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I have to give poor Gizzy allergy injections every 3 days. The whole point

is to try to step him up to 10 cc by increasing each injection 1cc. We have

gone through 2 vials and he can still only tolerate 2 cc. Every 6 weeks or

so I try to increase to 3 cc, and he has a reaction. That is when I have to

give him the pred. He gets sneezy, wheezy, itchy, and his skin gets bright

red and actually cracks open and bleeds. Very sad little dog...Yes, the

product of a puppy mill...He hates his injections (not that I blame him).

But he stops 2 feet from me and looks so sad...then, when I finally get him

over to me, he rolls on his belly because he knows he gets the injection in

the nape of the neck (between his shoulder blades). So, if he is on his

back, I can't give him the injection...But, let me tell you...This poor

little boy jumps as soon as it is over and runs to the fridge for a piece of

tofu cheese. That just seems to make it all better.

Missy

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I have to give poor Gizzy allergy injections every 3 days. The whole point

is to try to step him up to 10 cc by increasing each injection 1cc. We have

gone through 2 vials and he can still only tolerate 2 cc. Every 6 weeks or

so I try to increase to 3 cc, and he has a reaction. That is when I have to

give him the pred. He gets sneezy, wheezy, itchy, and his skin gets bright

red and actually cracks open and bleeds. Very sad little dog...Yes, the

product of a puppy mill...He hates his injections (not that I blame him).

But he stops 2 feet from me and looks so sad...then, when I finally get him

over to me, he rolls on his belly because he knows he gets the injection in

the nape of the neck (between his shoulder blades). So, if he is on his

back, I can't give him the injection...But, let me tell you...This poor

little boy jumps as soon as it is over and runs to the fridge for a piece of

tofu cheese. That just seems to make it all better.

Missy

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I have to give poor Gizzy allergy injections every 3 days. The whole point

is to try to step him up to 10 cc by increasing each injection 1cc. We have

gone through 2 vials and he can still only tolerate 2 cc. Every 6 weeks or

so I try to increase to 3 cc, and he has a reaction. That is when I have to

give him the pred. He gets sneezy, wheezy, itchy, and his skin gets bright

red and actually cracks open and bleeds. Very sad little dog...Yes, the

product of a puppy mill...He hates his injections (not that I blame him).

But he stops 2 feet from me and looks so sad...then, when I finally get him

over to me, he rolls on his belly because he knows he gets the injection in

the nape of the neck (between his shoulder blades). So, if he is on his

back, I can't give him the injection...But, let me tell you...This poor

little boy jumps as soon as it is over and runs to the fridge for a piece of

tofu cheese. That just seems to make it all better.

Missy

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Darcy and Missy,

Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long

term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so

good.

- melanie@...

To err is human - to forgive canine.

Re: Pets & Prednisone OT

>

>

> parrot004@... wrote:

> >

> > Not to change the subject, but my dog takes Prednisone as well. I

have to

> > administer it when he has a bad reaction to something allergy

wise...For

> > instance an adverse reaction to his shots. Thankfully I have not

had to use

> > it often, but I wonder if it has the same negitive effects on dogs

as humans.

>

> I'm willing to bet it does since it does with cats. My cat developed

> diabetes and then a short time later Inflammatory Bowel Disease. The

> prednisone keeps his diarrhea under control. I know it is causing

> damage to his body, but before we got things under control by using

it,

> he was having to be bathed 4-5 times a day because of the diarrhea.

He

> had to be confined to the kitchen again because of the diarrhea. He

was

> starting to get very depressed, and it was a very traumatic event each

> time he had to be bathed. Even my husband was started to get very

upset

> by the baths. The prednisone controls the diarrhea so he now has full

> run of the house again. He can come sit on our lap or sleep with us.

> No more baths except one in a great, great while. Sometimes quality

is

> better than quantity. IMHO.

> Darcy

>

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Darcy and Missy,

Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long

term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so

good.

- melanie@...

To err is human - to forgive canine.

Re: Pets & Prednisone OT

>

>

> parrot004@... wrote:

> >

> > Not to change the subject, but my dog takes Prednisone as well. I

have to

> > administer it when he has a bad reaction to something allergy

wise...For

> > instance an adverse reaction to his shots. Thankfully I have not

had to use

> > it often, but I wonder if it has the same negitive effects on dogs

as humans.

>

> I'm willing to bet it does since it does with cats. My cat developed

> diabetes and then a short time later Inflammatory Bowel Disease. The

> prednisone keeps his diarrhea under control. I know it is causing

> damage to his body, but before we got things under control by using

it,

> he was having to be bathed 4-5 times a day because of the diarrhea.

He

> had to be confined to the kitchen again because of the diarrhea. He

was

> starting to get very depressed, and it was a very traumatic event each

> time he had to be bathed. Even my husband was started to get very

upset

> by the baths. The prednisone controls the diarrhea so he now has full

> run of the house again. He can come sit on our lap or sleep with us.

