry > cortisone with you all the time. If something very stressful > happened to you, you would not have the capacity to handle it. > Stress can easily require double or more output of cortisone in a > very short time, even as little as minutes. A healthy adrenal gland > stores 3 weeks worth of extra hormone for these stress situations > and for vigorous excercise and illness. But, after you have been on > 20 mg of cortisone for 4 weeks, adrenal storage is reduced by over > half. > > In comparison, a person can go months without thyroid and not end up > in the hospital. You may feel worse than ever, but you will survive. > In the early days of thyroid research, thyroidectomized people > somehow managed to live for a year or more. In fact, if you did not > have your thyroid removed or severly damaged by radioactive Iodine > treatment, you would find that after about 6 weeks of being without > medication, your own thyroid would kick in and start to produce much > of your daily needs. You would be hypo, but you would be able to > survive for amny years. You certainly would be in rotten health, > though. > > The other downside of taking cortiosne is it's suppressive effect on > the pituitary/hypothalamus. People vary hugely in their sensitivity > to cortisone thearapy. There is a small percentage, probably less > than 5%, of people who will get permanent suppression of the > pituitary/hypothalamus from cortisone therapy. In other words, when > they try to get off the cortisone, their brain does not go back to > normal function to tell the adrenals to make hormone. Then they will > need to be permanently on cortisone therapy and will have developed > secondary s. They will then have a lifetime of limited > capacity for stress and have to cary cortisone shots for the risk of > adrenal crisis. > > The longer you are on cortisone therapy, the more risk you take of > permanently suppressing or lowering the function of the > pituitary/hypothalamus with espect to stimulating the production of > cortisone and other hormones from the adrenals. > > Studies have found that the majority of people put on cortisone > therapy can get off. I have found from my recent research that some > say it takes as long to get off cortiosne therapy as you were on it. > This is not true for everybody. The rate of being able to get off > cortisone is very individual. Some can get off fairly quickly over a > few months. Others take 8 months or more and then for 1 year after > getting off you will still be limited in how much stress you can > handle and will have to carry cortisone with you for situations that > exceed your capacity. You will also have to take it for illness and > probably for vigorous excercise. > > So, basically, cortisone therapy can make you more limited than > thyroid therapy and it can put you at risk of creating a new problem > for you that you didn't have before treatment - basically secondary > s. The risk is low, but it is there. > > Tish > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Next question: So let's say that my need for cortisol is real high becasue my body is in constant stress. Will taking 15 mg of COTISONE still make my adrenals atrophy? Scared...need help...have no support other than forum.... ~inga on 3/3/05 1:10 PM, Ingrid Mager-Renault at wolfiebear@... wrote: > > Okay. This issues gets me real confused...and a bit scared too. > > I am under much stress from illness and some of life's situations. > I finallyt got on CORTISONE a few weeks ago and most of my feeling like I am > gong crazy " symptoms disappeared. > > Now...here is the deal: > I am mercury toxic and Cutler says that our adrenals are so stressed > that almost all mercury toxic individuals can benefit from adrenal support, > and not to worry too much becasue we jsut don't have much adrenal function > anyway. > He DOES suggest cortisol tapers and dong it every 2-3 months ion one of his > writings. > > Okay. I was having sever attacks last year...ones that nearly killed me. > Many were food related and the rest is probably from the general condition > of being mercury toxic. > Well...I have been chelating for a year ow with DMSA and have finally gotten > to a point that I just don't hardly get any attacks anymore. (I also have > added HNI enzymes tpo my protocol) > Well, yesterday I had some DENALI ice cream, and 6 hours later I went into > one of the worst attacks I have had, and seriously, I do not know how I > lived through it to be writing this. > So if I am taking CORTISONE, does this mean that my adrenals are even weaker > now and that when I go into a reaction I have less inate CORTISONE reserve > and I should take a bunch of CORTISONE when I get and attack? > OPr ios it likely that the lowered CORTISONE reserves from taking