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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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> However, my naturopath (no thyroid-literate MDs in my area) believes I

> don't have a lot of thyroid involvement; she thinks it is mostly

> adrenals.

>

do you know what your thyroid hormone levels are?

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

james@... writes:

> However, my naturopath (no thyroid-literate MDs in my area) believes I

> don't have a lot of thyroid involvement; she thinks it is mostly

> adrenals.

>

do you know what your thyroid hormone levels are?

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

james@... writes:

> However, my naturopath (no thyroid-literate MDs in my area) believes I

> don't have a lot of thyroid involvement; she thinks it is mostly

> adrenals.

>

do you know what your thyroid hormone levels are?

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TSH was in range so my health plan would not authorize other levels. I

can't find what the TSH was...sorry.

Is this something I should get done on my own to determine thyroid

involvement?

> In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> james@L... writes:

>

> > However, my naturopath (no thyroid-literate MDs in my area) believes I

> > don't have a lot of thyroid involvement; she thinks it is mostly

> > adrenals.

> >

>

> do you know what your thyroid hormone levels are?

> cindi

>

>

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TSH was in range so my health plan would not authorize other levels. I

can't find what the TSH was...sorry.

Is this something I should get done on my own to determine thyroid

involvement?

> In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> james@L... writes:

>

> > However, my naturopath (no thyroid-literate MDs in my area) believes I

> > don't have a lot of thyroid involvement; she thinks it is mostly

> > adrenals.

> >

>

> do you know what your thyroid hormone levels are?

> cindi

>

>

>

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Many folks like yourself have to go it on your own. And the way to do

that is to use the labs which don't require a prescription, and do the

free T3 and free T4. You can also choose to do the 24 hour adrenal

saliva test. Check the LINKS section. ZRT and Great Smokies. If I am

assuming you are a guy, guess I don't need to tell you to do your

female hormones, right? Ferritin is also a good plan. Janie

>

> TSH was in range so my health plan would not authorize other levels.

I

> can't find what the TSH was...sorry.

>

> Is this something I should get done on my own to determine thyroid

> involvement?

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Many folks like yourself have to go it on your own. And the way to do

that is to use the labs which don't require a prescription, and do the

free T3 and free T4. You can also choose to do the 24 hour adrenal

saliva test. Check the LINKS section. ZRT and Great Smokies. If I am

assuming you are a guy, guess I don't need to tell you to do your

female hormones, right? Ferritin is also a good plan. Janie

>

> TSH was in range so my health plan would not authorize other levels.

I

> can't find what the TSH was...sorry.

>

> Is this something I should get done on my own to determine thyroid

> involvement?

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Many folks like yourself have to go it on your own. And the way to do

that is to use the labs which don't require a prescription, and do the

free T3 and free T4. You can also choose to do the 24 hour adrenal

saliva test. Check the LINKS section. ZRT and Great Smokies. If I am

assuming you are a guy, guess I don't need to tell you to do your

female hormones, right? Ferritin is also a good plan. Janie

>

> TSH was in range so my health plan would not authorize other levels.

I

> can't find what the TSH was...sorry.

>

> Is this something I should get done on my own to determine thyroid

> involvement?

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> With an average temperature of 97.4 beteen morning and mid-afternoon,

> I have extreme exhaution and mental confusion which came about after

> doing a few Cutler rounds of mercury detox, which could have kicked in

> long standing candida issues from doing so many ABX for Lyme over the

> last decade.

Maybe some of your mercury got stirred up and settled in the brain, or

settled in the thyroid? I believe low temp, exhaustion, and mental

confusion can also be symptoms of mercury toxicity.

Are you currently taking any thyroid supplementation?

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> With an average temperature of 97.4 beteen morning and mid-afternoon,

> I have extreme exhaution and mental confusion which came about after

> doing a few Cutler rounds of mercury detox, which could have kicked in

> long standing candida issues from doing so many ABX for Lyme over the

> last decade.

Maybe some of your mercury got stirred up and settled in the brain, or

settled in the thyroid? I believe low temp, exhaustion, and mental

confusion can also be symptoms of mercury toxicity.

Are you currently taking any thyroid supplementation?

Lynn

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> With an average temperature of 97.4 beteen morning and mid-afternoon,

> I have extreme exhaution and mental confusion which came about after

> doing a few Cutler rounds of mercury detox, which could have kicked in

> long standing candida issues from doing so many ABX for Lyme over the

> last decade.

Maybe some of your mercury got stirred up and settled in the brain, or

settled in the thyroid? I believe low temp, exhaustion, and mental

confusion can also be symptoms of mercury toxicity.

Are you currently taking any thyroid supplementation?

