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In a message dated 08/28/2002 6:08:03 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

catstamp@... writes:

> Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

> grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

>

Darcy,

How I noticed I was grinding my teeth besides waking myself in the

middle of the night with the noise..(YUCK) my jaw bones ache bad. Everytime I

open my mouth wide to yawn or to stick food in it...my jaw bone pops really

LOUD....Sometimes it will lock...litterally lock in place when I'm

yawning...now tell me that isn't a stupid look...lol its horrible.I grind my

teeth constantly, but the dentist said I don't notice it because it is what

my mind thinks is " normal "

Another way to tell is if the tops of your teeth are flat...my fathers

and grandfathers are like this...from grinding their teeth all these years. I

also get bad head aches that start of the top of the jaw bone and aches down

into the the henge I guess you would call it...

I have a mouth guard I try to wear, but like I stated before I must

take it out in the middle of the night because I have to scurry through the

sheets in the morning to find it..lol The dentist advised me that if this

doesn't help that he would break my jaw and wire my mouth shut and let it

re-heal right....(YUCK) I just think him and my mom have this deal going so I

won't be able to talk for 3 months...lol

Here are some symptoms I got off a web site. Hope this helps...They

call it TMD, but I have always heard it called TMJ...tomato/ tomado

Pain, particularly in the chewing muscles and/or jaw joint, is the most

common symptom. Other likely symptoms include:

limited movement or locking of the jaw,

radiating pain in the face, neck or shoulders,

painful clicking, popping or grating sounds in the jaw joint when opening or

closing the mouth.

a sudden, major change in the way the upper and lower teeth fit

together.Symptoms such as headaches, earaches, dizziness and hearing problems

may sometimes be related to TMD

Good luck,

Allicia

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In a message dated 08/28/2002 6:08:03 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

catstamp@... writes:

> Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

> grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

>

Darcy,

How I noticed I was grinding my teeth besides waking myself in the

middle of the night with the noise..(YUCK) my jaw bones ache bad. Everytime I

open my mouth wide to yawn or to stick food in it...my jaw bone pops really

LOUD....Sometimes it will lock...litterally lock in place when I'm

yawning...now tell me that isn't a stupid look...lol its horrible.I grind my

teeth constantly, but the dentist said I don't notice it because it is what

my mind thinks is " normal "

Another way to tell is if the tops of your teeth are flat...my fathers

and grandfathers are like this...from grinding their teeth all these years. I

also get bad head aches that start of the top of the jaw bone and aches down

into the the henge I guess you would call it...

I have a mouth guard I try to wear, but like I stated before I must

take it out in the middle of the night because I have to scurry through the

sheets in the morning to find it..lol The dentist advised me that if this

doesn't help that he would break my jaw and wire my mouth shut and let it

re-heal right....(YUCK) I just think him and my mom have this deal going so I

won't be able to talk for 3 months...lol

Here are some symptoms I got off a web site. Hope this helps...They

call it TMD, but I have always heard it called TMJ...tomato/ tomado

Pain, particularly in the chewing muscles and/or jaw joint, is the most

common symptom. Other likely symptoms include:

limited movement or locking of the jaw,

radiating pain in the face, neck or shoulders,

painful clicking, popping or grating sounds in the jaw joint when opening or

closing the mouth.

a sudden, major change in the way the upper and lower teeth fit

together.Symptoms such as headaches, earaches, dizziness and hearing problems

may sometimes be related to TMD

Good luck,

Allicia

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I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth? I

know my dentist had several years ago it looked like I had been, but I

think I stopped. He never mentioned it again or suggested wearing a

mouth guard.

Lately the one section of teeth has been bothering me, it feels like the

top of the teeth. Then last week, it felt like I had a cavity in a

tooth on the other side of my mouth. It's slowly been getting worse and

is more sensitive to cold stuff. Now the teeth behind that one feel

like they're aching in on the tops.

So could my cavity actually be a tooth starting to split from grinding?

Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

Thanks

Darcy

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Darcy wrote, > So could my cavity actually be a tooth starting to split from

> grinding?

> Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

> grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

> Thanks

I had to have a cavity filled again because the filling was starting to

crumble. My dentist said that it looked like I had not been wearing my night

guard every night as I was supposed and yes, my teeth did ache before I

started wearing the night guard and your jaw will be hurt very badly if you

grind them for a long time before getting a night guard.

Take care,

Irene

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Alice Hoffman

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Darcy wrote, > So could my cavity actually be a tooth starting to split from

> grinding?

> Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

> grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

> Thanks

I had to have a cavity filled again because the filling was starting to

crumble. My dentist said that it looked like I had not been wearing my night

guard every night as I was supposed and yes, my teeth did ache before I

started wearing the night guard and your jaw will be hurt very badly if you

grind them for a long time before getting a night guard.

Take care,

Irene

Books may well be the only true magic

Alice Hoffman

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Odette wrote, > All I can say is that you just ask your dentist to fit one for

> you, just to see if it helps.

My night guard helps but I got it to late. About one-third on my teeth had

been ground away from the grinding at night. Also the dentist had to file

some of my teeth down. So, if you are having trouble with grinding of your

teeth, I would really advise a night guard. They are a little hard to get

use to but once you do, they are a big help. I have a tendency some nights

to take it out and loss it in the bed clothes or once I found it in the

closet so I must have tossed it.

I would like to have my teeth capped but it would cost $25,000 to do and if I

had that amount of money, there are other, more important things I could use

it for.

Take care,

Irene

Books may well be the only true magic

Alice Hoffman

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Odette wrote, > All I can say is that you just ask your dentist to fit one for

> you, just to see if it helps.

My night guard helps but I got it to late. About one-third on my teeth had

been ground away from the grinding at night. Also the dentist had to file

some of my teeth down. So, if you are having trouble with grinding of your

teeth, I would really advise a night guard. They are a little hard to get

use to but once you do, they are a big help. I have a tendency some nights

to take it out and loss it in the bed clothes or once I found it in the

closet so I must have tossed it.

I would like to have my teeth capped but it would cost $25,000 to do and if I

had that amount of money, there are other, more important things I could use

it for.

Take care,

Irene

Books may well be the only true magic

Alice Hoffman

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Hi Again Darcy,

We seem to be alike in somethings.

I have had this problem with my jaw clicking everytiime I chew, yawn, speak

etc..... I got sent to a orthodontist at the hospital and they said that the

reason for my jaw creaking ws due to me grinding my teeth at night... This was

news to me, but they told me to where a mouth guard at night. It helps in

keeping me from grinding my teeth but has had no effect on the clicking. But my

teeth are fine, only 3 fillings so far at the age of 26... thats big here, most

of my family have had them since teenage years.

All I can say is that you just ask your dentist to fit one for you, just to see

if it helps.

Hugs

Odette

---- Original Message -----

From: Darcy Stockstill

To: cfs

Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:58 AM

Subject: teeth grinding-Irene or whoever

I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth? I

know my dentist had several years ago it looked like I had been, but I

think I stopped. He never mentioned it again or suggested wearing a

mouth guard.

Lately the one section of teeth has been bothering me, it feels like the

top of the teeth. Then last week, it felt like I had a cavity in a

tooth on the other side of my mouth. It's slowly been getting worse and

is more sensitive to cold stuff. Now the teeth behind that one feel

like they're aching in on the tops.

So could my cavity actually be a tooth starting to split from grinding?

Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

Thanks

Darcy

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Hi Again Darcy,

We seem to be alike in somethings.

I have had this problem with my jaw clicking everytiime I chew, yawn, speak

etc..... I got sent to a orthodontist at the hospital and they said that the

reason for my jaw creaking ws due to me grinding my teeth at night... This was

news to me, but they told me to where a mouth guard at night. It helps in

keeping me from grinding my teeth but has had no effect on the clicking. But my

teeth are fine, only 3 fillings so far at the age of 26... thats big here, most

of my family have had them since teenage years.