CORTISONE > sent me into attack...or just IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ALL. > > I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT> > (No don't even consider emergency...theyare absoluely cluesless about > mercury and food allergies here....the biggest joke on the planet) > > Thjings is...I thought that taking CORTISOL was supposed to help alleviate > allergic reactions , so I am confused now. > > ~Inga > > > > > >> >> >> The ramifications of cortef dependence seem much more serious to me. >> First, taking up to 20 mg a day, puts you at risk of an adrenal >> crisis, which can put you in the hospital or worse. When you take >> cortisone for some time, your adrenals become less able to supply >> enough extra hormone needed for stress situations and illness. On 20 >> mg, the adrenals will have only 40% of the capacity of the heatlhy >> adrenals. You should wear a warning bracelet or neclace and carry >> cortisone with you all the time. If something very stressful >> happened to you, you would not have the capacity to handle it. >> Stress can easily require double or more output of cortisone in a >> very short time, even as little as minutes. A healthy adrenal gland >> stores 3 weeks worth of extra hormone for these stress situations >> and for vigorous excercise and illness. But, after you have been on >> 20 mg of cortisone for 4 weeks, adrenal storage is reduced by over >> half. >> >> In comparison, a person can go months without thyroid and not end up >> in the hospital. You may feel worse than ever, but you will survive. >> In the early days of thyroid research, thyroidectomized people >> somehow managed to live for a year or more. In fact, if you did not >> have your thyroid removed or severly damaged by radioactive Iodine >> treatment, you would find that after about 6 weeks of being without >> medication, your own thyroid would kick in and start to produce much >> of your daily needs. You would be hypo, but you would be able to >> survive for amny years. You certainly would be in rotten health, >> though. >> >> The other downside of taking cortiosne is it's suppressive effect on >> the pituitary/hypothalamus. People vary hugely in their sensitivity >> to cortisone thearapy. There is a small percentage, probably less >> than 5%, of people who will get permanent suppression of the >> pituitary/hypothalamus from cortisone therapy. In other words, when >> they try to get off the cortisone, their brain does not go back to >> normal function to tell the adrenals to make hormone. Then they will >> need to be permanently on cortisone therapy and will have developed >> secondary s. They will then have a lifetime of limited >> capacity for stress and have to cary cortisone shots for the risk of >> adrenal crisis. >> >> The longer you are on cortisone therapy, the more risk you take of >> permanently suppressing or lowering the function of the >> pituitary/hypothalamus with espect to stimulating the production of >> cortisone and other hormones from the adrenals. >> >> Studies have found that the majority of people put on cortisone >> therapy can get off. I have found from my recent research that some >> say it takes as long to get off cortiosne therapy as you were on it. >> This is not true for everybody. The rate of being able to get off >> cortisone is very individual. Some can get off fairly quickly over a >> few months. Others take 8 months or more and then for 1 year after >> getting off you will still be limited in how much stress you can >> handle and will have to carry cortisone with you for situations that >> exceed your capacity. You will also have to take it for illness and >> probably for vigorous excercise. >> >> So, basically, cortisone therapy can make you more limited than >> thyroid therapy and it can put you at risk of creating a new problem >> for you that you didn't have before treatment - basically secondary >> s. The risk is low, but it is there. >> >> Tish >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 What do you mean by attacks? Can you describe it is it mentall or physical attacks? Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:10:13 -0800 From: Ingrid Mager-Renault Subject: Re: ****Cortef+Food allergies**** Okay. This issues gets me real confused...and a bit scared too. I am under much stress from illness and some of life's situations. I finallyt got on CORTISONE a few weeks ago and most of my feeling like I am gong crazy " symptoms disappeared. Now...here is the deal: I am mercury toxic and Cutler says that our adrenals are so stressed that almost all mercury toxic individuals can benefit from adrenal support, and not to worry too much becasue we jsut don't have much adrenal function anyway. He DOES suggest cortisol tapers and dong it every 2-3 months ion one of his writings. Okay. I was having sever attacks last year...ones that nearly killed me. Many were food related and the rest is probably from the general condition of being mercury toxic. Well...I have been chelating for a year ow with DMSA and have finally gotten to a point that I just don't hardly get any attacks anymore. (I also have added HNI enzymes tpo my protocol) Well, yesterday I had some DENALI ice cream, and 6 hours later I went into one of the worst attacks I have had, and seriously, I do not know how I lived through it to be writing this. So if I am taking CORTISONE, does this mean that my adrenals are even weaker now and that when I go into a reaction I have less inate CORTISONE reserve and I should take a bunch of CORTISONE when I get and attack? OPr ios it likely that the lowered CORTISONE reserves from taking CORTISONE sent me into attack...or just IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ALL. I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT> (No don't even consider emergency...theyare absoluely cluesless about mercury and food allergies here....the biggest joke on the planet) Thjings is...I thought that taking CORTISOL was supposed to help alleviate allergic reactions , so I am confused now. ~Inga --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 What do you mean by attacks? Can you describe it is it mentall or physical attacks? Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:10:13 -0800 From: Ingrid Mager-Renault Subject: Re: ****Cortef+Food allergies**** Okay. This issues gets me real confused...and a bit scared too. I am under much stress from illness and some of life's situations. I finallyt got on CORTISONE a few weeks ago and most of my feeling like I am gong crazy " symptoms disappeared. Now...here is the deal: I am mercury toxic and Cutler says that our adrenals are so stressed that almost all mercury toxic individuals can benefit from adrenal support, and not to worry too much becasue we jsut don't have much adrenal function anyway. He DOES suggest cortisol tapers and dong it every 2-3 months ion one of his writings. Okay. I was having sever attacks last year...ones that nearly killed me. Many were food related and the rest is probably from the general condition of being mercury toxic. Well...I have been chelating for a year ow with DMSA and have finally gotten to a point that I just don't hardly get any attacks anymore. (I also have added HNI enzymes tpo my protocol) Well, yesterday I had some DENALI ice cream, and 6 hours later I went into one of the worst attacks I have had, and seriously, I do not know how I lived through it to be writing this. So if I am taking CORTISONE, does this mean that my adrenals are even weaker now and that when I go into a reaction I have less inate CORTISONE reserve and I should take a bunch of CORTISONE when I get and attack? OPr ios it likely that the lowered CORTISONE reserves from taking CORTISONE sent me into attack...or just IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ALL. I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT> (No don't even consider emergency...theyare absoluely cluesless about mercury and food allergies here....the biggest joke on the planet) Thjings is...I thought that taking CORTISOL was supposed to help alleviate allergic reactions , so I am confused now. ~Inga --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 What do you mean by attacks? Can you describe it is it mentall or physical attacks? Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:10:13 -0800 From: Ingrid Mager-Renault Subject: Re: ****Cortef+Food allergies**** Okay. This issues gets me real confused...and a bit scared too. I am under much stress from illness and some of life's situations. I finallyt got on CORTISONE a few weeks ago and most of my feeling like I am gong crazy " symptoms disappeared. Now...here is the deal: I am mercury toxic and Cutler says that our adrenals are so stressed that almost all mercury toxic individuals can benefit from adrenal support, and not to worry too much becasue we jsut don't have much adrenal function anyway. He DOES suggest cortisol tapers and dong it every 2-3 months ion one of his writings. Okay. I was having sever attacks last year...ones that nearly killed me. Many were food related and the rest is probably from the general condition of being mercury toxic. Well...I have been chelating for a year ow with DMSA and have finally gotten to a point that I just don't hardly get any attacks anymore. (I also have added HNI enzymes tpo my protocol) Well, yesterday I had some DENALI ice cream, and 6 hours later I went into one of the worst attacks I have had, and seriously, I do not know how I lived through it to be writing this. So if I am taking CORTISONE, does