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In a message dated 3/15/2005 8:58:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> I did a little reading and found the T4 has a half

> life of 6-7 days. So, exactly what that means to this

> " wait 4-6 weeks until we test again " thing, can

> someone explain? Shouldn't it build up faster than 4-6

> weeks?

>

i think the waiting is in reference to the " time lag " of the TSH to respond

to the T4 levels. which makes me even madder than i was at them using the TSH

to dose.

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 8:58:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> I did a little reading and found the T4 has a half

> life of 6-7 days. So, exactly what that means to this

> " wait 4-6 weeks until we test again " thing, can

> someone explain? Shouldn't it build up faster than 4-6

> weeks?

>

i think the waiting is in reference to the " time lag " of the TSH to respond

to the T4 levels. which makes me even madder than i was at them using the TSH

to dose.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 10:17:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

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> On the other hand, meds like T4 can take several weeks to build in

> the system to it's full effective amount, perhaps because you are

> using it as you go along...so it takes awhile for the excess to

> build....

but if we were low to begin with...how do we ever get ahead? until we get

our dose upped.

and is that why we crash when first beginning Armour...cause we don't have

any stored...and we use up what we have...and so it's time to up the dose?

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 10:17:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> On the other hand, meds like T4 can take several weeks to build in

> the system to it's full effective amount, perhaps because you are

> using it as you go along...so it takes awhile for the excess to

> build....

but if we were low to begin with...how do we ever get ahead? until we get

our dose upped.

and is that why we crash when first beginning Armour...cause we don't have

any stored...and we use up what we have...and so it's time to up the dose?

cindi

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 10:47:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> LOL...yeah..it should have said 1/4 grain, which has a

> very short life, right? I have been able to get to the

> gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

> work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

> dinner...is that all T3

hard to say, kerry. but i have trouble believing the T3 in 1/4 grain would

make that kind of difference. more likely is that you're getting enough T4 now

to have enough overall...that your body is utilizing it better now that it's

getting used to having necessary hormone...you're over 3 grains so you're

getting that metabolic rate changed...

yep, any number of reasons...but guess that's how it starts to feel when you

reach that optimal dose...ya start feeling better and for longer...and are

able to do more.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 10:47:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> LOL...yeah..it should have said 1/4 grain, which has a

> very short life, right? I have been able to get to the

> gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

> work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

> dinner...is that all T3

hard to say, kerry. but i have trouble believing the T3 in 1/4 grain would

make that kind of difference. more likely is that you're getting enough T4 now

to have enough overall...that your body is utilizing it better now that it's

getting used to having necessary hormone...you're over 3 grains so you're

getting that metabolic rate changed...

yep, any number of reasons...but guess that's how it starts to feel when you

reach that optimal dose...ya start feeling better and for longer...and are

able to do more.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 10:47:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> LOL...yeah..it should have said 1/4 grain, which has a

> very short life, right? I have been able to get to the

> gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

> work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

> dinner...is that all T3

hard to say, kerry. but i have trouble believing the T3 in 1/4 grain would

make that kind of difference. more likely is that you're getting enough T4 now

to have enough overall...that your body is utilizing it better now that it's

getting used to having necessary hormone...you're over 3 grains so you're

getting that metabolic rate changed...

yep, any number of reasons...but guess that's how it starts to feel when you

reach that optimal dose...ya start feeling better and for longer...and are

able to do more.

cindi

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Hi Kerry. You are actually talking about two totally different

processes.

Half life refers to the amount of time to takes for a drug to be

metabolized or eliminated by your normal biological processes...i.e.

if you stop taking a med, the effective amount you will have left in

your system " 7 days later " . Some half lifes are shorter, some longer.

On the other hand, meds like T4 can take several weeks to build in

the system to it's full effective amount, perhaps because you are

using it as you go along...so it takes awhile for the excess to

build....it's like eating 2000 calories a day for many days--your

body uses 1500 of those calories each day, leaving an excess of 500

calories.....and that excess builds and builds over time, until you

eventually find yourself 10 lbs overweight!! Simplified explanation,

but it works. LOL.

Janie

> I did a little reading and found the T4 has a half

> life of 6-7 days. So, exactly what that means to this

> " wait 4-6 weeks until we test again " thing, can

> someone explain? Shouldn't it build up faster than 4-6

> weeks?

>

> Kerry

>

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Hi Kerry. You are actually talking about two totally different

processes.

Half life refers to the amount of time to takes for a drug to be

metabolized or eliminated by your normal biological processes...i.e.

if you stop taking a med, the effective amount you will have left in

your system " 7 days later " . Some half lifes are shorter, some longer.

On the other hand, meds like T4 can take several weeks to build in

the system to it's full effective amount, perhaps because you are

using it as you go along...so it takes awhile for the excess to

build....it's like eating 2000 calories a day for many days--your

body uses 1500 of those calories each day, leaving an excess of 500

calories.....and that excess builds and builds over time, until you

eventually find yourself 10 lbs overweight!! Simplified explanation,

but it works. LOL.