All I can say is that you just ask your dentist to fit one for you, just to see

if it helps.

Hugs

Odette

---- Original Message -----

From: Darcy Stockstill

To: cfs

Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:58 AM

Subject: teeth grinding-Irene or whoever

I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth? I

know my dentist had several years ago it looked like I had been, but I

think I stopped. He never mentioned it again or suggested wearing a

mouth guard.

Lately the one section of teeth has been bothering me, it feels like the

top of the teeth. Then last week, it felt like I had a cavity in a

tooth on the other side of my mouth. It's slowly been getting worse and

is more sensitive to cold stuff. Now the teeth behind that one feel

like they're aching in on the tops.

So could my cavity actually be a tooth starting to split from grinding?

Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

Thanks

Darcy

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-I am having some teeth problems lately. They will get sensitive and

a few will hurt then quit. I have noticed my teeth get really

sensitive and hurt when it has been a long time since I have a

cleaning. The last time it was 8 years since I had a cleaning from

the dentist. I told him I thought every tooth in my head had a

cavity. I only had one small one and boy did my teeth feel better

after the cleaning. I can tell its time again. Also whitening

toothpaste can make teeth sensitive. Hope this helps.

-- In @y..., Darcy Stockstill wrote:

> I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth? I

> know my dentist had several years ago it looked like I had been,

but I

> think I stopped. He never mentioned it again or suggested wearing a

> mouth guard.

>

> Lately the one section of teeth has been bothering me, it feels

like the

> top of the teeth. Then last week, it felt like I had a cavity in a

> tooth on the other side of my mouth. It's slowly been getting worse

and

> is more sensitive to cold stuff. Now the teeth behind that one feel

> like they're aching in on the tops.

>

> So could my cavity actually be a tooth starting to split from

grinding?

> Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

> grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

> Thanks

> Darcy

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-I am having some teeth problems lately. They will get sensitive and

a few will hurt then quit. I have noticed my teeth get really

sensitive and hurt when it has been a long time since I have a

cleaning. The last time it was 8 years since I had a cleaning from

the dentist. I told him I thought every tooth in my head had a

cavity. I only had one small one and boy did my teeth feel better

after the cleaning. I can tell its time again. Also whitening

toothpaste can make teeth sensitive. Hope this helps.

-- In @y..., Darcy Stockstill wrote:

> I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth? I

> know my dentist had several years ago it looked like I had been,

but I

> think I stopped. He never mentioned it again or suggested wearing a

> mouth guard.

>

> Lately the one section of teeth has been bothering me, it feels

like the

> top of the teeth. Then last week, it felt like I had a cavity in a

> tooth on the other side of my mouth. It's slowly been getting worse

and

> is more sensitive to cold stuff. Now the teeth behind that one feel

> like they're aching in on the tops.

>

> So could my cavity actually be a tooth starting to split from

grinding?

> Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

> grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

> Thanks

> Darcy

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Darcy,

I've been grinding my teeth in my sleep for nearly 20 years and not

one of them has " split " yet so you can take some comfort from that.

Yes, my teeth do have increased sensitivity when I forget to wear

my " splint " device (thin plastic molded by a dental specialist to

exactly fit over your teeth and prevent grinding).

My tooth grinding pain is usually felt most in the back teeth on the

bottom. In addition, I know I've been grinding if my jaws are tight

or sore when I wake up. Another way to check about grinding that my

dentist and my TMJ specialist have told me about is to see if there's

pain when you press in with your fingertips at the indention of your

temples (jaw muscles are attached there and overuse or misuse can

cause those muscles to be extremely tender).

The way the dentist knows you grind is from the pattern of wear on

your teeth and it may be that the dentist(s) didn't mentioned it

again is because they think you already know. I would recommend

making it a point to ask the dentist about teeth grinding the next

time you have an appointment.

I also suffer from TMJ (temporo-mandibular joint dysfunction) and I

am aware that I also unconsciously grind my teeth during waking hours

when I am concentrating (while driving in heavy traffic or working on

the family budget, for example). One " trick " to minimize this is to

follow the rule " Lips together, teeth apart " where you try to get in

the habit of keeping the teeth from actually touching unless you are

speaking or eating.