this mean that my adrenals are even weaker now and that when I go into a reaction I have less inate CORTISONE reserve and I should take a bunch of CORTISONE when I get and attack? OPr ios it likely that the lowered CORTISONE reserves from taking CORTISONE sent me into attack...or just IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ALL. I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT> (No don't even consider emergency...theyare absoluely cluesless about mercury and food allergies here....the biggest joke on the planet) Thjings is...I thought that taking CORTISOL was supposed to help alleviate allergic reactions , so I am confused now. ~Inga --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Strictly physical...sort of like anaphalactic shock, but I have never had that, so I can only say sort of....I think.... The symptoms are meurologial, heart, and maybe lung involved....sometimes Ihave gotten severe tachycardia...sometimes little or none at all. the feeling is as if every systemin my body were freezing up...and yet I do not think I have had everysystem freeze up so I say that tongue in cheek. Oddly enough...talking with somebody helps just a tiny pinch when I am in the middle of an attack. The longest one has lasted 14 hours...the shortest probably aot 4 hours. They usually are more like 6-8 hours long. When it is starting to ease slightly, instead of getting worse, I wil yawn a few times here and there.... let's see...what else can I say. Ahj, a few times, my body has vibrated. Noth shock, but literally vibrated sothat you could feeli it if you were to touch me That part I think is from mercury and has anly happened a few times. During a few of y worst attacks, My head may be totally clear, ut my ability to speak could be quite difficult. Anyway, the attack I had a couple of days ago, had almost no tachycardia, and et was one of the worse ones I have had. I think it was from eating Denali Bear Claw ice cream. ~Inga > >>What do you mean by attacks? Can you describe it is it mentall or physical > >attacks? > > > Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:10:13 -0800 > From: Ingrid Mager-Renault > Subject: Re: ****Cortef+Food allergies**** > > Okay. This issues gets me real confused...and a bit scared too. > > I am under much stress from illness and some of life's situations. > I finallyt got on CORTISONE a few weeks ago and most of my feeling like I am > gong crazy " symptoms disappeared. > > Now...here is the deal: > I am mercury toxic and Cutler says that our adrenals are so stressed > that almost all mercury toxic individuals can benefit from adrenal support, > and not to worry too much becasue we jsut don't have much adrenal function > anyway. > He DOES suggest cortisol tapers and dong it every 2-3 months ion one of his > writings. > > Okay. I was having sever attacks last year...ones that nearly killed me. > Many were food related and the rest is probably from the general condition > of being mercury toxic. > Well...I have been chelating for a year ow with DMSA and have finally gotten > to a point that I just don't hardly get any attacks anymore. (I also have > added HNI enzymes tpo my protocol) > Well, yesterday I had some DENALI ice cream, and 6 hours later I went into > one of the worst attacks I have had, and seriously, I do not know how I > lived through it to be writing this. > So if I am taking CORTISONE, does this mean that my adrenals are even weaker > now and that when I go into a reaction I have less inate CORTISONE reserve > and I should take a bunch of CORTISONE when I get and attack? > OPr ios it likely that the lowered CORTISONE reserves from taking CORTISONE > sent me into attack...or just IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ALL. > > I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT> > (No don't even consider emergency...theyare absoluely cluesless about > mercury and food allergies here....the biggest joke on the planet) > > Thjings is...I thought that taking CORTISOL was supposed to help alleviate > allergic reactions , so I am confused now. > > ~Inga > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Strictly physical...sort of like anaphalactic shock, but I have never had that, so I can only say sort of....I think.... The symptoms are meurologial, heart, and maybe lung involved....sometimes Ihave gotten severe tachycardia...sometimes little or none at all. the feeling is as if every systemin my body were freezing up...and yet I do not think I have had everysystem freeze up so I say that tongue in cheek. Oddly enough...talking with somebody helps just a tiny pinch when I am in the middle of an attack. The longest one has lasted 14 hours...the shortest probably aot 4 hours. They usually are more like 6-8 hours long. When it is