Janie

> I did a little reading and found the T4 has a half

> life of 6-7 days. So, exactly what that means to this

> " wait 4-6 weeks until we test again " thing, can

> someone explain? Shouldn't it build up faster than 4-6

> weeks?

>

> Kerry

>

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Hi Kerry. You are actually talking about two totally different

processes.

Half life refers to the amount of time to takes for a drug to be

metabolized or eliminated by your normal biological processes...i.e.

if you stop taking a med, the effective amount you will have left in

your system " 7 days later " . Some half lifes are shorter, some longer.

On the other hand, meds like T4 can take several weeks to build in

the system to it's full effective amount, perhaps because you are

using it as you go along...so it takes awhile for the excess to

build....it's like eating 2000 calories a day for many days--your

body uses 1500 of those calories each day, leaving an excess of 500

calories.....and that excess builds and builds over time, until you

eventually find yourself 10 lbs overweight!! Simplified explanation,

but it works. LOL.

Janie

> I did a little reading and found the T4 has a half

> life of 6-7 days. So, exactly what that means to this

> " wait 4-6 weeks until we test again " thing, can

> someone explain? Shouldn't it build up faster than 4-6

> weeks?

>

> Kerry

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and tonight I am sitting on my very large behind

watching TV..lol

Kerry

--- nc2406@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/15/2005 10:47:11 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> klb58@... writes:

>

> > LOL...yeah..it should have said 1/4 grain, which

> has a

> > very short life, right? I have been able to get to

> the

> > gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

> > work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

> > dinner...is that all T3

>

> hard to say, kerry. but i have trouble believing

> the T3 in 1/4 grain would

> make that kind of difference. more likely is that

> you're getting enough T4 now

> to have enough overall...that your body is utilizing

> it better now that it's

> getting used to having necessary hormone...you're

> over 3 grains so you're

> getting that metabolic rate changed...

> yep, any number of reasons...but guess that's how it

> starts to feel when you

> reach that optimal dose...ya start feeling better

> and for longer...and are

> able to do more.

> cindi

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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and tonight I am sitting on my very large behind

watching TV..lol

Kerry

--- nc2406@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/15/2005 10:47:11 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> klb58@... writes:

>

> > LOL...yeah..it should have said 1/4 grain, which

> has a

> > very short life, right? I have been able to get to

> the

> > gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

> > work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

> > dinner...is that all T3

>

> hard to say, kerry. but i have trouble believing

> the T3 in 1/4 grain would

> make that kind of difference. more likely is that

> you're getting enough T4 now

> to have enough overall...that your body is utilizing

> it better now that it's

> getting used to having necessary hormone...you're

> over 3 grains so you're

> getting that metabolic rate changed...

> yep, any number of reasons...but guess that's how it

> starts to feel when you

> reach that optimal dose...ya start feeling better

> and for longer...and are

> able to do more.

> cindi

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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>>I have been able to get to the

gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

dinner...is that all T3?<<

Yes & no, LOL! Don't forget there are other hormones in Armour. T2 does have

some metabolic activity! What you are feeling is the balance of hormones rather

than any one of them. This balance is delicate to keep at first, but you will

get there!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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>>I have been able to get to the

gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

dinner...is that all T3?<<

Yes & no, LOL! Don't forget there are other hormones in Armour. T2 does have

some metabolic activity! What you are feeling is the balance of hormones rather

than any one of them. This balance is delicate to keep at first, but you will

get there!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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>>I have been able to get to the

gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

dinner...is that all T3?<<

Yes & no, LOL! Don't forget there are other hormones in Armour. T2 does have

some metabolic activity! What you are feeling is the balance of hormones rather

than any one of them. This balance is delicate to keep at first, but you will

get there!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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Not sure if this is a real scientific source, but body builders use T2.

Supposedly they get the muscle building power and weight loss effects without

the hyper of too much thyroid, like if they took T3 for the same effect. T1 I

haven't a clue!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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Kerry, that was supposed to be 1/4 grain right? I'm thinking that the feeling

better sooner actually comes from the T3 which is in the here and now.

SandyE~Houston

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ok, so does that mean that is really takes 4-6 weeks

to build up? I increased my dose by 14 grain last

Monday and by Thursday my aches were markedly

decreased.

Kerry

(who is still feeling like a thyroid virgin)

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Kerry, I'm honestly not sure. I know that when I first started taking Armour, I

felt it instantly. I read that not all people do feel that great on the first

dose, and the only thing I can think of is that it had to be the T3. I remember

that one week when I let Dr Doofus (last Endo) talk me into taking Levoxyl, and

within a week, I was not good at all. The minute I went back to the Armour, I

felt better and my son wasn't keeping his distance from me? rofl. Teenagers!

Pfffttt! :-)

Now, maybe it was different somehow because I'd been hyperT/Graves which was a

speeded up metabolism, but the being made to live hypo was the true pits. I

would rather be a little hyper any day that hypo after that year + stretch.

