Re: Questions about recovering from HypoT from a newbie

[Guest guest]

Hi , welcome aboard! YES I had some horrid joint pain that I thought was

with me for life and about 80% of it is GONE now! I have been steadily on Armour

for about 6 years now and it took a long time for most the pain to go away but

now I just get a stiff back once in a while. No more popping knees or painful

hips at all. I am 50 now. As for the weight loss... alot of hypos never seem to

regain the best fat burning mechanisms even on good replacement meds. I am still

unable to lose the weight I need to, but some others have lost as soon as they

got on their correct dosage of Armour so don;t give up hope! I am still playing

with adding this & that to help conversion and I am also battling a poisoning

with pesticides so I do have special considerations others might not have to

deal with.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and

cackling, telling me, " You're next. " They stopped after I started doing the

same thing to them at funerals

[Guest guest]

Hi , welcome aboard! YES I had some horrid joint pain that I thought was

with me for life and about 80% of it is GONE now! I have been steadily on Armour

for about 6 years now and it took a long time for most the pain to go away but

now I just get a stiff back once in a while. No more popping knees or painful

hips at all. I am 50 now. As for the weight loss... alot of hypos never seem to

regain the best fat burning mechanisms even on good replacement meds. I am still

unable to lose the weight I need to, but some others have lost as soon as they

got on their correct dosage of Armour so don;t give up hope! I am still playing

with adding this & that to help conversion and I am also battling a poisoning

with pesticides so I do have special considerations others might not have to

deal with.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and

cackling, telling me, " You're next. " They stopped after I started doing the

same thing to them at funerals

[Guest guest]

Hi , welcome aboard! YES I had some horrid joint pain that I thought was

with me for life and about 80% of it is GONE now! I have been steadily on Armour

for about 6 years now and it took a long time for most the pain to go away but

now I just get a stiff back once in a while. No more popping knees or painful

hips at all. I am 50 now. As for the weight loss... alot of hypos never seem to

regain the best fat burning mechanisms even on good replacement meds. I am still

unable to lose the weight I need to, but some others have lost as soon as they

got on their correct dosage of Armour so don;t give up hope! I am still playing

with adding this & that to help conversion and I am also battling a poisoning

with pesticides so I do have special considerations others might not have to

deal with.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and

cackling, telling me, " You're next. " They stopped after I started doing the

same thing to them at funerals

[Guest guest]

> Another question, I've been dieting for 2 years and can't lose

weight> even on low calories. Will my calorie burning machine ever

return to> normal, or am I doomed to having the metabolism of a

three-toed sloth> for eternity?

Yes, your metabolism will increase when you get to the right dose of

hormones - however, it's important you also increase you calories

and stop dieting for a while. You're only further stressing your

thyroid and your adrenals by dieting right now.

The interplay of hormones doesn't just extend to thyroid / sex

hormones - it also includes those that govern hunger, especially

those that originate in the hypothalamus. There's also a very real

conncetion between leptin - the hormone that determins if you're

hungry or not - and thyroid. Dieting lowers FT3, something thats

already low in you to begin with. If you increase your cals slowly

(to the tune of 100-150 a day for a week, then another 100 more the

next week, until you've gained about 4 lbs you'll do more good for

yourself than you could imagine). FT3 recovers rapidly once cals

are raised - carb in particular.

Eating every few hours (5-6 x a day) will also help your thyroid and

adrenals - less stress on them. This will help your body use the

Armour better.

And when you do go back to trying to lose think about zigzagging

your calories - every 4th day have a day of calories at maintenance,

it will keep you thyroid happy and it will make it possible for you

to keep losing fat.

[Guest guest]

> Another question, I've been dieting for 2 years and can't lose

weight> even on low calories. Will my calorie burning machine ever

return to> normal, or am I doomed to having the metabolism of a

three-toed sloth> for eternity?

Yes, your metabolism will increase when you get to the right dose of

hormones - however, it's important you also increase you calories

and stop dieting for a while. You're only further stressing your

thyroid and your adrenals by dieting right now.