Lynn

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I don't doubt that mercury is at the root of the problem, but for the

time being I can't tolerate any chelators in Cutler's or Klinghardt's

protocols.

The only hormonal supplement I am on currently is 50mg DHEA in the AM.

My naturopath wants to start me on Isocort soon, but because I am so

drained, she is attempting to build me up some first.

>

> From: " L. "

> >

> > With an average temperature of 97.4 beteen morning and mid-afternoon,

> > I have extreme exhaution and mental confusion which came about after

> > doing a few Cutler rounds of mercury detox, which could have kicked in

> > long standing candida issues from doing so many ABX for Lyme over the

> > last decade.

>

> Maybe some of your mercury got stirred up and settled in the brain, or

> settled in the thyroid? I believe low temp, exhaustion, and mental

> confusion can also be symptoms of mercury toxicity.

>

> Are you currently taking any thyroid supplementation?

>

> Lynn

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I don't doubt that mercury is at the root of the problem, but for the

time being I can't tolerate any chelators in Cutler's or Klinghardt's

protocols.

The only hormonal supplement I am on currently is 50mg DHEA in the AM.

My naturopath wants to start me on Isocort soon, but because I am so

drained, she is attempting to build me up some first.

>

> From: " L. "

> >

> > With an average temperature of 97.4 beteen morning and mid-afternoon,

> > I have extreme exhaution and mental confusion which came about after

> > doing a few Cutler rounds of mercury detox, which could have kicked in

> > long standing candida issues from doing so many ABX for Lyme over the

> > last decade.

>

> Maybe some of your mercury got stirred up and settled in the brain, or

> settled in the thyroid? I believe low temp, exhaustion, and mental

> confusion can also be symptoms of mercury toxicity.

>

> Are you currently taking any thyroid supplementation?

>

> Lynn

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:50:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

james@... writes:

> Is this something I should get done on my own to determine thyroid

> involvement?

>

i think so. although symptoms are of prime importance, it would give you a

clear indication if you knew for certain that your Free T4 and Free T3 levels

were low.

You can get this done thru www.healthcheckusa.com. order the Thyroid panel

II.

Cindi

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:50:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

james@... writes:

> Is this something I should get done on my own to determine thyroid

> involvement?

>

i think so. although symptoms are of prime importance, it would give you a

clear indication if you knew for certain that your Free T4 and Free T3 levels

were low.

You can get this done thru www.healthcheckusa.com. order the Thyroid panel

II.

Cindi

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Lynn...thanks for the site to sort out whether adrenals or thyroid are

at the root of the problem.

I did the self test and scored an even number on adrenal, mixed, and

thyroid. Interesting....

I guess I'll have to get my own T3 and T4 tests done, but it does seem

that I have dual involvement probably caused by moving mercury around

during chelation. However, I still don't know if adrenals or thyroid

are primary....maybe I don't need to know but just need to treat both.

Are there any problems with just treating both at the same time?

>

> From: " L. "

> Subject: Adrenals or thyroid?

>

>

>

> > I know adrenals and thyroid affect each other but I need help

> > determining if I should push for Armour or simply go on Isocort for

> > adrenal support.

>

> Look at this site http://www.drrind.com/scorecard.asp for a

discussion on

> sorting out adrenal vs. thyroid issues.

>

> Lynn

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> I guess I'll have to get my own T3 and T4 tests done, but it does seem

> that I have dual involvement probably caused by moving mercury around

> during chelation. However, I still don't know if adrenals or thyroid

> are primary....maybe I don't need to know but just need to treat both.

>

> Are there any problems with just treating both at the same time?

I would get some baseline tests first to try and determine what is the

problem. But if you have problems with both your adrenal and thyroid,

neither one will get better unless you do treat them both at the same time.

Lynn

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> I guess I'll have to get my own T3 and T4 tests done, but it does seem

> that I have dual involvement probably caused by moving mercury around

> during chelation. However, I still don't know if adrenals or thyroid

> are primary....maybe I don't need to know but just need to treat both.

>

> Are there any problems with just treating both at the same time?

I would get some baseline tests first to try and determine what is the

problem. But if you have problems with both your adrenal and thyroid,

neither one will get better unless you do treat them both at the same time.

Lynn

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> I guess I'll have to get my own T3 and T4 tests done, but it does seem

> that I have dual involvement probably caused by moving mercury around

> during chelation. However, I still don't know if adrenals or thyroid

> are primary....maybe I don't need to know but just need to treat both.

>

> Are there any problems with just treating both at the same time?

I would get some baseline tests first to try and determine what is the

problem. But if you have problems with both your adrenal and thyroid,

neither one will get better unless you do treat them both at the same time.

Lynn

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