Re: Re: t4 storage-buildup in the blood

LOL...yeah..it should have said 1/4 grain, which has a

very short life, right? I have been able to get to the

gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

dinner...is that all T3?

Kerry

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Kerry, I'm honestly not sure. I know that when I first started taking Armour, I

felt it instantly. I read that not all people do feel that great on the first

dose, and the only thing I can think of is that it had to be the T3. I remember

that one week when I let Dr Doofus (last Endo) talk me into taking Levoxyl, and

within a week, I was not good at all. The minute I went back to the Armour, I

felt better and my son wasn't keeping his distance from me? rofl. Teenagers!

Pfffttt! :-)

Now, maybe it was different somehow because I'd been hyperT/Graves which was a

speeded up metabolism, but the being made to live hypo was the true pits. I

would rather be a little hyper any day that hypo after that year + stretch.

Re: Re: t4 storage-buildup in the blood

LOL...yeah..it should have said 1/4 grain, which has a

very short life, right? I have been able to get to the

gym 2 days in a row and still have energy to go to

work and spend time in my yard, stay awake after

dinner...is that all T3?

Kerry

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Why is it so hard for doctors to believe that if something is there it is

there for a reason? Then you have the pharmaceutical companies, who for

the mighty dollar isolate what they consider to be the 'active' ingredient

in a substance they can't patent, so they can patent the isolated

ingredient. Then they have to report all the side effects that the

isolated ingredient causes because it doesn't have all of those other

unimportant ingredients to support it! The concept of needing the whole

plant for wholistic healing is just too far beyond them. Sheila

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Thanks . I knew my dr sure wasn't up for answering anything about

either of those two when I mentioned them. He had promised me 'ANYTHING' I

wanted for thyroid replacement, then decided later that Armour couldn't be

'one of those thyroid meds' and that I didn't need anything.

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Why is it so hard for doctors to believe that if something is there it is

there for a reason? Then you have the pharmaceutical companies, who for

the mighty dollar isolate what they consider to be the 'active' ingredient

in a substance they can't patent, so they can patent the isolated

ingredient. Then they have to report all the side effects that the

isolated ingredient causes because it doesn't have all of those other

unimportant ingredients to support it! The concept of needing the whole

plant for wholistic healing is just too far beyond them. Sheila

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Thanks . I knew my dr sure wasn't up for answering anything about

either of those two when I mentioned them. He had promised me 'ANYTHING' I

wanted for thyroid replacement, then decided later that Armour couldn't be

'one of those thyroid meds' and that I didn't need anything.

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

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info@...

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Why is it so hard for doctors to believe that if something is there it is

there for a reason? Then you have the pharmaceutical companies, who for

the mighty dollar isolate what they consider to be the 'active' ingredient

in a substance they can't patent, so they can patent the isolated

ingredient. Then they have to report all the side effects that the

isolated ingredient causes because it doesn't have all of those other

unimportant ingredients to support it! The concept of needing the whole

plant for wholistic healing is just too far beyond them. Sheila

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Thanks . I knew my dr sure wasn't up for answering anything about

either of those two when I mentioned them. He had promised me 'ANYTHING' I

wanted for thyroid replacement, then decided later that Armour couldn't be

'one of those thyroid meds' and that I didn't need anything.

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

Phone:

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Does anybody have any info on exactly what T1 and T2 actually do? I remember

when I first told my first Endo that Armour had all the goodies in it, he

smirked and said they have no idea what T1 and T2 add to the human body? I've

never seen anything on it, but I know Armour worked so much better than the T4

that I took for that week. :-)

SandyE~Houston

Re: Re: t4 storage-buildup in the blood

Yes & no, LOL! Don't forget there are other hormones in Armour. T2 does have

some metabolic activity! What you are feeling is the balance of hormones rather

than any one of them. This balance is delicate to keep at first, but you will

get there!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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Does anybody have any info on exactly what T1 and T2 actually do? I remember

when I first told my first Endo that Armour had all the goodies in it, he

smirked and said they have no idea what T1 and T2 add to the human body? I've

never seen anything on it, but I know Armour worked so much better than the T4

that I took for that week. :-)

SandyE~Houston

Re: Re: t4 storage-buildup in the blood

Yes & no, LOL! Don't forget there are other hormones in Armour. T2 does have

some metabolic activity! What you are feeling is the balance of hormones rather

than any one of them. This balance is delicate to keep at first, but you will

get there!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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Does anybody have any info on exactly what T1 and T2 actually do? I remember

when I first told my first Endo that Armour had all the goodies in it, he

smirked and said they have no idea what T1 and T2 add to the human body? I've

never seen anything on it, but I know Armour worked so much better than the T4

that I took for that week. :-)

SandyE~Houston

Re: Re: t4 storage-buildup in the blood

Yes & no, LOL! Don't forget there are other hormones in Armour. T2 does have

some metabolic activity! What you are feeling is the balance of hormones rather

than any one of them. This balance is delicate to keep at first, but you will

get there!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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