The interplay of hormones doesn't just extend to thyroid / sex

hormones - it also includes those that govern hunger, especially

those that originate in the hypothalamus. There's also a very real

conncetion between leptin - the hormone that determins if you're

hungry or not - and thyroid. Dieting lowers FT3, something thats

already low in you to begin with. If you increase your cals slowly

(to the tune of 100-150 a day for a week, then another 100 more the

next week, until you've gained about 4 lbs you'll do more good for

yourself than you could imagine). FT3 recovers rapidly once cals

are raised - carb in particular.

Eating every few hours (5-6 x a day) will also help your thyroid and

adrenals - less stress on them. This will help your body use the

Armour better.

And when you do go back to trying to lose think about zigzagging

your calories - every 4th day have a day of calories at maintenance,

it will keep you thyroid happy and it will make it possible for you

to keep losing fat.

[Guest guest]

Has anyone noticed muscle pain, stiffness, cracking ,

joint pain? I started having this pretty bad starting

a month ago. I have been on 3 1/4 grain for 4 weeks

now, just added adrenal support today. I would like to

increase my dose starting Monday, any thoughts?

--- sandy starz@...> wrote:

> Yes, those pains can go away if you are on the

> proper dose of armour or other natural thyroid. I

> don't function well with a TSH of over 1., so to

> have 2.anything would make me be unbearable to live

> around or with. I remember once when my dose of

> armour was too low, my right ankle area hurt for two

> days. I was curious to see if it would go away if I

> upped the dose, and after I added another 1/2 grain

> of armour, no more pain. I am also a graves

> patient, just no rai. My antibodies are doing a

> wonderful job of destroying whatever thyroid

> function i had after atd's for 2 yrs and most of

> that overmedicated.

>

> I get really bad pains just about everywhere when

> i'm underdosed. I also get carpal tunnel in my left

> hand when my dosage isn't right. I don't know why

> it only affects the left hand, but so far, the right

> hand is good whether I'm on enough or not. It

> wasn't until i upped to 3 1/2 grains of armour that

> I started losing weight. I've lost 29 or 30 lbs now

> since Oct 2004. I don't gain weight, but notice a

> slight gain around time for my period, once that's

> over, I'm back to normal weight. It comes off on an

> average of 1-2 lbs per week and I love it! I've not

> been able to lose weight in many years!

>

> Just in case you didn't hear, most people who go

> hyperT (Graves or Hashi's) were most likely to have

> been hypo before anything was diagnosed. I believe

> I was one of those. I feel better than I have in so

> long, it's hard to look back and see when I've felt

> this good and free from all the aches and pains that

> are associated with this disease that the dr's

> ignore. I am now on 4 1/2 grains of Naturethroid

> and have just started losing small amts of weight

> again.

>

> SandyE~Houston

>

> Questions about

> recovering from HypoT from a newbie

>

>

>

> Hello all! I'm a new member. I just started on

> Armour this week

> after being on Levoxyl for almost 20 years (RAI

> for graves). I'm

> pretty sure I have been slightly HypoT the entire

> time on Levoxyl. I

> have " normal " TSH (2.04) but I did my own FT3/FT4

> tests and came back

> under the range on FT3, FT4 was towards the top.

> So I'm thinking that

> I don't convert T4 properly.

>

> Anyway, my question is this. I know that

> arthritis and joint problems

> can be a symptom of HypoT. I'm only 46 years old

> and I have arthritis

> (I assume it is) in my feet, toes, hands, knees

> and hips. I'm

> wondering if anyone else who was hypoT and then

> got treated properly

> lost that nasty joint pain? I guess I'm just

> hoping that it hasn't

> gone on too long and perhaps this can be reversed

> somehow. Or at

> least slowed down!

>

> Another question, I've been dieting for 2 years

> and can't lose weight

> even on low calories. Will my calorie burning

> machine ever return to

> normal, or am I doomed to having the metabolism of

> a three-toed sloth

> for eternity?

>

> Thanks for any insight you can provide!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Has anyone noticed muscle pain, stiffness, cracking ,

joint pain? I started having this pretty bad starting

a month ago. I have been on 3 1/4 grain for 4 weeks

now, just added adrenal support today. I would like to

increase my dose starting Monday, any thoughts?

