Re: Supressed TSH and bone density

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 1:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ryno@... writes:

> If anyone is considering this test

> to ease their mind, it is the easiest test ever. You literally just

> have to lie down.

>

is this x-ray of some type?

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 1:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ryno@... writes:

> If anyone is considering this test

> to ease their mind, it is the easiest test ever. You literally just

> have to lie down.

>

is this x-ray of some type?

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 1:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ryno@... writes:

> If anyone is considering this test

> to ease their mind, it is the easiest test ever. You literally just

> have to lie down.

>

is this x-ray of some type?

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 1:31:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

betty_flager@... writes:

> Wow good information here. I always wondered about TSH. You always see on

> the net(WATCH OUT FOR TSH BEING SUPPRESSED, RISK OF OSTEOPOROSIS). Always

> thought it was a bunch of bull. I am glad you have good bones.

>

I think what they really mean is...too much thyroid hormone causes bone

problems. haha. so does being hypo.

but when we see suppressed TSH being used in these reports ....there is the

assumption that the person is hyper....and we know that's not's true

necessarily....in fact some folks with suppressed TSH are still struggling with

hypo.

so ....it's all messed up, isn't it? and no wonder that doc wanted to cover

his butt.

but just wanted to clarify that it's not suppressed TSH per se that is the

problem....but being hyper is the problem with the bones.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 1:45:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> Maybe I can get off the Fosamax (comes

> with a warning of adverse affects to the liver) soon!

>

have you studied this drug?

it does increase bone density...but doesn't make them stronger...i can't

remember all the particulars, but it actually can increase your risk of

fracture.

in fact that happened to my aunt after she started taking fosomax...and then

broke her wrist.

I just said " I told you so " .

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

betty_flager@... writes:

> I have heard that the bones will not absorb calcium without vitamin D. Has

> anyone heard this?

>

yep. and another reason to sit in the sun.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

betty_flager@... writes:

> I have heard that the bones will not absorb calcium without vitamin D. Has

> anyone heard this?

>

yep. and another reason to sit in the sun.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

betty_flager@... writes:

> I have heard that the bones will not absorb calcium without vitamin D. Has

> anyone heard this?

>

yep. and another reason to sit in the sun.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:18:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> Thanks for the info - I'll try to check it out. It's probably not on

> the Fosamax website, huh? LOL

>

>

lol. probably not.

I think I first read about Fosomax on Mercola's site...that would be a good

place to start.

Cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:18:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> Thanks for the info - I'll try to check it out. It's probably not on

> the Fosamax website, huh? LOL

>

>

lol. probably not.

I think I first read about Fosomax on Mercola's site...that would be a good

place to start.

Cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:18:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> Thanks for the info - I'll try to check it out. It's probably not on

> the Fosamax website, huh? LOL

>

>

lol. probably not.

I think I first read about Fosomax on Mercola's site...that would be a good

place to start.

Cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:18:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> Then I got mad, and found this group

ah - getting mad - a first step in healing i think.

Cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:18:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> Then I got mad, and found this group

ah - getting mad - a first step in healing i think.

Cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:18:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> Then I got mad, and found this group

ah - getting mad - a first step in healing i think.

Cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:41:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> - he replied

> that " Gas is a social problem, not a physical one. " I wanted to

> smack him for that, and probably should have!

>

aren't they amazingly stupid to have a M.D. behind their name?

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:41:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> - he replied

> that " Gas is a social problem, not a physical one. " I wanted to

> smack him for that, and probably should have!

>

aren't they amazingly stupid to have a M.D. behind their name?

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:41:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

joyce_bickford@... writes:

> - he replied

> that " Gas is a social problem, not a physical one. " I wanted to

> smack him for that, and probably should have!

>

aren't they amazingly stupid to have a M.D. behind their name?

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:48:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

stacyrockette@... writes:

> They just don't get it. The doctors have tried

> everything and they keep treating every symptom as

> individual instead of the cause and refuse to accept

> there is a possible alternative treatment that could

> help me.

>

because they make more money that way....

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:59:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ryno@... writes:

> Yes, it is low level xray. I think they called it a Dexascan.

>

thanks for the info.

I was just reading the other day about mammograms...and getting

radiation...which over time of course will probably cause cancer...and so I'm

just leary of

any radiation.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:59:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ryno@... writes:

> Yes, it is low level xray. I think they called it a Dexascan.

>

thanks for the info.

I was just reading the other day about mammograms...and getting

radiation...which over time of course will probably cause cancer...and so I'm

just leary of

any radiation.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2005 2:59:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ryno@... writes:

> Yes, it is low level xray. I think they called it a Dexascan.

>

thanks for the info.

I was just reading the other day about mammograms...and getting

radiation...which over time of course will probably cause cancer...and so I'm

just leary of

any radiation.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2005 4:57:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

groversyck@... writes:

> What is the URl for the site.

>

http://www.mercola.com/

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 4:57:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

groversyck@... writes:

> What is the URl for the site.

>

http://www.mercola.com/

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 4:57:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

groversyck@... writes:

> What is the URl for the site.

>

http://www.mercola.com/

cindi

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In a message dated 3/23/2005 4:57:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

groversyck@... writes:

> I think I first read about Fosomax on Mercola's site...that would be

> a good

> >place to start.

>

doing a search on the mercola site shows a lot of stuff for Fosomax..but

here's one blurb:

Dr. Lee is the physician who wrote " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You

About PRE Menopause " He is very strongly opposed to the use of Fosamax, and I

could not agree with him more on this issue. It is interesting that Merck, the

manufacturer of Fosamax, funded both of these studies and both appeared in two

well respected medical journals the same week.

Fosamax is in the same chemical class (phosphonate) that is used in the

cleaners used to remove soap scum from your bath tub. This is a metabolic poison

that actually kills the osteoclasts. These are the cells that remove your bone

so your osteoblasts can actually rebuild your bone.

It is quite clear that if you kill these cells your bone will get denser.

What these studies do not show is that four years later the bone actually

becomes

weaker even though it is more dense.

This is because bone is a dynamic structure and requires the removal and

REPLACEMENT of new bone to stay strong. Fosamax does NOT build ANY new bone. The

true solution, as I have reviewed in previous newsletters, is to go on natural

progesterone. One can review Dr. Lee's book for more information.

Cindi