starting to ease slightly, instead of getting worse, I wil yawn a few times here and there.... let's see...what else can I say. Ahj, a few times, my body has vibrated. Noth shock, but literally vibrated sothat you could feeli it if you were to touch me That part I think is from mercury and has anly happened a few times. During a few of y worst attacks, My head may be totally clear, ut my ability to speak could be quite difficult. Anyway, the attack I had a couple of days ago, had almost no tachycardia, and et was one of the worse ones I have had. I think it was from eating Denali Bear Claw ice cream. ~Inga > >>What do you mean by attacks? Can you describe it is it mentall or physical > >attacks? > > > Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:10:13 -0800 > From: Ingrid Mager-Renault > Subject: Re: ****Cortef+Food allergies**** > > Okay. This issues gets me real confused...and a bit scared too. > > I am under much stress from illness and some of life's situations. > I finallyt got on CORTISONE a few weeks ago and most of my feeling like I am > gong crazy " symptoms disappeared. > > Now...here is the deal: > I am mercury toxic and Cutler says that our adrenals are so stressed > that almost all mercury toxic individuals can benefit from adrenal support, > and not to worry too much becasue we jsut don't have much adrenal function > anyway. > He DOES suggest cortisol tapers and dong it every 2-3 months ion one of his > writings. > > Okay. I was having sever attacks last year...ones that nearly killed me. > Many were food related and the rest is probably from the general condition > of being mercury toxic. > Well...I have been chelating for a year ow with DMSA and have finally gotten > to a point that I just don't hardly get any attacks anymore. (I also have > added HNI enzymes tpo my protocol) > Well, yesterday I had some DENALI ice cream, and 6 hours later I went into > one of the worst attacks I have had, and seriously, I do not know how I > lived through it to be writing this. > So if I am taking CORTISONE, does this mean that my adrenals are even weaker > now and that when I go into a reaction I have less inate CORTISONE reserve > and I should take a bunch of CORTISONE when I get and attack? > OPr ios it likely that the lowered CORTISONE reserves from taking CORTISONE > sent me into attack...or just IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ALL. > > I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT> > (No don't even consider emergency...theyare absoluely cluesless about > mercury and food allergies here....the biggest joke on the planet) > > Thjings is...I thought that taking CORTISOL was supposed to help alleviate > allergic reactions , so I am confused now. > > ~Inga > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 That sounds horrible, can it be a really severe panic attack? Maybeyour adrenals are just too weak to handle any stimulation or stress at this time? Strictly physical...sort of like anaphalactic shock, but I have never had that, so I can only say sort of....I think.... The symptoms are meurologial, heart, and maybe lung involved....sometimes Ihave gotten severe tachycardia...sometimes little or none at all. the feeling is as if every systemin my body were freezing up...and yet I do not think I have had everysystem freeze up so I say that tongue in cheek. Oddly enough...talking with somebody helps just a tiny pinch when I am in the middle of an attack. The longest one has lasted 14 hours...the shortest probably aot 4 hours. They usually are more like 6-8 hours long. When it is starting to ease slightly, instead of getting worse, I wil yawn a few times here and there.... let's see...what else can I say. Ahj, a few times, my body has vibrated. Noth shock, but literally vibrated sothat you could feeli it if you were to touch me That part I think is from mercury and has anly happened a few times. During a few of y worst attacks, My head may be totally clear, ut my ability to speak could be quite difficult. Anyway, the attack I had a couple of days ago, had almost no tachycardia, and et was one of the worse ones I have had. I think it was from eating Denali Bear Claw ice cream. ~Inga --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 That sounds horrible, can it be a really severe panic attack? Maybeyour adrenals are just too weak to handle any stimulation or stress at this time? Strictly physical...sort of like anaphalactic shock, but I have never had that, so I can only say sort of....I think.... The symptoms are meurologial, heart, and maybe lung involved....sometimes Ihave gotten severe tachycardia...sometimes little or none at all. the feeling is as if every systemin my body were freezing up...and yet I do not think I have had everysystem freeze up so I say