Re: HELP ME New test results and a med reduction request from doc

[Guest guest]

Hi " bluesparklepony " . First thing to tell you is that you wasted your

time reducing your dose two days before testing. ( That's not

enough time to show much lowered results...and especially with the

TSH. There is a good article in the FILES section on TSH you could

take him.

Additionally, all you need as far as labs are the FREE T3 and the

FREE T4--forget the " Thyroxine T4 " , the " Triiodothyronine T3 " and

the " T3 uptake " . Useless. IT looks like you are getting the

outdated " Thyroid Panel " and then he adds the free T3.

As far as those hypo symptoms, how long have you been on the approx.

165 mg. dose? It's about high enough to stay on it at least 4-5 weeks

to give the T4 time to build and to see the conversion to T3 results.

And the bottom line is to dose by symptoms, not by the TSH. On an

optimal dose of Armour for me--one that removes all symptoms and

leaves me with great energy--my TSH happens to fall to .009. I know

of one gal that is .004. But again, dose by symptoms, and remember to

allow your doses to stick for at least 4-5 weeks when you are getting

as high as you are.

Janie

>

> I was prescribed 120 mg of armour about 9- 10 weeks ago). I

> increased my own dose to 165(approx) mg over a few week period. Two

> days before this test, I reduced back to 120 just for the test

> results.... and here's what I got... along with the doc requesting

> that I go down to 135 mg armour and retest in 1 month....

>

> TSH 0.030L (0.350-5.500)

> Thyroxine T4 6.0ug/dl (4.5 - 12.0)

> T3 Uptake 30 (24-39)

> Free thyroxine index 1.8 (1.2 - 4.9)

> Triiodothyronine (T3) 146 ng/dl (85 - 205)

>

> The TSH is the only one that screwed me up. What argument should I

> give him to convince him that TSH isnt a good measure once your on

> meds anyway? (And its only barely out of range isnt it?) I forget

> most details and need some help on this one. Again.

> (BTW, I am having HYPO symtoms still.

[Guest guest]

If you feel fine don't reduce the dose and let the Dr. stress about

the labs.

-Anne

>

> I was prescribed 120 mg of armour about 9- 10 weeks ago). I

> increased my own dose to 165(approx) mg over a few week period.

Two

> days before this test, I reduced back to 120 just for the test

> results.... and here's what I got... along with the doc requesting

> that I go down to 135 mg armour and retest in 1 month....

>

> TSH 0.030L (0.350-5.500)

> Thyroxine T4 6.0ug/dl (4.5 - 12.0)

> T3 Uptake 30 (24-39)

> Free thyroxine index 1.8 (1.2 - 4.9)

> Triiodothyronine (T3) 146 ng/dl (85 - 205)

>

> The TSH is the only one that screwed me up. What argument should

I

> give him to convince him that TSH isnt a good measure once your on

> meds anyway? (And its only barely out of range isnt it?) I forget

> most details and need some help on this one. Again.

> (BTW, I am having HYPO symtoms still. Fatigue, constant weight

gain,

> brain fog like crasy, lack of gumption overall... NO HYPER

symtoms,

> except I've been a little testy a few times at my family.) RAI

> about 20 years ago... theres no way Im getting enough meds here!

[Guest guest]

If you feel fine don't reduce the dose and let the Dr. stress about

the labs.

-Anne

>

> I was prescribed 120 mg of armour about 9- 10 weeks ago). I

> increased my own dose to 165(approx) mg over a few week period.

Two

> days before this test, I reduced back to 120 just for the test

> results.... and here's what I got... along with the doc requesting

> that I go down to 135 mg armour and retest in 1 month....

>

> TSH 0.030L (0.350-5.500)

> Thyroxine T4 6.0ug/dl (4.5 - 12.0)

> T3 Uptake 30 (24-39)

> Free thyroxine index 1.8 (1.2 - 4.9)

> Triiodothyronine (T3) 146 ng/dl (85 - 205)

>

> The TSH is the only one that screwed me up. What argument should

I

> give him to convince him that TSH isnt a good measure once your on

> meds anyway? (And its only barely out of range isnt it?) I forget

> most details and need some help on this one. Again.

> (BTW, I am having HYPO symtoms still. Fatigue, constant weight

gain,

> brain fog like crasy, lack of gumption overall... NO HYPER

symtoms,

> except I've been a little testy a few times at my family.) RAI

> about 20 years ago... theres no way Im getting enough meds here!

[Guest guest]

I'd love to do that and probably will...but what do you do when your

refill is three weeks ahead of schedule? THAT is where I see a

problem.... how do you handle that part of it?