While certainly not everyone who grinds their teeth also has this

disorder, my TMJ specialist has seen a growing number of patients who

have been diagnosed with both TMJ (or TMD as it is more often called

now) and Fibromyalgia so it wouldn't hurt to be checked out.

If you would like more information about TMJ/TMD please feel free to

email me. You can contact me offlist if you would prefer at

danabeth@... or ionlyget5@....

> I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth? I

> know my dentist had several years ago it looked like I had been,

but I

> think I stopped. He never mentioned it again or suggested wearing a

> mouth guard.

>

> Darcy

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Darcy,

I've been grinding my teeth in my sleep for nearly 20 years and not

one of them has " split " yet so you can take some comfort from that.

Yes, my teeth do have increased sensitivity when I forget to wear

my " splint " device (thin plastic molded by a dental specialist to

exactly fit over your teeth and prevent grinding).

My tooth grinding pain is usually felt most in the back teeth on the

bottom. In addition, I know I've been grinding if my jaws are tight

or sore when I wake up. Another way to check about grinding that my

dentist and my TMJ specialist have told me about is to see if there's

pain when you press in with your fingertips at the indention of your

temples (jaw muscles are attached there and overuse or misuse can

cause those muscles to be extremely tender).

The way the dentist knows you grind is from the pattern of wear on

your teeth and it may be that the dentist(s) didn't mentioned it

again is because they think you already know. I would recommend

making it a point to ask the dentist about teeth grinding the next

time you have an appointment.

I also suffer from TMJ (temporo-mandibular joint dysfunction) and I

am aware that I also unconsciously grind my teeth during waking hours

when I am concentrating (while driving in heavy traffic or working on

the family budget, for example). One " trick " to minimize this is to

follow the rule " Lips together, teeth apart " where you try to get in

the habit of keeping the teeth from actually touching unless you are

speaking or eating.

While certainly not everyone who grinds their teeth also has this

disorder, my TMJ specialist has seen a growing number of patients who

have been diagnosed with both TMJ (or TMD as it is more often called

now) and Fibromyalgia so it wouldn't hurt to be checked out.

If you would like more information about TMJ/TMD please feel free to

email me. You can contact me offlist if you would prefer at

danabeth@... or ionlyget5@....

> I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth? I

> know my dentist had several years ago it looked like I had been,

but I

> think I stopped. He never mentioned it again or suggested wearing a

> mouth guard.

>

> Darcy

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Thanks to all who wrote with their suggestions and comments. After I

read Allicia's comments about clicking or popping, I moved my jaw and it

did pop. I've had TMJ symptoms once before and they went away, so I

guess I'm hoping that happens now. But I do think I might have a cavity

as it's now reacting just to drinking water, so I'll call the dentist

next week to get an appointment. My lower jaw in the back (amazing how

others can pinpoint how your symptoms match theirs with such accuracy at

times) does hurt more than others, but this morning is the first morning

my jaws have ached. Guess I'll talk to the dentist about that when I

see him. Thanks again to all that replied.

Darcy

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Thanks to all who wrote with their suggestions and comments. After I

read Allicia's comments about clicking or popping, I moved my jaw and it

did pop. I've had TMJ symptoms once before and they went away, so I

guess I'm hoping that happens now. But I do think I might have a cavity

as it's now reacting just to drinking water, so I'll call the dentist

next week to get an appointment. My lower jaw in the back (amazing how

others can pinpoint how your symptoms match theirs with such accuracy at

times) does hurt more than others, but this morning is the first morning

my jaws have ached. Guess I'll talk to the dentist about that when I

see him. Thanks again to all that replied.

