Re: How do you know when you have enough thyroid?

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:04:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lmcgaha@... writes:

> Can you go by temperature - if your basal temp is consistently between 97.8

> and 98.2 in the morning (is that range only for axilliary temps?) and you're

> around 98.6 mid-day, does that mean you're at an optimum level?

>

> Do you go by absence of symptoms? Cause lots of malfunctions other than

> thyroid can cause symptoms.

>

> Do you take enough to feel wired, and then back down a little?

>

>

getting the temp up there is a great indicator. but hard for some folks to

do if untreated/undertreated for a long time. most folks know what their hypo

symptoms are...and can tell as they have waxed and waned in the healing.

and yea...some folks have said that ya take enough to get a bit hyper and

then back down...so if no adrenal problems...that's not a really bad idea.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:04:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lmcgaha@... writes:

> Can you go by temperature - if your basal temp is consistently between 97.8

> and 98.2 in the morning (is that range only for axilliary temps?) and you're

> around 98.6 mid-day, does that mean you're at an optimum level?

>

> Do you go by absence of symptoms? Cause lots of malfunctions other than

> thyroid can cause symptoms.

>

> Do you take enough to feel wired, and then back down a little?

>

>

getting the temp up there is a great indicator. but hard for some folks to

do if untreated/undertreated for a long time. most folks know what their hypo

symptoms are...and can tell as they have waxed and waned in the healing.

and yea...some folks have said that ya take enough to get a bit hyper and

then back down...so if no adrenal problems...that's not a really bad idea.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:04:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lmcgaha@... writes:

> Can you go by temperature - if your basal temp is consistently between 97.8

> and 98.2 in the morning (is that range only for axilliary temps?) and you're

> around 98.6 mid-day, does that mean you're at an optimum level?

>

> Do you go by absence of symptoms? Cause lots of malfunctions other than

> thyroid can cause symptoms.

>

> Do you take enough to feel wired, and then back down a little?

>

>

getting the temp up there is a great indicator. but hard for some folks to

do if untreated/undertreated for a long time. most folks know what their hypo

symptoms are...and can tell as they have waxed and waned in the healing.

and yea...some folks have said that ya take enough to get a bit hyper and

then back down...so if no adrenal problems...that's not a really bad idea.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:11:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> Wonderful question. Here are answers:

>

> 1) If your morning temp is between 97.8 and 98.2, you could be at a

> great dose.

>

> 2) If your mid-afternoon temp is around 98.6, you could be at a

> great dose.

>

> 3) If you have resolved most all of your symptoms, you could be at a

> great dose.

>

> 4) If your free T3 is toward the top, if not over, and you have a

> great temp and no more obvious symptoms, you could be at a great

> dose.

>

> 5) If in doubt, I see no issue with going up 1/4 grain at a time.

> It's a small way to push the limit, and see how you do. I did that

> at 2 grains, which I thought was my optimal dose.......went up 1/4

> grain at a time, and held each raise several weeks. When I got up to

> 3 1/4 grains--viola. No hyper and feeling great. I am now trying out

> 3 1/2 grains----so far, so good. I am sure I am at or near my

> optimal dose anyway.

>

> Also, it's important to make sure you are optimized in other areas---

> female hormones, ferritin, testosterone, etc etc etc.

>

>

hey janie - i think this should be a regular attraction called " how to know

when you're optimized " .

cindi

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In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:11:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> Wonderful question. Here are answers:

>

> 1) If your morning temp is between 97.8 and 98.2, you could be at a

> great dose.

>

> 2) If your mid-afternoon temp is around 98.6, you could be at a

> great dose.

>

> 3) If you have resolved most all of your symptoms, you could be at a

> great dose.

>

> 4) If your free T3 is toward the top, if not over, and you have a

> great temp and no more obvious symptoms, you could be at a great

> dose.

>

> 5) If in doubt, I see no issue with going up 1/4 grain at a time.

