Re: From Mick's husband

[Guest guest]

I also had IBS and had been diagnosed with it over 4 years ago. When I first

started my fruit and veggie diet it was very hard, and very painful. But I

stuck with it as it was helping me so much in other areas. It only lasted a few

weeks and it finally got better. Now I have no problems at all with raw fruits

and veggies.

Allicia21@... wrote:In a message dated 08/08/2002 11:16:29 AM US Eastern

Standard Time,

catstamp@... writes:

> IBS that we can not tolerate raw fruit or veggies

This is very true...my mother bless her soul...is having a really really hard

time with her IBS and her veggie/ fruit diet she is on...>VERY ROUGH TIME!!!

[Guest guest]

Hello a,

I am so glad to hear that you are going to give it a try:) Woo Hoo for you!! I

will help you anyway that I can. It was so hard to change a lifetime of bad

habits. Everyday was a struggle for me. Financially at first it was hard

because my family wanted to keep their bad diets so we were adding my diet to an

already stressed budget. But eventually they came around and now we all eat

pretty healthy. I still eat red meat on occassion. The main thing for me is

processed foods, sugar, and white flour. Any one of these things will cause me

to have symptoms within 18 hours of eating them. I never noticed before,

because that is all I ate. I hope and pray that this diet will bring to you,

what it brought to me:)

Peace and blessings always,

Mick

a

wrote:To Steve and MICK,

If it brings any help to what you have been through

and I hope it does put a smile on both of your

faces...You are doing what you think is best. I truly

believe that. I believe if it helped Mick, then it

could possibly help me. And it is hard, once someone

is used to fixing hotdogs and fast food for the family

because it is easy and fast with our fast lives today,

IT IS HARD to fix veggies and fruits instead. But you

do have to make it a habit just as well as the other

was a HABIT. I am trying this diet and cutting down on

my red meats, in fact I haven't ate red meat in one

week now. More fruits and veggies. Gosh, I never

thought I could ever stomach all the fruits and

veggies I have eaten instead of the JUNK I was used to

eating. We went last night after my first Physical

Therapy visit and emptied out 1/2 of my Mom's freezer

of her frozen veggies from the garden to not only help

us out with our supply of veggies without all the

processed stuff added but also give her room for her

newly picked veggies.

I wanted to thank you both for not only the good ideas

to try and get over this daily pain that I know we all

have but also thank you for your support you have

personally showed me MICK. I believe that everyone

needs to keep an open mind in a support group and

should not be so harsh on others.

I have really enjoyed being a part of this support

group and I thank you all for all the information I

have learned especially since I have only suffered

from this extremely since May of this year.But with

the Elavil my doctor has prescribed me at night to

take, The Ultracet for Pain, the diet change, and now

the physical therapy, I believe that I will eventually

feel a whole lot better, (Fingers crossed and lots of

prayer).

Thank you also STeve for the heartfelt story I just

read. I just cried, because I could relate to some of

it and felt for you and your family for the things

that I have not experienced. I believe you two are

very strong people that have beat the odds and I am

very proud of you.

God Bless,

a Faye

--- mickness36 mickness36@...> wrote:

>

> I would like to give my perspective of Mick and her

> battle with fibromyalgia/cfs. A typical day began

> with me hearing her wake up at two in the morning.

> I would hear her softly cry from the living room but

> I would stay in bed because there was no confort

> that I could give to her. I would be exhausted

> because I had been up until way past midnight

> researching the information regarding her syptoms.