> No more baths except one in a great, great while. Sometimes quality

is

> better than quantity. IMHO.

> Darcy

>

>

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Darcy and Missy,

Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long

term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so

good.

- melanie@...

To err is human - to forgive canine.

Re: Pets & Prednisone OT

>

>

> parrot004@... wrote:

> >

> > Not to change the subject, but my dog takes Prednisone as well. I

have to

> > administer it when he has a bad reaction to something allergy

wise...For

> > instance an adverse reaction to his shots. Thankfully I have not

had to use

> > it often, but I wonder if it has the same negitive effects on dogs

as humans.

>

> I'm willing to bet it does since it does with cats. My cat developed

> diabetes and then a short time later Inflammatory Bowel Disease. The

> prednisone keeps his diarrhea under control. I know it is causing

> damage to his body, but before we got things under control by using

it,

> he was having to be bathed 4-5 times a day because of the diarrhea.

He

> had to be confined to the kitchen again because of the diarrhea. He

was

> starting to get very depressed, and it was a very traumatic event each

> time he had to be bathed. Even my husband was started to get very

upset

> by the baths. The prednisone controls the diarrhea so he now has full

> run of the house again. He can come sit on our lap or sleep with us.

> No more baths except one in a great, great while. Sometimes quality

is

> better than quantity. IMHO.

> Darcy

>

>

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In a message dated 08/08/2002 10:19:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

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> actually cracks open and bleeds

aww bless his lil' heart....My friend that lives in New York, just helped

shut down a puppy mill in Missouri about 6 months ago. I think these people

doing this should be taken to the streets and shot. They are VERY SCARY...and

sad. I hope your lil' man gets better and eventually " hopefully " you won't

have to give him these shots. Bless his heart....

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I am aware of the " bust " you are referring to in Missouri. It was HUGE!

Good for him!

Missy

> aww bless his lil' heart....My friend that lives in New York, just helped

> shut down a puppy mill in Missouri about 6 months ago. I think these people

> doing this should be taken to the streets and shot. They are VERY

> SCARY...and

> sad. I hope your lil' man gets better and eventually " hopefully " you won't

> have to give him these shots. Bless his heart....

> Allicia

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parrot004@... wrote:

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>..He hates his injections (not that I blame him).

> But he stops 2 feet from me and looks so sad...then, when I finally get him

> over to me, he rolls on his belly because he knows he gets the injection in

> the nape of the neck (between his shoulder blades).

Can you use a thinner needle? The needles we use on Bart are so fine,

he doesn't even know they're going in most of the time. We were told to

inject him in his armpit. Every great once in a while, if you get the

wrong angle, he'll cry for a second, but that's it. If you want the

size/type of needle we use, let me know. He gets 8.25 cc of insulin, so

it's good for large amounts of liquid.

Darcy

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> Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long

> term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so

> good.

Thanks for letting me know this. The cat that is on it, is dh absolute

favorite cat. He would be upset if anything happened to him. He'll be

glad to hear that yours has done so well on it.

Darcy

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> Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long

> term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so

> good.

Thanks for letting me know this. The cat that is on it, is dh absolute

favorite cat. He would be upset if anything happened to him. He'll be

glad to hear that yours has done so well on it.

Darcy

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I have the smallest needles available. My best friend is the boss of a

medical supply place :) I lost the sharp tip the other day and it went right

into my big toe. I didn't even know it. Sure enough when I looked down for

it, it was dangling on the top of my toe...had to get another one. I would

not want Giz to catch my Fibro! LOL

He is just a big wus, and he knows that I pity him. The more pitiful he is,

the more cheese in the end. He's not stupid...I am.

I also think that his problem is that his skin is so hypersensitive that he

feels everything intense. After he has that shot he is at the fridge in 2

secs or less.

Missy

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I have the smallest needles available. My best friend is the boss of a

medical supply place :) I lost the sharp tip the other day and it went right

into my big toe. I didn't even know it. Sure enough when I looked down for

it, it was dangling on the top of my toe...had to get another one. I would

not want Giz to catch my Fibro! LOL

He is just a big wus, and he knows that I pity him. The more pitiful he is,

the more cheese in the end. He's not stupid...I am.

I also think that his problem is that his skin is so hypersensitive that he

feels everything intense. After he has that shot he is at the fridge in 2

secs or less.

Missy

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I have the smallest needles available. My best friend is the boss of a

medical supply place :) I lost the sharp tip the other day and it went right

into my big toe. I didn't even know it. Sure enough when I looked down for

it, it was dangling on the top of my toe...had to get another one. I would

not want Giz to catch my Fibro! LOL

He is just a big wus, and he knows that I pity him. The more pitiful he is,

the more cheese in the end. He's not stupid...I am.

I also think that his problem is that his skin is so hypersensitive that he

feels everything intense. After he has that shot he is at the fridge in 2

secs or less.