that tongue in cheek. Oddly enough...talking with somebody helps just a tiny pinch when I am in the middle of an attack. The longest one has lasted 14 hours...the shortest probably aot 4 hours. They usually are more like 6-8 hours long. When it is starting to ease slightly, instead of getting worse, I wil yawn a few times here and there.... let's see...what else can I say. Ahj, a few times, my body has vibrated. Noth shock, but literally vibrated sothat you could feeli it if you were to touch me That part I think is from mercury and has anly happened a few times. During a few of y worst attacks, My head may be totally clear, ut my ability to speak could be quite difficult. Anyway, the attack I had a couple of days ago, had almost no tachycardia, and et was one of the worse ones I have had. I think it was from eating Denali Bear Claw ice cream. ~Inga --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 That sounds horrible, can it be a really severe panic attack? Maybeyour adrenals are just too weak to handle any stimulation or stress at this time? Strictly physical...sort of like anaphalactic shock, but I have never had that, so I can only say sort of....I think.... The symptoms are meurologial, heart, and maybe lung involved....sometimes Ihave gotten severe tachycardia...sometimes little or none at all. the feeling is as if every systemin my body were freezing up...and yet I do not think I have had everysystem freeze up so I say that tongue in cheek. Oddly enough...talking with somebody helps just a tiny pinch when I am in the middle of an attack. The longest one has lasted 14 hours...the shortest probably aot 4 hours. They usually are more like 6-8 hours long. When it is starting to ease slightly, instead of getting worse, I wil yawn a few times here and there.... let's see...what else can I say. Ahj, a few times, my body has vibrated. Noth shock, but literally vibrated sothat you could feeli it if you were to touch me That part I think is from mercury and has anly happened a few times. During a few of y worst attacks, My head may be totally clear, ut my ability to speak could be quite difficult. Anyway, the attack I had a couple of days ago, had almost no tachycardia, and et was one of the worse ones I have had. I think it was from eating Denali Bear Claw ice cream. ~Inga --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 on 3/5/05 8:29 AM, young at youngjaem@... wrote: > > > > That sounds horrible, can it be a really severe panic attack? >>>No offense, but GIVE ME A BREAK. That is the typical ansewer that non-knowing medical doctors give...as they would proceed to try and kill me with drugs and such. I do not tolerate any sort of drugs. >>>I don't mean to sound angry, it is more just upset....but people just HAVE TO LEARN about mercury toxicity. Check out www.noamalgam.com. >>>It is usually a food or chemical that has resulted oin such attacks. I used to get them nightly or daily before I got on DMSA, which binds up with mercury in the tissues. > Maybeyour > adrenals are just too weak to handle any stimulation or stress at this time? >>>I am sure that may be adding to it. I have been under incredible emotional stress as well as dibilitating illness for a long time. >>>What I was wondering is if there is anyway that CORTEF could be adding to it, as I had not had a real attack for around 4+ months...and now bingo. >>>~Inga > > Strictly physical...sort of like anaphalactic shock, but I have never had > that, so I can only say sort of....I think.... > > The symptoms are meurologial, heart, and maybe lung involved....sometimes > Ihave gotten severe tachycardia...sometimes little or none at all. > the feeling is as if every systemin my body were freezing up...and yet I do > not think I have had everysystem freeze up so I say that tongue in cheek. > > Oddly enough...talking with somebody helps just a tiny pinch when I am in > the middle of an attack. > The longest one has lasted 14 hours...the shortest probably aot 4 hours. > They usually are more like 6-8 hours long. > When it is starting to ease slightly, instead of getting worse, I wil yawn a > few times here and there.... > > let's see...what else can I say. > Ahj, a few times, my body has vibrated. Noth shock, but literally vibrated > sothat you could feeli it if you were to touch me That part I think is from > mercury and has anly happened a few times. > > During a few of y worst attacks, My head may be totally clear, ut my ability > to speak could be quite difficult. > > > Anyway, the attack I had a couple of days ago, had almost no tachycardia, > and et was one of the worse ones I have had. I think it was from eating > Denali Bear Claw ice cream. > > > ~Inga > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 on 3/5/05 8:29 AM, young at