> I would be exhausted because the day before I had

> gotten the kids to school, cooked all the meals,

> done all the cleaning and worked my job and Mick

> could barely walk to the bathroom alone. I had

> watched my children as they tip toed through the

> house, hoping for the day they could act like normal

> healthy noisy kids. I would see in their eyes how

> they had been forced to block out this woman that

> lived on the sofa in our house. I would watch as

> they tried to show her the drawing that they had

> done and the dissappointement in their eyes when

> Mick did not have the strength to respond to their

> pictures. I would worry about when the Dr. would

> try to stop her pain meds and each new test result

> that came back showing almost normal ranges. I

> would watch as the guilt ripped Mick apart from her

> lack of involvement in our lives and the fact that

> she felt herself a drain upon our family. The bouts

> of depression that were suicidal in nature were

> frightenning. The many many trips to the emergency

> room and the ignorance of the doctors in their

> inability to find a cause for her pain. The many

> tests that we were charged thousands and thousands

> of dollars for that came back negative. Suicide

> seemed to MIck to be her only option and I was

> constantly attempting to talk her out of it. One day

> MIck and I made a deal, that included that if she

> would give me six months, and I had found no answers

> for her and no relief, that I would assist in her

> suicide. This gave me six months to find and answer

> and I spent hours in study of the syndromes she had

> been diagnosed with.

>

> I read every study done from guifenesen, to viral

> studies. From funded studies posted in the journal

> of American Medicine, from Rhemetology Journals,

> Internal Medicine, Neurologists, etc etc. My first

> big discovery was the ignorance of Doctors and

> researchers regarding the cause. They posed theory

> after theory but either the tests were not funded or

> the results were varied. Soon I noticed that those

> studies that had some success had a common

> denominator. I got exited and spent weeks verifiing

> my theory. Each and every success story shared on

> thing in common, THEY ALL INCLUDED A NATURAL FRUIT

> AND VEGETABLE AND LOW FAT DIET THAT RESTRICTED

> ADDITIVES AND AN EXCERCISE PROGRAM!!!! Exited I

> presented my information to Mick and she responded

> the same way that many of you responed to her. She

> did not equate diet and exercise with her symtoms

> nor did she want to believe her doctors were wrong.

> She did not believe it would work at all and she

> shot it down. | could not force her to accept the

> information and I was devastated as I knew that she

> was choosing to stay in her world of pain.

>

> Months passed and then one day Mick got a book from

> the library thinking it was a gardening book

> entitled Back to Eden by Jethro Klaus. I am not

> selling this book I am just telling it like it is.

> She saw in those pages the same thing that I had

> been telling her and I was elated. Mick began with

> a totally fruit diet, and immediately got diarea.

> She was still taking her pain medication and sleep

> medication. After three days her brain fog began to

> lift. She slowly began to add vegetables into her

> diet over the next week and began to follow a

> program called SIT AND BE FIT that was designed for

> those who could not exercise normally. She began

> slowely to begin walking. At first it was across

> the room. Then out to the mail box. Then slowely

> and painfully out to the road. She began to wean

> herself off her her medications and her bowel

> movements began to improve dramatically. She no

> longer had any brain fog and the the pain began to

> appear less and less. Her exercise program got more

> and more intense and soon she could walk farther and

> faster than I could. The woman that I married had

> returned to me. My children had their mother back.

> Yes there is an occasional event or slip up on the

> diet but as long as she stays with her diet and

> excercise she is now symptom free. The eighteen

> pressure points do not exist any more. No brain

> fog. She sleeps each night. She no longer walks

> with a cane. Mick can actually RU N!!!!!!

>

> For those of you who discount Micks story I would

> submit the following:

>

> Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue syndrom affects 7

> percent of the population. It began in the early 18

> hundreds with the influx of food additives that are

> used in our food. The doctors say that there is no

> cure and some even suggest that it is non-existant.

> I submit that we have found the cure. I submit that

> Doctors are ignorant as to any aspect of the

> syndrome. If you choose to follow the advise of

> doctors who admit that they do not understand the

> syndrome you will get worse. If you choose to be

> well you will try anything, no matter how simple.

