Help me figure out what these results really mean Please?

[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone,

I'm 42, married with two kids and two foster kids. I'm a long time

member but have been lurking a long time. Janie and I believe

helped me immensely in the past.

I have been taking natural thyroid from time cap labs for over a year

now with very good results...before that it was armour, which I

switched from because of the price.

I recalled everyone talking about how important it was to get Free T3

and Free T4 tests done and after I got a bone density scan back in

the negative I think like -1.7 I got scared and since my mom has

osteoperosis, decide to find out if my thyroid dose may be too high,

AND if it may be causing my bones to thin. Well here are the results

of the healthcheckusa thyroid tests.......What do you think I should

do? Stay at the same dose...decrease or??? Thanks for your input...

Reference Units

free T3 4.5 2.3-4.2 PG/ML

free T4 1.7 0.8-1.8 NG/DL

TSH (3rd generation) .35-5.50 MCIU/ML

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cindi And Janie And Laurie for taking a look at these....

It is so helpful to be able to talk to someone else like me about it. Laurie

do you think that the " time cap labs " " Thyroid " has calcitonin in it?

Ok...sorry..I didn't put in my TSH last post.......so I included it below. I

guess because these scores make me look HYPERTHYROID I am worried about my

bone loss (of course it could just be a natural part of ageing too) I feel

great on this dose I'm on....but I'm not on Armour any more...but on TIME CAP

LABS

" Thyroid " I wonder if they has any calcitonin in them too?

Anyway....I take all my thyroid all at once in the morning and didn't take it

before I had my blood drawn for this test...so I'd not had thyroid meds in my

system for nearly 24 hours before I took the test. I try to remember to take

calcium and it is a 50 50 thing. Anyway....here are the results again...and

I'm worried that they may show hyperthyroidism which may lead to bone

loss..what do you think?......(my TSH was 27 when I first found out I was Hypo 8

years

ago) thanks again for you tireless efforts to help all of us out here.

> My score Reference Units

> > free T3 4.5 2.3-4.2 PG/ML

> > free T4 1.7 0.8-1.8 NG/DL

> > TSH (3rd generation) .007 .35-5.50 MCIU/ML

Blessings,

Zippetydoda

Lori in Tennessee

[Guest guest]

Stop fearing the number on the paper. Remember that people were treated

solely off the way they felt before the TSH was invented by the makers of

$ynthriod. The MOST important thing is how do you feel? Does you body

feel hyper? If not then don't worry. Take calcium/magnesium and lift

weights. Those things will all help you. Remember that remaining hypo,

you lose bone mass. Go off how you feel and not the test.....you'll be fine!

Kate G

At 07:43 AM 3/30/2005, you wrote:

>Thanks Cindi And Janie And Laurie for taking a look at these....

>

>It is so helpful to be able to talk to someone else like me about it. Laurie

>do you think that the " time cap labs " " Thyroid " has calcitonin in it?

>

>Ok...sorry..I didn't put in my TSH last post.......so I included it below. I

>guess because these scores make me look HYPERTHYROID I am worried about my

>bone loss (of course it could just be a natural part of ageing too) I feel

>great on this dose I'm on....but I'm not on Armour any more...but on TIME

>CAP LABS

> " Thyroid " I wonder if they has any calcitonin in them too?

>

>Anyway....I take all my thyroid all at once in the morning and didn't take it

>before I had my blood drawn for this test...so I'd not had thyroid meds in my

>system for nearly 24 hours before I took the test. I try to remember to take

>calcium and it is a 50 50 thing. Anyway....here are the results again...and

>I'm worried that they may show hyperthyroidism which may lead to bone

>loss..what do you think?......(my TSH was 27 when I first found out I was

>Hypo 8 years

>ago) thanks again for you tireless efforts to help all of us out here.

> > My score Reference Units

> > > free T3 4.5 2.3-4.2 PG/ML

> > > free T4 1.7 0.8-1.8 NG/DL

> > > TSH (3rd generation) .007 .35-5.50 MCIU/ML

>

>Blessings,

>Zippetydoda

>Lori in Tennessee

[Guest guest]

Stop fearing the number on the paper. Remember that people were treated

solely off the way they felt before the TSH was invented by the makers of

$ynthriod. The MOST important thing is how do you feel? Does you body

feel hyper? If not then don't worry. Take calcium/magnesium and lift

weights. Those things will all help you. Remember that remaining hypo,

you lose bone mass. Go off how you feel and not the test.....you'll be fine!

Kate G

At 07:43 AM 3/30/2005, you wrote:

>Thanks Cindi And Janie And Laurie for taking a look at these....

>

>It is so helpful to be able to talk to someone else like me about it. Laurie

>do you think that the " time cap labs " " Thyroid " has calcitonin in it?

>

>Ok...sorry..I didn't put in my TSH last post.......so I included it below. I

>guess because these scores make me look HYPERTHYROID I am worried about my

>bone loss (of course it could just be a natural part of ageing too) I feel

>great on this dose I'm on....but I'm not on Armour any more...but on TIME

>CAP LABS

> " Thyroid " I wonder if they has any calcitonin in them too?

>

>Anyway....I take all my thyroid all at once in the morning and didn't take it

>before I had my blood drawn for this test...so I'd not had thyroid meds in my

>system for nearly 24 hours before I took the test. I try to remember to take

>calcium and it is a 50 50 thing. Anyway....here are the results again...and

>I'm worried that they may show hyperthyroidism which may lead to bone

>loss..what do you think?......(my TSH was 27 when I first found out I was

>Hypo 8 years

>ago) thanks again for you tireless efforts to help all of us out here.