youngjaem@... wrote: > > > > That sounds horrible, can it be a really severe panic attack? >>>No offense, but GIVE ME A BREAK. That is the typical ansewer that non-knowing medical doctors give...as they would proceed to try and kill me with drugs and such. I do not tolerate any sort of drugs. >>>I don't mean to sound angry, it is more just upset....but people just HAVE TO LEARN about mercury toxicity. Check out www.noamalgam.com. >>>It is usually a food or chemical that has resulted oin such attacks. I used to get them nightly or daily before I got on DMSA, which binds up with mercury in the tissues. > Maybeyour > adrenals are just too weak to handle any stimulation or stress at this time? >>>I am sure that may be adding to it. I have been under incredible emotional stress as well as dibilitating illness for a long time. >>>What I was wondering is if there is anyway that CORTEF could be adding to it, as I had not had a real attack for around 4+ months...and now bingo. >>>~Inga > > Strictly physical...sort of like anaphalactic shock, but I have never had > that, so I can only say sort of....I think.... > > The symptoms are meurologial, heart, and maybe lung involved....sometimes > Ihave gotten severe tachycardia...sometimes little or none at all. > the feeling is as if every systemin my body were freezing up...and yet I do > not think I have had everysystem freeze up so I say that tongue in cheek. > > Oddly enough...talking with somebody helps just a tiny pinch when I am in > the middle of an attack. > The longest one has lasted 14 hours...the shortest probably aot 4 hours. > They usually are more like 6-8 hours long. > When it is starting to ease slightly, instead of getting worse, I wil yawn a > few times here and there.... > > let's see...what else can I say. > Ahj, a few times, my body has vibrated. Noth shock, but literally vibrated > sothat you could feeli it if you were to touch me That part I think is from > mercury and has anly happened a few times. > > During a few of y worst attacks, My head may be totally clear, ut my ability > to speak could be quite difficult. > > > Anyway, the attack I had a couple of days ago, had almost no tachycardia, > and et was one of the worse ones I have had. I think it was from eating > Denali Bear Claw ice cream. > > > ~Inga > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 on 3/5/05 8:29 AM, young at youngjaem@... wrote: > > > > That sounds horrible, can it be a really severe panic attack? >>>No offense, but GIVE ME A BREAK. That is the typical ansewer that non-knowing medical doctors give...as they would proceed to try and kill me with drugs and such. I do not tolerate any sort of drugs. >>>I don't mean to sound angry, it is more just upset....but people just HAVE TO LEARN about mercury toxicity. Check out www.noamalgam.com. >>>It is usually a food or chemical that has resulted oin such attacks. I used to get them nightly or daily before I got on DMSA, which binds up with mercury in the tissues. > Maybeyour > adrenals are just too weak to handle any stimulation or stress at this time? >>>I am sure that may be adding to it. I have been under incredible emotional stress as well as dibilitating illness for a long time. >>>What I was wondering is if there is anyway that CORTEF could be adding to it, as I had not had a real attack for around 4+ months...and now bingo. >>>~Inga > > Strictly physical...sort of like anaphalactic shock, but I have never had > that, so I can only say sort of....I think.... > > The symptoms are meurologial, heart, and maybe lung involved....sometimes > Ihave gotten severe tachycardia...sometimes little or none at all. > the feeling is as if every systemin my body were freezing up...and yet I do > not think I have had everysystem freeze up so I say that tongue in cheek. > > Oddly enough...talking with somebody helps just a tiny pinch when I am in > the middle of an attack. > The longest one has lasted 14 hours...the shortest probably aot 4 hours. > They usually are more like 6-8 hours long. > When it is starting to ease slightly, instead of getting worse, I wil yawn a > few times here and there.... > > let's see...what else can I say. > Ahj, a few times, my body has vibrated. Noth shock, but literally vibrated > sothat you could feeli it if you were to touch me That part I think is from > mercury and has anly happened a few times. > > During a few of y worst attacks, My head may be totally clear, ut my ability > to speak could be quite difficult. > > > Anyway, the attack I had a couple of days ago, had almost no tachycardia, > and et was one of the worse ones I have had. I think it was from eating > Denali Bear Claw ice cream. > > > ~Inga > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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