Missy

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In a message dated 08/10/2002 3:03:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

catstamp@... writes:

> Giggle! Sounds like he has your number, big time! Bart gets his shot,

> then his medicine, and then his partial can of kitty cat food! He

> doesn't mind the shot, but he'll run when he knows it's medicine time,

> sometimes. He then flounced into the kitchen and yells that you need to

> get his food to him quicker.

> Darcy

>

>

My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs

his mommy more than Gizmo. I had him & two of the cats at the vet at the

same time and my angora was a mess...Scared as heck. She peed in the

carrier, was shedding hair, and threw up twice. Gizzy was like...Be darned

with that cat! He groaned gowled and whined until I picked him up, at which

point he actually weasels himself up until he is sitting on my shoulder,

front paws on my head...He must think that it's safer there...See...a big

wus. I cannot put him down for a second.

Missy

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In a message dated 08/10/2002 3:03:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

catstamp@... writes:

> Giggle! Sounds like he has your number, big time! Bart gets his shot,

> then his medicine, and then his partial can of kitty cat food! He

> doesn't mind the shot, but he'll run when he knows it's medicine time,

> sometimes. He then flounced into the kitchen and yells that you need to

> get his food to him quicker.

> Darcy

>

>

My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs

his mommy more than Gizmo. I had him & two of the cats at the vet at the

same time and my angora was a mess...Scared as heck. She peed in the

carrier, was shedding hair, and threw up twice. Gizzy was like...Be darned

with that cat! He groaned gowled and whined until I picked him up, at which

point he actually weasels himself up until he is sitting on my shoulder,

front paws on my head...He must think that it's safer there...See...a big

wus. I cannot put him down for a second.

Missy

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In a message dated 08/10/2002 3:03:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

catstamp@... writes:

> Giggle! Sounds like he has your number, big time! Bart gets his shot,

> then his medicine, and then his partial can of kitty cat food! He

> doesn't mind the shot, but he'll run when he knows it's medicine time,

> sometimes. He then flounced into the kitchen and yells that you need to

> get his food to him quicker.

> Darcy

>

>

My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs

his mommy more than Gizmo. I had him & two of the cats at the vet at the

same time and my angora was a mess...Scared as heck. She peed in the

carrier, was shedding hair, and threw up twice. Gizzy was like...Be darned

with that cat! He groaned gowled and whined until I picked him up, at which

point he actually weasels himself up until he is sitting on my shoulder,

front paws on my head...He must think that it's safer there...See...a big

wus. I cannot put him down for a second.

Missy

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parrot004@... wrote:

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> He is just a big wus, and he knows that I pity him. The more pitiful he is,

> the more cheese in the end. He's not stupid...I am.

Giggle! Sounds like he has your number, big time! Bart gets his shot,

then his medicine, and then his partial can of kitty cat food! He

doesn't mind the shot, but he'll run when he knows it's medicine time,

sometimes. He then flounced into the kitchen and yells that you need to

get his food to him quicker.

Darcy

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parrot004@... wrote:

> My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs

> his mommy more than

I'm not sure which is the bigger baby, Bart does well at the vets since

he's been there so much for the diabetes (in the beginning). Now he'll

stroll out of the carrier, and hang out on the table while the other

cats get examined, he's relaxed and " cool man " . On the other hand, if

he even *thinks* his people have abandoned him (gone to the garage for

literally less than three minutes, or just quiet on the computer), he'll

walk around with one of his stuff toys in his mouth and moan loudly like

he's been abandoned! Micky didn't have a good first couple of vet

experiments, so he'll tremble, and try and hide in/under me. He's a big

believer in the ostrich theory, if you can't see them, they can't see

you!

Darcy

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parrot004@... wrote:

> My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs

> his mommy more than

I'm not sure which is the bigger baby, Bart does well at the vets since

he's been there so much for the diabetes (in the beginning). Now he'll

stroll out of the carrier, and hang out on the table while the other

cats get examined, he's relaxed and " cool man " . On the other hand, if

he even *thinks* his people have abandoned him (gone to the garage for

literally less than three minutes, or just quiet on the computer), he'll

walk around with one of his stuff toys in his mouth and moan loudly like

he's been abandoned! Micky didn't have a good first couple of vet

experiments, so he'll tremble, and try and hide in/under me. He's a big

believer in the ostrich theory, if you can't see them, they can't see

you!

Darcy

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parrot004@... wrote:

> My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs

> his mommy more than

I'm not sure which is the bigger baby, Bart does well at the vets since

he's been there so much for the diabetes (in the beginning). Now he'll

stroll out of the carrier, and hang out on the table while the other

cats get examined, he's relaxed and " cool man " . On the other hand, if

he even *thinks* his people have abandoned him (gone to the garage for

literally less than three minutes, or just quiet on the computer), he'll

walk around with one of his stuff toys in his mouth and moan loudly like

he's been abandoned! Micky didn't have a good first couple of vet

experiments, so he'll tremble, and try and hide in/under me. He's a big

believer in the ostrich theory, if you can't see them, they can't see

you!

Darcy

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