Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 I have to give poor Gizzy allergy injections every 3 days. The whole point is to try to step him up to 10 cc by increasing each injection 1cc. We have gone through 2 vials and he can still only tolerate 2 cc. Every 6 weeks or so I try to increase to 3 cc, and he has a reaction. That is when I have to give him the pred. He gets sneezy, wheezy, itchy, and his skin gets bright red and actually cracks open and bleeds. Very sad little dog...Yes, the product of a puppy mill...He hates his injections (not that I blame him). But he stops 2 feet from me and looks so sad...then, when I finally get him over to me, he rolls on his belly because he knows he gets the injection in the nape of the neck (between his shoulder blades). So, if he is on his back, I can't give him the injection...But, let me tell you...This poor little boy jumps as soon as it is over and runs to the fridge for a piece of tofu cheese. That just seems to make it all better. Missy Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 I have to give poor Gizzy allergy injections every 3 days. The whole point is to try to step him up to 10 cc by increasing each injection 1cc. We have gone through 2 vials and he can still only tolerate 2 cc. Every 6 weeks or so I try to increase to 3 cc, and he has a reaction. That is when I have to give him the pred. He gets sneezy, wheezy, itchy, and his skin gets bright red and actually cracks open and bleeds. Very sad little dog...Yes, the product of a puppy mill...He hates his injections (not that I blame him). But he stops 2 feet from me and looks so sad...then, when I finally get him over to me, he rolls on his belly because he knows he gets the injection in the nape of the neck (between his shoulder blades). So, if he is on his back, I can't give him the injection...But, let me tell you...This poor little boy jumps as soon as it is over and runs to the fridge for a piece of tofu cheese. That just seems to make it all better. Missy Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 I have to give poor Gizzy allergy injections every 3 days. The whole point is to try to step him up to 10 cc by increasing each injection 1cc. We have gone through 2 vials and he can still only tolerate 2 cc. Every 6 weeks or so I try to increase to 3 cc, and he has a reaction. That is when I have to give him the pred. He gets sneezy, wheezy, itchy, and his skin gets bright red and actually cracks open and bleeds. Very sad little dog...Yes, the product of a puppy mill...He hates his injections (not that I blame him). But he stops 2 feet from me and looks so sad...then, when I finally get him over to me, he rolls on his belly because he knows he gets the injection in the nape of the neck (between his shoulder blades). So, if he is on his back, I can't give him the injection...But, let me tell you...This poor little boy jumps as soon as it is over and runs to the fridge for a piece of tofu cheese. That just seems to make it all better. Missy Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Darcy and Missy, Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so good. - melanie@... To err is human - to forgive canine. Re: Pets & Prednisone OT > > > parrot004@... wrote: > > > > Not to change the subject, but my dog takes Prednisone as well. I have to > > administer it when he has a bad reaction to something allergy wise...For > > instance an adverse reaction to his shots. Thankfully I have not had to use > > it often, but I wonder if it has the same negitive effects on dogs as humans. > > I'm willing to bet it does since it does with cats. My cat developed > diabetes and then a short time later Inflammatory Bowel Disease. The > prednisone keeps his diarrhea under control. I know it is causing > damage to his body, but before we got things under control by using it, > he was having to be bathed 4-5 times a day because of the diarrhea. He > had to be confined to the kitchen again because of the diarrhea. He was > starting to get very depressed, and it was a very traumatic event each > time he had to be bathed. Even my husband was started to get very upset > by the baths. The prednisone controls the diarrhea so he now has full > run of the house again. He can come sit on our lap or sleep with us. > No more baths except one in a great, great while. Sometimes quality is > better than quantity. IMHO. > Darcy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Darcy and Missy, Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so good. - melanie@... To err is human - to forgive canine. Re: Pets & Prednisone OT > > > parrot004@... wrote: > > > > Not to change the subject, but my dog takes Prednisone as well. I have to > > administer it when he has a bad reaction to something allergy wise...For > > instance an adverse reaction to his shots. Thankfully I have not had to use > > it often, but I wonder if it has the same negitive effects on dogs as humans. > > I'm willing to bet it does since it does with cats. My cat developed > diabetes and then a short time later Inflammatory Bowel Disease. The > prednisone keeps his diarrhea under control. I know it is causing > damage to his body, but before we got things under control by using it, > he was having to be bathed 4-5 times a day because of the diarrhea. He > had to be confined to the kitchen again because of the diarrhea. He was > starting to get very depressed, and it was a very traumatic event each > time he had to be bathed. Even my husband was started to get very upset > by the baths. The prednisone controls the diarrhea so he now has full > run of the house again. He can come sit on our lap or sleep with us. > No more baths except one in a great, great while. Sometimes quality is > better than quantity. IMHO. > Darcy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Darcy and Missy, Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so good. - melanie@... To err is human - to forgive canine. Re: Pets & Prednisone OT > > > parrot004@... wrote: > > > > Not to change the subject, but my dog takes Prednisone as well. I have to > > administer it when he has a bad reaction to something allergy wise...For > > instance an adverse reaction to his shots. Thankfully I have not had to use > > it often, but I wonder if it has the same negitive effects on dogs as humans. > > I'm willing to bet it does since it does with cats. My cat developed > diabetes and then a short time later Inflammatory Bowel Disease. The > prednisone keeps his diarrhea under control. I know it is causing > damage to his body, but before we got things under control by using it, > he was having to be bathed 4-5 times a day because of the diarrhea. He > had to be confined to the kitchen again because of the diarrhea. He was > starting to get very depressed, and it was a very traumatic event each > time he had to be bathed. Even my husband was started to get very upset > by the baths. The prednisone controls the diarrhea so he now has full > run of the house again. He can come sit on our lap or sleep with us. > No more baths except one in a great, great while. Sometimes quality is > better than quantity. IMHO. > Darcy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 In a message dated 08/08/2002 10:19:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time, parrot004@... writes: > actually cracks open and bleeds aww bless his lil' heart....My friend that lives in New York, just helped shut down a puppy mill in Missouri about 6 months ago. I think these people doing this should be taken to the streets and shot. They are VERY SCARY...and sad. I hope your lil' man gets better and eventually " hopefully " you won't have to give him these shots. Bless his heart.... Allicia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 I am aware of the " bust " you are referring to in Missouri. It was HUGE! Good for him! Missy > aww bless his lil' heart....My friend that lives in New York, just helped > shut down a puppy mill in Missouri about 6 months ago. I think these people > doing this should be taken to the streets and shot. They are VERY > SCARY...and > sad. I hope your lil' man gets better and eventually " hopefully " you won't > have to give him these shots. Bless his heart.... > Allicia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 parrot004@... wrote: > >..He hates his injections (not that I blame him). > But he stops 2 feet from me and looks so sad...then, when I finally get him > over to me, he rolls on his belly because he knows he gets the injection in > the nape of the neck (between his shoulder blades). Can you use a thinner needle? The needles we use on Bart are so fine, he doesn't even know they're going in most of the time. We were told to inject him in his armpit. Every great once in a while, if you get the wrong angle, he'll cry for a second, but that's it. If you want the size/type of needle we use, let me know. He gets 8.25 cc of insulin, so it's good for large amounts of liquid. Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 wrote: > Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long > term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so > good. Thanks for letting me know this. The cat that is on it, is dh absolute favorite cat. He would be upset if anything happened to him. He'll be glad to hear that yours has done so well on it. Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 wrote: > Cats can assimilate pred much better than dogs. Cats can be on it long > term, dogs canNOT. I have one cat on it now for 4 years so far so > good. Thanks for letting me know this. The cat that is on it, is dh absolute favorite cat. He would be upset if anything happened to him. He'll be glad to hear that yours has done so well on it. Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 I have the smallest needles available. My best friend is the boss of a medical supply place I lost the sharp tip the other day and it went right into my big toe. I didn't even know it. Sure enough when I looked down for it, it was dangling on the top of my toe...had to get another one. I would not want Giz to catch my Fibro! LOL He is just a big wus, and he knows that I pity him. The more pitiful he is, the more cheese in the end. He's not stupid...I am. I also think that his problem is that his skin is so hypersensitive that he feels everything intense. After he has that shot he is at the fridge in 2 secs or less. Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 I have the smallest needles available. My best friend is the boss of a medical supply place I lost the sharp tip the other day and it went right into my big toe. I didn't even know it. Sure enough when I looked down for it, it was dangling on the top of my toe...had to get another one. I would not want Giz to catch my Fibro! LOL He is just a big wus, and he knows that I pity him. The more pitiful he is, the more cheese in the end. He's not stupid...I am. I also think that his problem is that his skin is so hypersensitive that he feels everything intense. After he has that shot he is at the fridge in 2 secs or less. Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 I have the smallest needles available. My best friend is the boss of a medical supply place I lost the sharp tip the other day and it went right into my big toe. I didn't even know it. Sure enough when I looked down for it, it was dangling on the top of my toe...had to get another one. I would not want Giz to catch my Fibro! LOL He is just a big wus, and he knows that I pity him. The more pitiful he is, the more cheese in the end. He's not stupid...I am. I also think that his problem is that his skin is so hypersensitive that he feels everything intense. After he has that shot he is at the fridge in 2 secs or less. Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Giz sais " The darn cats win everything! " Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Giz sais " The darn cats win everything! " Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 In a message dated 08/10/2002 3:03:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, catstamp@... writes: > Giggle! Sounds like he has your number, big time! Bart gets his shot, > then his medicine, and then his partial can of kitty cat food! He > doesn't mind the shot, but he'll run when he knows it's medicine time, > sometimes. He then flounced into the kitchen and yells that you need to > get his food to him quicker. > Darcy > > My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs his mommy more than Gizmo. I had him & two of the cats at the vet at the same time and my angora was a mess...Scared as heck. She peed in the carrier, was shedding hair, and threw up twice. Gizzy was like...Be darned with that cat! He groaned gowled and whined until I picked him up, at which point he actually weasels himself up until he is sitting on my shoulder, front paws on my head...He must think that it's safer there...See...a big wus. I cannot put him down for a second. Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 In a message dated 08/10/2002 3:03:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, catstamp@... writes: > Giggle! Sounds like he has your number, big time! Bart gets his shot, > then his medicine, and then his partial can of kitty cat food! He > doesn't mind the shot, but he'll run when he knows it's medicine time, > sometimes. He then flounced into the kitchen and yells that you need to > get his food to him quicker. > Darcy > > My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs his mommy more than Gizmo. I had him & two of the cats at the vet at the same time and my angora was a mess...Scared as heck. She peed in the carrier, was shedding hair, and threw up twice. Gizzy was like...Be darned with that cat! He groaned gowled and whined until I picked him up, at which point he actually weasels himself up until he is sitting on my shoulder, front paws on my head...He must think that it's safer there...See...a big wus. I cannot put him down for a second. Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 In a message dated 08/10/2002 3:03:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, catstamp@... writes: > Giggle! Sounds like he has your number, big time! Bart gets his shot, > then his medicine, and then his partial can of kitty cat food! He > doesn't mind the shot, but he'll run when he knows it's medicine time, > sometimes. He then flounced into the kitchen and yells that you need to > get his food to him quicker. > Darcy > > My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs his mommy more than Gizmo. I had him & two of the cats at the vet at the same time and my angora was a mess...Scared as heck. She peed in the carrier, was shedding hair, and threw up twice. Gizzy was like...Be darned with that cat! He groaned gowled and whined until I picked him up, at which point he actually weasels himself up until he is sitting on my shoulder, front paws on my head...He must think that it's safer there...See...a big wus. I cannot put him down for a second. Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 parrot004@... wrote: > > He is just a big wus, and he knows that I pity him. The more pitiful he is, > the more cheese in the end. He's not stupid...I am. Giggle! Sounds like he has your number, big time! Bart gets his shot, then his medicine, and then his partial can of kitty cat food! He doesn't mind the shot, but he'll run when he knows it's medicine time, sometimes. He then flounced into the kitchen and yells that you need to get his food to him quicker. Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 parrot004@... wrote: > My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs > his mommy more than I'm not sure which is the bigger baby, Bart does well at the vets since he's been there so much for the diabetes (in the beginning). Now he'll stroll out of the carrier, and hang out on the table while the other cats get examined, he's relaxed and " cool man " . On the other hand, if he even *thinks* his people have abandoned him (gone to the garage for literally less than three minutes, or just quiet on the computer), he'll walk around with one of his stuff toys in his mouth and moan loudly like he's been abandoned! Micky didn't have a good first couple of vet experiments, so he'll tremble, and try and hide in/under me. He's a big believer in the ostrich theory, if you can't see them, they can't see you! Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 parrot004@... wrote: > My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs > his mommy more than I'm not sure which is the bigger baby, Bart does well at the vets since he's been there so much for the diabetes (in the beginning). Now he'll stroll out of the carrier, and hang out on the table while the other cats get examined, he's relaxed and " cool man " . On the other hand, if he even *thinks* his people have abandoned him (gone to the garage for literally less than three minutes, or just quiet on the computer), he'll walk around with one of his stuff toys in his mouth and moan loudly like he's been abandoned! Micky didn't have a good first couple of vet experiments, so he'll tremble, and try and hide in/under me. He's a big believer in the ostrich theory, if you can't see them, they can't see you! Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 parrot004@... wrote: > My vet made a comment last month that she does not know of any dog that needs > his mommy more than I'm not sure which is the bigger baby, Bart does well at the vets since he's been there so much for the diabetes (in the beginning). Now he'll stroll out of the carrier, and hang out on the table while the other cats get examined, he's relaxed and " cool man " . On the other hand, if he even *thinks* his people have abandoned him (gone to the garage for literally less than three minutes, or just quiet on the computer), he'll walk around with one of his stuff toys in his mouth and moan loudly like he's been abandoned! Micky didn't have a good first couple of vet experiments, so he'll tremble, and try and hide in/under me. He's a big believer in the ostrich theory, if you can't see them, they can't see you! Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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