--- sandy starz@...> wrote:

> Yes, those pains can go away if you are on the

> proper dose of armour or other natural thyroid. I

> don't function well with a TSH of over 1., so to

> have 2.anything would make me be unbearable to live

> around or with. I remember once when my dose of

> armour was too low, my right ankle area hurt for two

> days. I was curious to see if it would go away if I

> upped the dose, and after I added another 1/2 grain

> of armour, no more pain. I am also a graves

> patient, just no rai. My antibodies are doing a

> wonderful job of destroying whatever thyroid

> function i had after atd's for 2 yrs and most of

> that overmedicated.

>

> I get really bad pains just about everywhere when

> i'm underdosed. I also get carpal tunnel in my left

> hand when my dosage isn't right. I don't know why

> it only affects the left hand, but so far, the right

> hand is good whether I'm on enough or not. It

> wasn't until i upped to 3 1/2 grains of armour that

> I started losing weight. I've lost 29 or 30 lbs now

> since Oct 2004. I don't gain weight, but notice a

> slight gain around time for my period, once that's

> over, I'm back to normal weight. It comes off on an

> average of 1-2 lbs per week and I love it! I've not

> been able to lose weight in many years!

>

> Just in case you didn't hear, most people who go

> hyperT (Graves or Hashi's) were most likely to have

> been hypo before anything was diagnosed. I believe

> I was one of those. I feel better than I have in so

> long, it's hard to look back and see when I've felt

> this good and free from all the aches and pains that

> are associated with this disease that the dr's

> ignore. I am now on 4 1/2 grains of Naturethroid

> and have just started losing small amts of weight

> again.

>

> SandyE~Houston

>

> Questions about

> recovering from HypoT from a newbie

>

>

>

> Hello all! I'm a new member. I just started on

> Armour this week

> after being on Levoxyl for almost 20 years (RAI

> for graves). I'm

> pretty sure I have been slightly HypoT the entire

> time on Levoxyl. I

> have " normal " TSH (2.04) but I did my own FT3/FT4

> tests and came back

> under the range on FT3, FT4 was towards the top.

> So I'm thinking that

> I don't convert T4 properly.

>

> Anyway, my question is this. I know that

> arthritis and joint problems

> can be a symptom of HypoT. I'm only 46 years old

> and I have arthritis

> (I assume it is) in my feet, toes, hands, knees

> and hips. I'm

> wondering if anyone else who was hypoT and then

> got treated properly

> lost that nasty joint pain? I guess I'm just

> hoping that it hasn't

> gone on too long and perhaps this can be reversed

> somehow. Or at

> least slowed down!

>

> Another question, I've been dieting for 2 years

> and can't lose weight

> even on low calories. Will my calorie burning

> machine ever return to

> normal, or am I doomed to having the metabolism of

> a three-toed sloth

> for eternity?

>

> Thanks for any insight you can provide!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, those pains can go away if you are on the proper dose of armour or other

natural thyroid. I don't function well with a TSH of over 1., so to have

2.anything would make me be unbearable to live around or with. I remember once

when my dose of armour was too low, my right ankle area hurt for two days. I

was curious to see if it would go away if I upped the dose, and after I added

another 1/2 grain of armour, no more pain. I am also a graves patient, just no

rai. My antibodies are doing a wonderful job of destroying whatever thyroid

function i had after atd's for 2 yrs and most of that overmedicated.

I get really bad pains just about everywhere when i'm underdosed. I also get

carpal tunnel in my left hand when my dosage isn't right. I don't know why it

only affects the left hand, but so far, the right hand is good whether I'm on

enough or not. It wasn't until i upped to 3 1/2 grains of armour that I started

losing weight. I've lost 29 or 30 lbs now since Oct 2004. I don't gain weight,

but notice a slight gain around time for my period, once that's over, I'm back

to normal weight. It comes off on an average of 1-2 lbs per week and I love it!

I've not been able to lose weight in many years!

