For TISH Re: Does ISOCORT increase DHEA levels?

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It sure looks like adrenal fatigue. The amount of circulating

thyroid hormone affects the size an output of the adrenals. The

adrenals need sufficient thyroid hormone stimulation to work

properly. In long standing hypothyroidism, the adrenals become weak

and loose storage capacity for hormone (see Werner and Ingbar's " The

Thyroid " ). So, hypothyroidism may be causing his low adrenal

function. If he can just get a decent thyroid dose that gets his

metabolic rate up to normal, he should be able to discontinue the

IsoCort as the adrenals will recover normal function. Many people

can get off it in 4 months.

http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl11.htm

Jeffries writes in his book " Safe Uses of Cortisol " that they have

had some success slowing the growth of cancer with adrenal support.

If cortisol is too low or too high, the immune system cannot work

properly. You need a good immune system to fighht cancer. Natural

killer cells are the immune cells that attack tumors and these cells

are reduced in hypothyroidism and poor adrenal function. In

hypothyroidism, everything slows down - the production of red blood

cells and all the immune cells are reduced. Cancer cells are your

own cells and they get out of control because the body's mechanisms

for keeping them in check are not working. The cancer industry wants

people to think of cancer as foreign to our bodies, an invader, but

this has been proven not to be the case. One man did a fascinating

study where he looked for cancer in people who had died in

accidents. He found that just about everybody had some cancer cells

in their bodies, but the difference between the ones that had cancer

out of control and the ones that didn't was the immune system

keeping them in check and which had the ability to recognize cells

that were not functioning properly and stopping their growth. This

means that cancers that have not gone too far can be cured by

helping the body to function normally and making it as healthy as

possible. One way to do this is to focus on high nutrition. But, the

body cannot take up nutrients well if it is hypothryoid.

Your DHEA is really low, so I would not think that IsoCort will make

it high. I don't think it has that much DHEA in it. You seem to need

DHEA. DHEA only raises testosterone when it is too high. When DHEA

levels exceed what the body needs, excess is converted to

testosterone. So, it's my opinion that you will not get anywhere

near excess DHEA with IsoCort. Proper DHEA levels also increase

immune function and I have seen one study done with Uterine fibroids

that found that when DHEA levels were increased, natural killer cell

levels increased. It is a very simple thing to make sure that

IsoCort doesn't raise his DHEA too high. You just need to have a

DHEA test two months after starting the IsoCort. It will show up if

there is a problem. Life Extension Foundation Recommends that people

taking DHEA have a test after two munths of use to check levels. It

takes about two months for blood levels to stabilize. Most people as

they age have DHEA levels that decline, anyway.

http://biomed.gerontologyjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/52/1/M1

Your cortisol is low in the morning and this is pretty typical of

adrenal fatigue. The healthy adrenals need to make double the

production of cortisol of the rest of the day in the morning one

hour after waking. So, when the adrenals are weak, this is typically

the time of day, when they can't quite muster what is needed.

Usually, in the rest of the day, they can manage to do ok. There is

sometimes an afternoon low, but it is usually not as low as the

morning.

I had very bad adrenal fatigue and could not tolerate thyroid. I had

to make ony 1/8th grain raises and had to wait a month sometimes

before another. I just could not do more. Once I got my dose to 3

grains, my adrenal situation just really improved. My whole life

changed and I became alive again. I always had high estrogen in the

years before my diagnosis and nothing I did brought it down. But,

after thyroid, it fell like a rock.

Some of the ways in which you can help yourself tolerate thyroid

better is by taking high doses of CoQ10 (400 mg), taking selinium,

chromium, getting plenty of high quality protein, 100 mg of vitamin

B5, taking immunocal HMS 90 or whey protein if he can tolerate it,

eating lots of organic, Vitamin C (4 grams a day) and high quality

vegetables (these have important sugars for energy). CoQ10 and

selinium have been found to put cancers in remission in several

studies. Doses that were used of Cq10 were 400 mg. Selinium is very

important for thyroid function. Vitamin B5 has no known toxicity

levels. It is the base material from which cortisone is made.

Cromium, Selinium and CoQ10 improve energy, thyroid and immune

function. Studies done on large populations have found that those

with the highest selinium levels have lower rates of cancer. Whey

protien or Immunocal HMS 90 boost glutathionine levels. It has been

found that people with cancer, cateracts and other oxidative cell

damaging diseses have very low levels of glutathionine.

Glutathionine declines with age. Glutothionine is what protects

cells from oxidative damage. The adrenals have the highest

concentration of vitamin C of any gland in the body. They cannot

make their hormones if vitamin C is too low. In adrenal fatigue,

alternative doctors recommend a minimum of 4 grams a day. In adrenal

fatigue, the body does not have enough cortisol to keep glucose at

at proper levels at times. When this happens, the body will resort

to using protien in muscles for energy. So, low cortisol states are

catabolic. They break down the body for energy. People with adrenal

fatigue need extra protein to replace what is lost. Thyroid function

depends on having lots of good quality protien for the enzyme

systems that it depends on, also. (Do not eat soy and avoid raw

criciferous vegetables (ccok them), too many beans and nuts. These

slow thyroid function.) Almonds have been found to be helpful for

cancer, even though they do slow thyroid function some.)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15514384

http://www.intensivenutrition.com/coq10.PDF

There are a few herbs that help the adrenals. These include:

ashwaghanda, astragalus, ginsing http://www.soil-

health.org.nz/pastissues/septoct01/katecan.pdf

http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/9_16.htm

http://www.star-telegram.com/quickfacts/health-urology.htm

(Selinium, which studies suggest may have a protective effect

against prostate cancer)

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/vitaminc.htm

Tish

>

> Hi Tish. Thank you so much for your response. YOu made some

> excellent points.

> He has done a recent saliva test and here are the results:

> DHEAS 1.9 (2-11) ng/ml

> Cortisol AM 3 (3-10)

> Cortisol noon 2.1 (1.5-6.5)

> Cortosol evening 1.2 (1-3.5)

> Night 0.9 (0.3-2)

> He also tried licorice and and cause his blood pressure to go up.

> He started to take Isocort, he is now on 2 pellets. Our hope is

that

> since his dhea is so low, there is room for increase without any

> damaging effect on testosterone.

>

> ALex