Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 I am so lucky, and thankful that I have a Dr. who understands pain and is willing to prescribe meds for it. It truly saddens me to read about you wonderful people whose *** doctors don't believe in pain meds for fibro. Hello? What kind of Drs are these? Is there no longer a thing called the Hippocratic Oath that ethically makes doctors beholden to lessen human pain and suffering? My Dr, a DO in general family practice, is aware that the most effective treatment for fibro is a combination of improved sleep, pain control, massage, and antidepressants if needed. I take Vicodin ES, Flexeril, and Zoloft. These meds may not work for everyone. I can't take NSAIDS at all due to GI probs, and my Dr knows this. I had run out of Vicodin several months ago but still had flexeril. I went to my Doc for a Vicodin renewal, and asked why the flexeril no longer seemed to be working. He told me that muscle relaxants were practically useless if I was in severe pain, and would only have an effect if the pain was under control. Not to say " completely absent " cuz it never is gone. But if my pain is at a manageable level, then the flexeril can do it's job. I only wish I could afford an hour of massage every week. Even if I could, it's all I can do to stay on the table for 30 minutes due to pain from lying on a somewhat hard table. My fibro pain is totally different than pain caused by osteoarthritis. I have OA in my hands since I was 15, and traumatic arthritis in my extreme lower back and left hip due to a car crash. Please try not to get too discouraged by Drs who don't want to prescribe pain meds, keep on searching. I think there's a backlash of some kind about prescribing opiate analgesics. Addiction is not dependence is not taking the meds so you *can* get off the couch and go to the grocery store, cook dinner, do a tad of housecleaning, etc. Gentle hugs, Ann R. in TX who has become totally nocturnal to escape the heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 I am so lucky, and thankful that I have a Dr. who understands pain and is willing to prescribe meds for it. It truly saddens me to read about you wonderful people whose *** doctors don't believe in pain meds for fibro. Hello? What kind of Drs are these? Is there no longer a thing called the Hippocratic Oath that ethically makes doctors beholden to lessen human pain and suffering? My Dr, a DO in general family practice, is aware that the most effective treatment for fibro is a combination of improved sleep, pain control, massage, and antidepressants if needed. I take Vicodin ES, Flexeril, and Zoloft. These meds may not work for everyone. I can't take NSAIDS at all due to GI probs, and my Dr knows this. I had run out of Vicodin several months ago but still had flexeril. I went to my Doc for a Vicodin renewal, and asked why the flexeril no longer seemed to be working. He told me that muscle relaxants were practically useless if I was in severe pain, and would only have an effect if the pain was under control. Not to say " completely absent " cuz it never is gone. But if my pain is at a manageable level, then the flexeril can do it's job. I only wish I could afford an hour of massage every week. Even if I could, it's all I can do to stay on the table for 30 minutes due to pain from lying on a somewhat hard table. My fibro pain is totally different than pain caused by osteoarthritis. I have OA in my hands since I was 15, and traumatic arthritis in my extreme lower back and left hip due to a car crash. Please try not to get too discouraged by Drs who don't want to prescribe pain meds, keep on searching. I think there's a backlash of some kind about prescribing opiate analgesics. Addiction is not dependence is not taking the meds so you *can* get off the couch and go to the grocery store, cook dinner, do a tad of housecleaning, etc. Gentle hugs, Ann R. in TX who has become totally nocturnal to escape the heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Hi Ann, --- ariley@... wrote: > I went to my Doc for a > Vicodin renewal, and > asked why the flexeril no longer seemed to be > working. He told me that > muscle relaxants were practically useless if I was > in severe pain, and would > only have an effect if the pain was under control. Flexeril does nothing for me either. See if your doc can prescribe you Zanaflex, that one works for me. Zanaflex helps you sleep and relaxes your muscles so that they have at least some down time from the pain and tension. > I think there's a > backlash of some kind about > prescribing opiate analgesics. Addiction is not > dependence is not taking the > meds so you *can* get off the couch and go to the > grocery store, cook > dinner, do a tad of housecleaning, etc. You are absolutely right, from what my Doctor syas the federal government is trying to make it so difficult/nearly illegal for doctors to prescribe opiodes (sp?) that very few of them are taking the risks now. Dr. Deagle says that if they do not feel the opiate was prescribed or taken correctly then they can arrest the patient, the doctor and the pharmacist. That's what I've heard, anyway. Thanks, Charity __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Hi Ann, --- ariley@... wrote: > I went to my Doc for a > Vicodin renewal, and > asked why the flexeril no longer seemed to be > working. He told me that > muscle relaxants were practically useless if I was > in severe pain, and would > only have an effect if the pain was under control. Flexeril does nothing for me either. See if your doc can prescribe you Zanaflex, that one works for me. Zanaflex helps you sleep and relaxes your muscles so