Just in case you didn't hear, most people who go hyperT (Graves or Hashi's) were

most likely to have been hypo before anything was diagnosed. I believe I was

one of those. I feel better than I have in so long, it's hard to look back and

see when I've felt this good and free from all the aches and pains that are

associated with this disease that the dr's ignore. I am now on 4 1/2 grains of

Naturethroid and have just started losing small amts of weight again.

SandyE~Houston

Questions about recovering from HypoT from a

newbie

Hello all! I'm a new member. I just started on Armour this week

after being on Levoxyl for almost 20 years (RAI for graves). I'm

pretty sure I have been slightly HypoT the entire time on Levoxyl. I

have " normal " TSH (2.04) but I did my own FT3/FT4 tests and came back

under the range on FT3, FT4 was towards the top. So I'm thinking that

I don't convert T4 properly.

Anyway, my question is this. I know that arthritis and joint problems

can be a symptom of HypoT. I'm only 46 years old and I have arthritis

(I assume it is) in my feet, toes, hands, knees and hips. I'm

wondering if anyone else who was hypoT and then got treated properly

lost that nasty joint pain? I guess I'm just hoping that it hasn't

gone on too long and perhaps this can be reversed somehow. Or at

least slowed down!

Another question, I've been dieting for 2 years and can't lose weight

even on low calories. Will my calorie burning machine ever return to

normal, or am I doomed to having the metabolism of a three-toed sloth

for eternity?

Thanks for any insight you can provide!

[Guest guest]

Yes, those pains can go away if you are on the proper dose of armour or other

natural thyroid. I don't function well with a TSH of over 1., so to have

2.anything would make me be unbearable to live around or with. I remember once

when my dose of armour was too low, my right ankle area hurt for two days. I

was curious to see if it would go away if I upped the dose, and after I added

another 1/2 grain of armour, no more pain. I am also a graves patient, just no

rai. My antibodies are doing a wonderful job of destroying whatever thyroid

function i had after atd's for 2 yrs and most of that overmedicated.

I get really bad pains just about everywhere when i'm underdosed. I also get

carpal tunnel in my left hand when my dosage isn't right. I don't know why it

only affects the left hand, but so far, the right hand is good whether I'm on

enough or not. It wasn't until i upped to 3 1/2 grains of armour that I started

losing weight. I've lost 29 or 30 lbs now since Oct 2004. I don't gain weight,

but notice a slight gain around time for my period, once that's over, I'm back

to normal weight. It comes off on an average of 1-2 lbs per week and I love it!

I've not been able to lose weight in many years!

Just in case you didn't hear, most people who go hyperT (Graves or Hashi's) were

most likely to have been hypo before anything was diagnosed. I believe I was

one of those. I feel better than I have in so long, it's hard to look back and

see when I've felt this good and free from all the aches and pains that are

associated with this disease that the dr's ignore. I am now on 4 1/2 grains of

Naturethroid and have just started losing small amts of weight again.

SandyE~Houston

Questions about recovering from HypoT from a

newbie

Hello all! I'm a new member. I just started on Armour this week

after being on Levoxyl for almost 20 years (RAI for graves). I'm

pretty sure I have been slightly HypoT the entire time on Levoxyl. I

have " normal " TSH (2.04) but I did my own FT3/FT4 tests and came back

under the range on FT3, FT4 was towards the top. So I'm thinking that

I don't convert T4 properly.

Anyway, my question is this. I know that arthritis and joint problems

can be a symptom of HypoT. I'm only 46 years old and I have arthritis

(I assume it is) in my feet, toes, hands, knees and hips. I'm

wondering if anyone else who was hypoT and then got treated properly

lost that nasty joint pain? I guess I'm just hoping that it hasn't

gone on too long and perhaps this can be reversed somehow. Or at

least slowed down!

Another question, I've been dieting for 2 years and can't lose weight

even on low calories. Will my calorie burning machine ever return to

normal, or am I doomed to having the metabolism of a three-toed sloth

for eternity?

Thanks for any insight you can provide!