Darcy

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Thanks to all who wrote with their suggestions and comments. After I

read Allicia's comments about clicking or popping, I moved my jaw and it

did pop. I've had TMJ symptoms once before and they went away, so I

guess I'm hoping that happens now. But I do think I might have a cavity

as it's now reacting just to drinking water, so I'll call the dentist

next week to get an appointment. My lower jaw in the back (amazing how

others can pinpoint how your symptoms match theirs with such accuracy at

times) does hurt more than others, but this morning is the first morning

my jaws have ached. Guess I'll talk to the dentist about that when I

see him. Thanks again to all that replied.

Darcy

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Hi Darcy,

I hope your jaw is feeling better. If your dentist does think you might have

TMJ, please consider going to a maxiofacial surgeon. They are experts with TMJ

and will know how to take care of you, get you on the right course of action and

give you relief. I've had two very good m.s., and they have really helped me

progress from living with TMJ pain on a daily basis to being relatively jaw pain

free (then, FM reared its ugly head.)

Take care & I hope you feel better (I hope it's just a cavity; I'll keep my

fingers crossed for you)!

Beth

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Hi Darcy,

I hope your jaw is feeling better. If your dentist does think you might have

TMJ, please consider going to a maxiofacial surgeon. They are experts with TMJ

and will know how to take care of you, get you on the right course of action and

give you relief. I've had two very good m.s., and they have really helped me

progress from living with TMJ pain on a daily basis to being relatively jaw pain

free (then, FM reared its ugly head.)

Take care & I hope you feel better (I hope it's just a cavity; I'll keep my

fingers crossed for you)!

Beth

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Hi Darcy,

I hope your jaw is feeling better. If your dentist does think you might have

TMJ, please consider going to a maxiofacial surgeon. They are experts with TMJ

and will know how to take care of you, get you on the right course of action and

give you relief. I've had two very good m.s., and they have really helped me

progress from living with TMJ pain on a daily basis to being relatively jaw pain

free (then, FM reared its ugly head.)

Take care & I hope you feel better (I hope it's just a cavity; I'll keep my

fingers crossed for you)!

Beth

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I'm not being funny but teeth grinding has been known to be a symptom

of worms. (Not saying you do) I thought about wether I should post

this info and decided that, hey, gross or not it's still info and

could help.

> I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth>

Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

> grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

> Thanks

> Darcy

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I'm not being funny but teeth grinding has been known to be a symptom

of worms. (Not saying you do) I thought about wether I should post

this info and decided that, hey, gross or not it's still info and

could help.

> I'm wondering exactly how you tell if you're grinding your teeth>

Do the tops of the other teeth that gently ache mean I'm probably

> grinding my teeth? Any thoughts would help.

> Thanks

> Darcy

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In a message dated 08/31/2002 7:44:39 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

catstamp@... writes:

> please consider going to a maxiofacial surgeon

Yeah I went to a surgeon as well...and thats who told me if the guard doesn't

help that they would have to break my jaw and reset it and wire my mouth

shut....I still think him and my mom has a consipiracy going on...I think she

is pay'n him to wire my mouth shut for 3 months....lmaoo

I've decided that I'm just gonna live with the popping for now the surgery is

like 5,000.00....that I don't have...so I'm just gonna live with it.

Allicia

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indemnis4 wrote:

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> I'm not being funny but teeth grinding has been known to be a symptom

> of worms. (Not saying you do) I thought about wether I should post

> this info and decided that, hey, gross or not it's still info and

> could help.

Hey! If I have worms, they'd better be paying rent! I'm not free, gotta

make my

" retirement " money somehow!

Darcy

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indemnis4 wrote:

>

> I'm not being funny but teeth grinding has been known to be a symptom

> of worms. (Not saying you do) I thought about wether I should post

> this info and decided that, hey, gross or not it's still info and

> could help.

Hey! If I have worms, they'd better be paying rent! I'm not free, gotta

make my

" retirement " money somehow!

Darcy

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Beth wrote:

>

> Hi Darcy,

> I hope your jaw is feeling better. If your dentist does think you might have

TMJ, please consider going to a maxiofacial surgeon.

I'm not sure if my insurance would cover this. I'll have to check into

it, thanks for the suggestion.

Darcy

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