>

> If you feel fine don't reduce the dose and let the Dr. stress

about

> the labs.

>

> -Anne

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know why your doc is stressing about your dose, b/c although

your tsh is a hair low so is your T4 and Free T3!! Those should

matter more than your TSH!!Is your doctor going to let you stay on

the higher dose? Maybe you need T3 supplementation, b/c it doesn't

look like you are getting enough.

>

> I was prescribed 120 mg of armour about 9- 10 weeks ago). I

> increased my own dose to 165(approx) mg over a few week period.

Two

> days before this test, I reduced back to 120 just for the test

> results.... and here's what I got... along with the doc requesting

> that I go down to 135 mg armour and retest in 1 month....

>

> TSH 0.030L (0.350-5.500)

> Thyroxine T4 6.0ug/dl (4.5 - 12.0)

> T3 Uptake 30 (24-39)

> Free thyroxine index 1.8 (1.2 - 4.9)

> Triiodothyronine (T3) 146 ng/dl (85 - 205)

>

> The TSH is the only one that screwed me up. What argument should

I

> give him to convince him that TSH isnt a good measure once your on

> meds anyway? (And its only barely out of range isnt it?) I forget

> most details and need some help on this one. Again.

> (BTW, I am having HYPO symtoms still. Fatigue, constant weight

gain,

> brain fog like crasy, lack of gumption overall... NO HYPER

symtoms,

> except I've been a little testy a few times at my family.) RAI

> about 20 years ago... theres no way Im getting enough meds here!

[Guest guest]

When do we thyroid patients rise up and say we want new ranges for

people who are being treated with thyroid hormones. The ranges that

are being used now are ranges which were gathered on a few so-

called " normal " people. People on thyroid hormone treatment are not

going to test within the same kind of ranges as people who do not

have the disease and fall within the so-called normal ranges.

People with healthy thyroids receive response from the pituitary

gland in the form of TSH which regulates the thyroid output. When

folks with thyroid disease are on an optimum dose of hormone, of

course the pituitary gland should stop sending a TSH signal to the

thyroid to produce more hormone because there's no need. Correct?

Why is this not logical to doctors?

Tell that doctor of your's that your TSH is suppressed because as

your body is getting closer to receiving the correct dose of thyroid

hormones, your pituitary gland is not having to send signals to your

thyroid anymore to release thyroid hormone. Tell him to start

concentrating on the actual thyroid hormones now -- your Free T4 is

still low. I feel awful testy with my Free T4 low too.

nw

>

>

> >

> > I was prescribed 120 mg of armour about 9- 10 weeks ago). I

> > increased my own dose to 165(approx) mg over a few week period.

> Two

> > days before this test, I reduced back to 120 just for the test

> > results.... and here's what I got... along with the doc

requesting

> > that I go down to 135 mg armour and retest in 1 month....

> >

> > TSH 0.030L (0.350-5.500)

> > Thyroxine T4 6.0ug/dl (4.5 - 12.0)

> > T3 Uptake 30 (24-39)

> > Free thyroxine index 1.8 (1.2 - 4.9)

> > Triiodothyronine (T3) 146 ng/dl (85 - 205)

> >

> > The TSH is the only one that screwed me up. What argument

should

> I

> > give him to convince him that TSH isnt a good measure once your

on

> > meds anyway? (And its only barely out of range isnt it?) I

forget

> > most details and need some help on this one. Again.

> > (BTW, I am having HYPO symtoms still. Fatigue, constant weight

> gain,

> > brain fog like crasy, lack of gumption overall... NO HYPER

> symtoms,

> > except I've been a little testy a few times at my family.) RAI

> > about 20 years ago... theres no way Im getting enough meds here!

[Guest guest]

I buy what I need online without a prescription.

-Anne

> >

> > If you feel fine don't reduce the dose and let the Dr. stress

> about

> > the labs.

> >

> > -Anne

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Anne,

If you do not mind, please contact me directly. I would like to get

the name and address, if possible.

gsyck@...

> > >

> > > If you feel fine don't reduce the dose and let the Dr. stress

> > about

> > > the labs.

> > >

> > > -Anne

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Anne,

If you do not mind, please contact me directly. I would like to get

the name and address, if possible.

gsyck@...

> > >

> > > If you feel fine don't reduce the dose and let the Dr. stress

> > about

> > > the labs.

> > >

> > > -Anne

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Anne,

If you do not mind, please contact me directly. I would like to get

the name and address, if possible.

gsyck@...

> > >

> > > If you feel fine don't reduce the dose and let the Dr. stress

> > about

> > > the labs.

> > >

> > > -Anne

> > >

> > >