> What Mick has been trying to offer is the simplest

> yet hardest solutioin. It requires that you

> completely altar your lifestyle. It costs little or

> nothing. The only thing you need to give is three

> months of your time and willpower. If you stick to

> the diet you will get better. If you do not you

> will not get better. That you fight against the

> information that MIck is offering to you free of

> charge, from a person who suffered more symptoms and

> pain than most of you diagnosed with the syndromes,

> is the epitome of ridiculous. That you would rather

> take the advise of those who do not nor ever have

> suffered and have never recovered from the syndrom

> is nothing short of amazing. Mick has been there,

> she spent six years living (or not living) through

> those moments that you all know and had found a

> cure. That you discount her information, that you

> find it simplistic, that you would rather spend a

> fortune on this medication and that medication, on

> hospital visits and test after test is silly. That

> you would rather keep your processed foods and lay

> on the couch not trying to get better is crazy. It

> took years for you to aquire the syndrom and yet you

> will not spend 3 months of discipline trying to cure

> it. I have my lovely, healthy wife back. My

> children have their loving mother back. We are a

> family again. Is it not worth three months to you?

> |Have you not yet come to that point where you will

> do anything to get better. Would you rather spend

> your energies fighting against what MIck is telling

> you?

>

> It is your choice....

>

> Steve

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Deb,

Thank you so much for you wonderful email:) I am very thankful that I have the

husband I do! I would of never believed that I would be a vegan (almost) at some

point in my life. I really thought I had a pretty good diet. But when I read

the book " Back to Eden " I realized it had been years since I had a piece of

fruit. I rarely ate veggies aside from corn and potatoes. Almost all the food

I bought was processed foods. And I just never realized what I was doing to my

body. I never realized that fruits and veggies could give you more energy than

a cup of coffee. There was just so much that I didn't know. It has changed my

life so much that I just had to share it with others who suffers as I did. I

wish you the very best! And maybe we can share some recipes!

Peace and blessings always and forever,

Mick

kissssmycandy wrote:What a loving husband, you both are so lucky to have one

another! I

for one have nothing to lose by trying what you have discovered.

About a million years ago(24 actually) I used to be a vegetarian. I

always felt so good, it's not going to be that hard for me to go back

to a healthier way of eating, and once the pain lessens a bit, I'm

sure the exercise will be the same. I'm looking forward to payday

tomorrow so I can get out and buy some fruits and vegies.

I spend many nights the same way Mick did , and haven't slept in a

bed for a year and a half. Is 3 hours a night actually considered

SLEEP?

Thank you for sharing your exeriences! If changing my eating and some

exercise gives me a more normal life I am all for any effort it may

take. What's the worst thing that could happen? I could lose some

weight and become addicted to good food! Oh horrors, just imagine!

A blessed day to all... deb

>

> I would like to give my perspective of Mick and her battle with

fibromyalgia/cfs. A typical day began with me hearing her wake up at

two in the morning. I would hear her softly cry from the living room

but I would stay in bed because there was no confort that I could

give to her. I would be exhausted because I had been up until way

past midnight researching the information regarding her syptoms. I

would be exhausted because the day before I had gotten the kids to

school, cooked all the meals, done all the cleaning and worked my job

and Mick could barely walk to the bathroom alone. I had watched my

children as they tip toed through the house, hoping for the day they

could act like normal healthy noisy kids. I would see in their eyes

how they had been forced to block out this woman that lived on the

sofa in our house. I would watch as they tried to show her the

drawing that they had done and the dissappointement in their eyes

when Mick did not have the strength to respond to their pictures. I

would worry about when the Dr. would try to stop her pain meds and

each new test result that came back showing almost normal ranges. I

would watch as the guilt ripped Mick apart from her lack of

involvement in our lives and the fact that she felt herself a drain

upon our family. The bouts of depression that were suicidal in

nature were frightenning. The many many trips to the emergency room

and the ignorance of the doctors in their inability to find a cause

for her pain. The many tests that we were charged thousands and

thousands of dollars for that came back negative. Suicide seemed to

MIck to be her only option and I was constantly attempting to talk

her out of it. One day MIck and I made a deal, that included that if

she would give me six months, and I had found no answers for her and

no relief, that I would assist in her suicide. This gave me six

months to find and answer and I spent hours in study of the syndromes

she had been diagnosed with.