> > My score Reference Units

> > > free T3 4.5 2.3-4.2 PG/ML

> > > free T4 1.7 0.8-1.8 NG/DL

> > > TSH (3rd generation) .007 .35-5.50 MCIU/ML

>

>Blessings,

>Zippetydoda

>Lori in Tennessee

[Guest guest]

I'm curious to know if you've had a hysterectomy or tubal ligation.

These two things increase the risk of osteoporosis by 500% according

to Dr. Colgan. Lots of studies have shown problems with

osteoporosis with hysterectomy.

Your thyroid numbers do not look bad to me. Dr. Young in his

book " Thyroid, Guardian of Heatlh " has written that Armour causes

bones to become smaller in diameter, but stronger. Hypothyroid

people actually have very large but porous bones. I am very large

boned, but have weak bones and when I was younger broke my arm twice

and always had very bad teeth. So, I am curious if really your bones

have become stronger, but smaller.

The other issue is that I came accross a really good study looking

at fractures and bone density and what they found was that women who

excercised and kept in shape had the lowest fracture rate. They

looked at women who used estrogen and found that this had only a

small effect on fracture rate. So, they concluded that it is not

good bone density that protected women from fracture, but their

overal health and activity level, which protected them from falls

and injuries.

The other thing to look at is your overall nutritional status.

Perhaps you can focus on getting lots of vitamin D, minerals and

sicicone along with doing weight bearing excercises instead of

dropping thyroid. Also, maybe you might look at your other hormone

level, such as testosterone, DHEA, progesterone, and estrogen.

Testosterone and DHEA have a very big impact on bone density and

strength as well as vitamin D and silicone levels. If dropping

thyroid is going to lower your activity level then this may not be

the best solution for protecting you from fractures, which what the

whole bone density measurment is about.

Tish

[Guest guest]

I'm curious to know if you've had a hysterectomy or tubal ligation.

These two things increase the risk of osteoporosis by 500% according

to Dr. Colgan. Lots of studies have shown problems with

osteoporosis with hysterectomy.

Your thyroid numbers do not look bad to me. Dr. Young in his

book " Thyroid, Guardian of Heatlh " has written that Armour causes

bones to become smaller in diameter, but stronger. Hypothyroid

people actually have very large but porous bones. I am very large

boned, but have weak bones and when I was younger broke my arm twice

and always had very bad teeth. So, I am curious if really your bones

have become stronger, but smaller.

The other issue is that I came accross a really good study looking

at fractures and bone density and what they found was that women who

excercised and kept in shape had the lowest fracture rate. They

looked at women who used estrogen and found that this had only a

small effect on fracture rate. So, they concluded that it is not

good bone density that protected women from fracture, but their

overal health and activity level, which protected them from falls

and injuries.

The other thing to look at is your overall nutritional status.

Perhaps you can focus on getting lots of vitamin D, minerals and

sicicone along with doing weight bearing excercises instead of

dropping thyroid. Also, maybe you might look at your other hormone

level, such as testosterone, DHEA, progesterone, and estrogen.

Testosterone and DHEA have a very big impact on bone density and

strength as well as vitamin D and silicone levels. If dropping

thyroid is going to lower your activity level then this may not be

the best solution for protecting you from fractures, which what the

whole bone density measurment is about.

Tish

[Guest guest]

I'm curious to know if you've had a hysterectomy or tubal ligation.

These two things increase the risk of osteoporosis by 500% according

to Dr. Colgan. Lots of studies have shown problems with

osteoporosis with hysterectomy.

Your thyroid numbers do not look bad to me. Dr. Young in his

book " Thyroid, Guardian of Heatlh " has written that Armour causes

bones to become smaller in diameter, but stronger. Hypothyroid

people actually have very large but porous bones. I am very large

boned, but have weak bones and when I was younger broke my arm twice

and always had very bad teeth. So, I am curious if really your bones

have become stronger, but smaller.

The other issue is that I came accross a really good study looking

at fractures and bone density and what they found was that women who

excercised and kept in shape had the lowest fracture rate. They

looked at women who used estrogen and found that this had only a

small effect on fracture rate. So, they concluded that it is not

good bone density that protected women from fracture, but their

overal health and activity level, which protected them from falls

and injuries.

The other thing to look at is your overall nutritional status.

Perhaps you can focus on getting lots of vitamin D, minerals and

sicicone along with doing weight bearing excercises instead of

dropping thyroid. Also, maybe you might look at your other hormone

level, such as testosterone, DHEA, progesterone, and estrogen.

Testosterone and DHEA have a very big impact on bone density and

strength as well as vitamin D and silicone levels. If dropping

thyroid is going to lower your activity level then this may not be

the best solution for protecting you from fractures, which what the

whole bone density measurment is about.

Tish

[Guest guest]

> My score Reference Units

> > free T3 4.5 2.3-4.2 PG/ML

> > free T4 1.7 0.8-1.8 NG/DL

> > TSH (3rd generation) .007 .35-5.50 MCIU/ML

These labs look WONDERFUL to me! I would kill for them! LOL If you feel good,

stay at that dosage. How you FEEL is the best indication and from what I know

your labs are about as good as they get for PROPER medication of hypothyroidism.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

[Guest guest]

> My score Reference Units

> > free T3 4.5 2.3-4.2 PG/ML

> > free T4 1.7 0.8-1.8 NG/DL

> > TSH (3rd generation) .007 .35-5.50 MCIU/ML

These labs look WONDERFUL to me! I would kill for them! LOL If you feel good,

stay at that dosage. How you FEEL is the best indication and from what I know

your labs are about as good as they get for PROPER medication of hypothyroidism.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/