> It's a small way to push the limit, and see how you do. I did that

> at 2 grains, which I thought was my optimal dose.......went up 1/4

> grain at a time, and held each raise several weeks. When I got up to

> 3 1/4 grains--viola. No hyper and feeling great. I am now trying out

> 3 1/2 grains----so far, so good. I am sure I am at or near my

> optimal dose anyway.

>

> Also, it's important to make sure you are optimized in other areas---

> female hormones, ferritin, testosterone, etc etc etc.

>

>

hey janie - i think this should be a regular attraction called " how to know

when you're optimized " .

cindi

[Guest guest]

Wonderful question. Here are answers:

1) If your morning temp is between 97.8 and 98.2, you could be at a

great dose.

2) If your mid-afternoon temp is around 98.6, you could be at a

great dose.

3) If you have resolved most all of your symptoms, you could be at a

great dose.

4) If your free T3 is toward the top, if not over, and you have a

great temp and no more obvious symptoms, you could be at a great

dose.

5) If in doubt, I see no issue with going up 1/4 grain at a time.

It's a small way to push the limit, and see how you do. I did that

at 2 grains, which I thought was my optimal dose.......went up 1/4

grain at a time, and held each raise several weeks. When I got up to

3 1/4 grains--viola. No hyper and feeling great. I am now trying out

3 1/2 grains----so far, so good. I am sure I am at or near my

optimal dose anyway.

Also, it's important to make sure you are optimized in other areas---

female hormones, ferritin, testosterone, etc etc etc.

Janie

> How can you tell when you're on enough thyroid? The free t3 and

free T4 lab tests don't necessarily tell you, because if you're

tissue resistant, the labs will look good but you'll still be

hypothyroid at the cellular level.

>

> Can you go by temperature - if your basal temp is consistently

between 97.8 and 98.2 in the morning (is that range only for

axilliary temps?) and you're around 98.6 mid-day, does that mean

you're at an optimum level?

>

> Do you go by absence of symptoms? Cause lots of malfunctions

other than thyroid can cause symptoms.

>

> Do you take enough to feel wired, and then back down a little?

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wonderful question. Here are answers:

1) If your morning temp is between 97.8 and 98.2, you could be at a

great dose.

2) If your mid-afternoon temp is around 98.6, you could be at a

great dose.

3) If you have resolved most all of your symptoms, you could be at a

great dose.

4) If your free T3 is toward the top, if not over, and you have a

great temp and no more obvious symptoms, you could be at a great

dose.

5) If in doubt, I see no issue with going up 1/4 grain at a time.

It's a small way to push the limit, and see how you do. I did that

at 2 grains, which I thought was my optimal dose.......went up 1/4

grain at a time, and held each raise several weeks. When I got up to

3 1/4 grains--viola. No hyper and feeling great. I am now trying out

3 1/2 grains----so far, so good. I am sure I am at or near my

optimal dose anyway.

Also, it's important to make sure you are optimized in other areas---

female hormones, ferritin, testosterone, etc etc etc.

Janie

> How can you tell when you're on enough thyroid? The free t3 and

free T4 lab tests don't necessarily tell you, because if you're

tissue resistant, the labs will look good but you'll still be

hypothyroid at the cellular level.

>

> Can you go by temperature - if your basal temp is consistently

between 97.8 and 98.2 in the morning (is that range only for

axilliary temps?) and you're around 98.6 mid-day, does that mean

you're at an optimum level?

>

> Do you go by absence of symptoms? Cause lots of malfunctions

other than thyroid can cause symptoms.

>

> Do you take enough to feel wired, and then back down a little?

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wonderful question. Here are answers:

1) If your morning temp is between 97.8 and 98.2, you could be at a

great dose.

2) If your mid-afternoon temp is around 98.6, you could be at a

great dose.

3) If you have resolved most all of your symptoms, you could be at a

great dose.

4) If your free T3 is toward the top, if not over, and you have a

great temp and no more obvious symptoms, you could be at a great

dose.

5) If in doubt, I see no issue with going up 1/4 grain at a time.

It's a small way to push the limit, and see how you do. I did that

at 2 grains, which I thought was my optimal dose.......went up 1/4

grain at a time, and held each raise several weeks. When I got up to

3 1/4 grains--viola. No hyper and feeling great. I am now trying out

3 1/2 grains----so far, so good. I am sure I am at or near my

optimal dose anyway.