>

> I read every study done from guifenesen, to viral studies. From

funded studies posted in the journal of American Medicine, from

Rhemetology Journals, Internal Medicine, Neurologists, etc etc. My

first big discovery was the ignorance of Doctors and researchers

regarding the cause. They posed theory after theory but either the

tests were not funded or the results were varied. Soon I noticed

that those studies that had some success had a common denominator. I

got exited and spent weeks verifiing my theory. Each and every

success story shared on thing in common, THEY ALL INCLUDED A NATURAL

FRUIT AND VEGETABLE AND LOW FAT DIET THAT RESTRICTED ADDITIVES AND AN

EXCERCISE PROGRAM!!!! Exited I presented my information to Mick and

she responded the same way that many of you responed to her. She did

not equate diet and exercise with her symtoms nor did she want to

believe her doctors were wrong. She did not believe it would work at

all and she shot it down. | could not force her to accept the

information and I was devastated as I knew that she was choosing to

stay in her world of pain.

>

> Months passed and then one day Mick got a book from the library

thinking it was a gardening book entitled Back to Eden by Jethro

Klaus. I am not selling this book I am just telling it like it is.

She saw in those pages the same thing that I had been telling her and

I was elated. Mick began with a totally fruit diet, and immediately

got diarea. She was still taking her pain medication and sleep

medication. After three days her brain fog began to lift. She

slowly began to add vegetables into her diet over the next week and

began to follow a program called SIT AND BE FIT that was designed for

those who could not exercise normally. She began slowely to begin

walking. At first it was across the room. Then out to the mail

box. Then slowely and painfully out to the road. She began to wean

herself off her her medications and her bowel movements began to

improve dramatically. She no longer had any brain fog and the the

pain began to appear less and less. Her exercise program got more

and more intense and soon she could walk farther and faster than I

could. The woman that I married had returned to me. My children had

their mother back. Yes there is an occasional event or slip up on

the diet but as long as she stays with her diet and excercise she is

now symptom free. The eighteen pressure points do not exist any

more. No brain fog. She sleeps each night. She no longer walks with

a cane. Mick can actually RU N!!!!!!

>

> For those of you who discount Micks story I would submit the

following:

>

> Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue syndrom affects 7 percent of the

population. It began in the early 18 hundreds with the influx of

food additives that are used in our food. The doctors say that there

is no cure and some even suggest that it is non-existant. I submit

that we have found the cure. I submit that Doctors are ignorant as to

any aspect of the syndrome. If you choose to follow the advise of

doctors who admit that they do not understand the syndrome you will

get worse. If you choose to be well you will try anything, no matter

how simple. What Mick has been trying to offer is the simplest yet

hardest solutioin. It requires that you completely altar your

lifestyle. It costs little or nothing. The only thing you need to

give is three months of your time and willpower. If you stick to the

diet you will get better. If you do not you will not get better.

That you fight against the information that MIck is offering to you

free of charge, from a person who suffered more symptoms and pain

than most of you diagnosed with the syndromes, is the epitome of

ridiculous. That you would rather take the advise of those who do

not nor ever have suffered and have never recovered from the syndrom

is nothing short of amazing. Mick has been there, she spent six

years living (or not living) through those moments that you all know

and had found a cure. That you discount her information, that you

find it simplistic, that you would rather spend a fortune on this

medication and that medication, on hospital visits and test after

test is silly. That you would rather keep your processed foods and

lay on the couch not trying to get better is crazy. It took years

for you to aquire the syndrom and yet you will not spend 3 months of

discipline trying to cure it. I have my lovely, healthy wife back.

My children have their loving mother back. We are a family again.

Is it not worth three months to you? |Have you not yet come to that

point where you will do anything to get better. Would you rather

spend your energies fighting against what MIck is telling you?

>

> It is your choice....

>

> Steve

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>