[Guest guest]

Hi . You probably don't need another post--you've gotten some

great ones. But I did want to contribute that your problem may not

be that you " don't convert T4 well. " It may simply be that you have

been on a T4-only med....and have not been getting direct T3 as your

thyroid WOULD have been giving you.......and as Armour will!

I, too, have always had the metabolism of a slug. Now, on my optimal

dose of Armour, which has been 3 1/4 grains, I have noted that I

don't gain the weight as easily as I used to. Granted, I have

not " tried " to diet seriously yet, but I can tell that I might have

to chance to lose the weight I so want to lose. It's only 10 lbs,

but losing 10 lbs for ME has been like lifting a mountain!!

When you find your morning temp to be between 97.8 - 98.2, and your

afternoon temp to be at 98.6---it can be a sign that your metabolism

is very optimal.......and that you might be on your optimal

dose....and that you might be able to finally LOSE that weight!!

Janie

>

> Hello all! I'm a new member. I just started on Armour this week

> after being on Levoxyl for almost 20 years (RAI for graves). I'm

> pretty sure I have been slightly HypoT the entire time on

Levoxyl. I

> have " normal " TSH (2.04) but I did my own FT3/FT4 tests and came

back

> under the range on FT3, FT4 was towards the top. So I'm thinking

that

> I don't convert T4 properly.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi . You probably don't need another post--you've gotten some

great ones. But I did want to contribute that your problem may not

be that you " don't convert T4 well. " It may simply be that you have

been on a T4-only med....and have not been getting direct T3 as your

thyroid WOULD have been giving you.......and as Armour will!

I, too, have always had the metabolism of a slug. Now, on my optimal

dose of Armour, which has been 3 1/4 grains, I have noted that I

don't gain the weight as easily as I used to. Granted, I have

not " tried " to diet seriously yet, but I can tell that I might have

to chance to lose the weight I so want to lose. It's only 10 lbs,

but losing 10 lbs for ME has been like lifting a mountain!!

When you find your morning temp to be between 97.8 - 98.2, and your

afternoon temp to be at 98.6---it can be a sign that your metabolism

is very optimal.......and that you might be on your optimal

dose....and that you might be able to finally LOSE that weight!!

Janie

>

> Hello all! I'm a new member. I just started on Armour this week

> after being on Levoxyl for almost 20 years (RAI for graves). I'm

> pretty sure I have been slightly HypoT the entire time on

Levoxyl. I

> have " normal " TSH (2.04) but I did my own FT3/FT4 tests and came

back

> under the range on FT3, FT4 was towards the top. So I'm thinking

that

> I don't convert T4 properly.

>

[Guest guest]

Kerry

I have had all that you mentioned right from the start of hypo, I'm surprised

that you're only getting these symptoms now and on 3 1/4 grains.

I found that I had to get off armour for a couple of weeks for the adrenal

support to do its work and then slowly titrate the armour again

Lynda

Re: Questions about recovering from HypoT

from a newbie

Has anyone noticed muscle pain, stiffness, cracking ,

joint pain? I started having this pretty bad starting

a month ago. I have been on 3 1/4 grain for 4 weeks

now, just added adrenal support today. I would like to

increase my dose starting Monday, any thoughts?

[Guest guest]

I have had the cracking thing since I was on 1 1/2

grain, I just didn't think about it much as it seemed

to wax and wain. But, the higher I go on Armour, the

worse it seems to get.

Kerry

--- Lynda lyn.worth@...> wrote:

> Kerry

> I have had all that you mentioned right from the

> start of hypo, I'm surprised that you're only

> getting these symptoms now and on 3 1/4 grains.

> I found that I had to get off armour for a couple of

> weeks for the adrenal support to do its work and

> then slowly titrate the armour again

> Lynda

> Re: Questions

> about recovering from HypoT from a newbie

>

>

> Has anyone noticed muscle pain, stiffness,

> cracking ,

> joint pain? I started having this pretty bad

> starting

> a month ago. I have been on 3 1/4 grain for 4

> weeks

> now, just added adrenal support today. I would

> like to

> increase my dose starting Monday, any thoughts?

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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