Also, it's important to make sure you are optimized in other areas---

female hormones, ferritin, testosterone, etc etc etc.

Janie

> How can you tell when you're on enough thyroid? The free t3 and

free T4 lab tests don't necessarily tell you, because if you're

tissue resistant, the labs will look good but you'll still be

hypothyroid at the cellular level.

>

> Can you go by temperature - if your basal temp is consistently

between 97.8 and 98.2 in the morning (is that range only for

axilliary temps?) and you're around 98.6 mid-day, does that mean

you're at an optimum level?

>

> Do you go by absence of symptoms? Cause lots of malfunctions

other than thyroid can cause symptoms.

>

> Do you take enough to feel wired, and then back down a little?

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

>

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Subject: Re: How do you know when you have enough

thyroid?

Janie and Cindi,

Thanks for your answers on this question. I asked this because my temps

seem to be good, even though I've been back up to 2 gr. for only two weeks

now. Maybe that has something to do with the high doses of selenium and

kelp, among many other supplements, that my nutritional consultant started

me on in January. But I believe I will continue slowly increasing a 1/4 gr.

at a time until I start to feel some hyper symptoms.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: How do you know when you have enough

thyroid?

Janie and Cindi,

Thanks for your answers on this question. I asked this because my temps

seem to be good, even though I've been back up to 2 gr. for only two weeks

now. Maybe that has something to do with the high doses of selenium and

kelp, among many other supplements, that my nutritional consultant started

me on in January. But I believe I will continue slowly increasing a 1/4 gr.

at a time until I start to feel some hyper symptoms.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: How do you know when you have enough

thyroid?

Janie and Cindi,

Thanks for your answers on this question. I asked this because my temps

seem to be good, even though I've been back up to 2 gr. for only two weeks

now. Maybe that has something to do with the high doses of selenium and

kelp, among many other supplements, that my nutritional consultant started

me on in January. But I believe I will continue slowly increasing a 1/4 gr.

at a time until I start to feel some hyper symptoms.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

>I would love to know the same things, as I think I get there, and

>then some same old symptoms crop up weeks down the road.

That happened to me before I figured out to press the limit. I pressed

the limit when I remembered that the minimal dose of Armour, before T4-

only meds and before the TSH, was 3-5 grains. I thought hmmmm. So I

inched my way up...and no more of those old symptoms cropping up.

But.......getting more into peri-meno ripped me backwards again. Last

December was the absolute pits. Today, 3 months later, I am almost

back to where I was.....but still need a little more improvement in my

progesterone to get there. Peri-meno sucks.

Janie

[Guest guest]

>I would love to know the same things, as I think I get there, and

>then some same old symptoms crop up weeks down the road.

That happened to me before I figured out to press the limit. I pressed

the limit when I remembered that the minimal dose of Armour, before T4-

only meds and before the TSH, was 3-5 grains. I thought hmmmm. So I

inched my way up...and no more of those old symptoms cropping up.

But.......getting more into peri-meno ripped me backwards again. Last

December was the absolute pits. Today, 3 months later, I am almost

back to where I was.....but still need a little more improvement in my

progesterone to get there. Peri-meno sucks.

Janie

[Guest guest]

What are the signs of peri-meno? I'm 44 (45 in august) and don't

think I've started that yet, what should I watch for?

kk

>

> >I would love to know the same things, as I think I get there, and

> >then some same old symptoms crop up weeks down the road.

>

> That happened to me before I figured out to press the limit. I

pressed

> the limit when I remembered that the minimal dose of Armour, before

T4-

> only meds and before the TSH, was 3-5 grains. I thought hmmmm. So I

> inched my way up...and no more of those old symptoms cropping up.

>

> But.......getting more into peri-meno ripped me backwards again.

Last

> December was the absolute pits. Today, 3 months later, I am almost

> back to where I was.....but still need a little more improvement in

my

> progesterone to get there. Peri-meno sucks.

>

> Janie