that they have at least some down time from the pain and tension. > I think there's a > backlash of some kind about > prescribing opiate analgesics. Addiction is not > dependence is not taking the > meds so you *can* get off the couch and go to the > grocery store, cook > dinner, do a tad of housecleaning, etc. You are absolutely right, from what my Doctor syas the federal government is trying to make it so difficult/nearly illegal for doctors to prescribe opiodes (sp?) that very few of them are taking the risks now. Dr. Deagle says that if they do not feel the opiate was prescribed or taken correctly then they can arrest the patient, the doctor and the pharmacist. That's what I've heard, anyway. Thanks, Charity __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Hi Ann, --- ariley@... wrote: > I went to my Doc for a > Vicodin renewal, and > asked why the flexeril no longer seemed to be > working. He told me that > muscle relaxants were practically useless if I was > in severe pain, and would > only have an effect if the pain was under control. Flexeril does nothing for me either. See if your doc can prescribe you Zanaflex, that one works for me. Zanaflex helps you sleep and relaxes your muscles so that they have at least some down time from the pain and tension. > I think there's a > backlash of some kind about > prescribing opiate analgesics. Addiction is not > dependence is not taking the > meds so you *can* get off the couch and go to the > grocery store, cook > dinner, do a tad of housecleaning, etc. You are absolutely right, from what my Doctor syas the federal government is trying to make it so difficult/nearly illegal for doctors to prescribe opiodes (sp?) that very few of them are taking the risks now. Dr. Deagle says that if they do not feel the opiate was prescribed or taken correctly then they can arrest the patient, the doctor and the pharmacist. That's what I've heard, anyway. Thanks, Charity __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 I am not sure whether doctors are not trying to help us. Yes, they certainly have constrains upon them but many things are considered when prescribing pain treatment for a patient. I take oxycontin. It is unlike Vicodin in the fact that it is one class above in the classification of prescription drugs. It is a " Class 2 " drug and has much more control placed upon it then the vicodin. Although such constraints vary from state to state, where I live, a patient must turn in a formal written script from the doctor to obtain a 30 day supply. These scripts are only good for 72 hours, or something like that, from the time they are written. I get my filled at Wal-mart and on the info form they give you, it does state the federal laws regarding distributing amongst anyone other then the person to whom the drug was intended can result in fines of... and prison for up to... and so on. Anyways, just thought i would throw in my two cents. I don't post here often because I receive in digest form and can not keep up with the postings like i would like. Take care all and be well! Always, cloud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 I am not sure whether doctors are not trying to help us. Yes, they certainly have constrains upon them but many things are considered when prescribing pain treatment for a patient. I take oxycontin. It is unlike Vicodin in the fact that it is one class above in the classification of prescription drugs. It is a " Class 2 " drug and has much more control placed upon it then the vicodin. Although such constraints vary from state to state, where I live, a patient must turn in a formal written script from the doctor to obtain a 30 day supply. These scripts are only good for 72 hours, or something like that, from the time they are written. I get my filled at Wal-mart and on the info form they give you, it does state the federal laws regarding distributing amongst anyone other then the person to whom the drug was intended can result in fines of... and prison for up to... and so on. Anyways, just thought i would throw in my two cents. I don't post here often because I receive in digest form and can not keep up with the postings like i would like. Take care all and be well! Always, cloud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Although such constraints vary from state to state, where I live, a patient must turn in a formal written script from the doctor to obtain a 30 day supply. These scripts are only good for 72 hours, or something like that, from the time they are written. In Texas it is 7 days that they are good. Take care, Irene Books may well be the only true magic Alice Hoffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 In a message dated 08/13/2002 6:30:33 AM US Eastern Standard Time, ariley@... writes: > I only wish I could afford an hour of massage > every week. meee too. I use to go for about two months...and boy did it help between the massage and the shots of Torradol every 6 weeks. I was beginning to get a handle on it....then the funds ran out...and I can't afford it now. I want to go to school sooo bad for massage therapy, but just can't afford it. It costs 4,000.00 to go to massage school here in Indiana....that isn't the cost of your table either. ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 In a message dated 08/13/2002 10:21:47 AM US Eastern Standard Time, ember_thunderwolf@... writes: > Zanaflex helps you sleep and relaxes your muscles I too am on Zanaflex, but I'm sooo sensitive to medicene's I sleep forever and I wake up with medicene head. When I went to the Rheumy few weeks ago she upset me sooo much. I asked her if she could refer me to a doctor who could help me since she didn't know what else to do for me. She said well I have you on the right stuff, but you claim that everything knocks you out...and since your soo sensitive to stuff there isn't a doctor in the united states that can help you...the rest is on your shoulders... By the time I got out of that doctors office I was soo upset and my head was killing me....My shoulder was completely drawn up to the side of my neck and I couldn't even turn my head to the left from my shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Allicia21@... wrote: She said well I have > you on the right stuff, but you claim that everything knocks you out...and > since your soo sensitive to stuff there isn't a doctor in the united states > that can help you...the rest is on your shoulders... Humph!! She surely could have put things a bit better than that, and *tried* to work with you on things. My doctor knows I tend to be sensitive with medicine too, so she always tries me on the lowest does first, and twice as slowly as anyone else, bring me up to a higher dose. How does she know she has you on the " right stuff " if it isn't working for you? She needs to start trying other things besides what she thinks should be perfect! Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Darcy writes > My doctor knows I tend to be > sensitive with medicine too, so she always tries me on the lowest does > first, and twice as slowly as anyone else, bring me up to a higher > dose. > > That is what my doctor had to do also. I am very sensitive to medication. > One reason being the tinnitus. There are many meds that can make it worse > and I couldn't stand it getting worse. Take care, Irene Books may well be the only true magic Alice Hoffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Darcy writes > My doctor knows I tend to be > sensitive with medicine too, so she always tries me on the lowest does > first, and twice as slowly as anyone else, bring me up to a higher > dose. > > That is what my doctor had to do also. I am very sensitive to medication. > One reason being the tinnitus. There are many meds that can make it worse > and I couldn't stand it getting worse. Take care, Irene Books may well be the only true magic Alice Hoffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Darcy writes > My doctor knows I tend to be > sensitive with medicine too, so she always tries me on the lowest does > first, and twice as slowly as anyone else, bring me up to a higher > dose. > > That is what my doctor had to do also. I am very sensitive to medication. > One reason being the tinnitus. There are many meds that can make it worse > and I couldn't stand it getting worse. Take care, Irene Books may well be the only true magic Alice Hoffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 In a message dated 08/14/2002 6:45:54 PM US Eastern Standard Time, genoa816@... writes: > . Does anyone have problems with their hip? I saw my doctor 3 weeks ago for > my left hip. Originally there was a very large bruise just above the hip. > Although I can't for the life of me remember banging it in to anything. (As > large as it was, I for sure would have remembered.) > He thought it was bursitis and prescribed 800mgs Ibuprofin. Well, it's > still no better. Yes I have bursitis in my right hip...I usually get shots of Torradol every 6 weeks in my hip...that helps tremendoulsy, but the last time I went to this so called doc of mine she wouldn't give me a shot...so...I've been taking 8 - 100 mg. of Ib's as well. I had to get a new bed....(the store I bought it from calls it the marshmellow bed) thats how soft it is....It helps with my bursitis. I have it in my right shoulder as well...It seems as if my whole right side of my body is going down the drain....everything hurts 50 x's worse on my right side than on my left....do any of you experience this? I would mention the Torradol shot to your doc to see if that is an option for you. Hugzzz Allicia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 WOW! You all are making me very glad I live in California where my doctor can prescribe all the meds I need. I've never heard of all these restrictions before. I certainly hope this never happens here. I'd just drop dead without my meds. I've got a question for you all. Does anyone have problems with their hip? I saw my doctor 3 weeks ago for my left hip. Originally there was a very large bruise just above the hip. Although I can't for the life of me remember banging it in to anything. (As large as it was, I for sure would have remembered.) He thought it was bursitis and prescribed 800mgs Ibuprofin. Well, it's still no better. I will call him, but I was curious to find out if anyone else has had a similar problem. It hurts really bad after I have been sitting, laying or standing and change position. I really hope it isn't RA. Lastly, Missy great story! We have had bears come down from the foothills here in Monrovia. I think I'd probably faint if I encountered one that close. Your story was priceless. Send it to Readers Digest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 WOW! You all are making me very glad I live in California where my doctor can prescribe all the meds I need. I've never heard of all these restrictions before. I certainly hope this never happens here. I'd just drop dead without my meds. I've got a question for you all. Does anyone have problems with their hip? I saw my doctor 3 weeks ago for my left hip. Originally there was a very large bruise just above the hip. Although I can't for the life of me remember banging it in to anything. (As large as it was, I for sure would have remembered.) He thought it was bursitis and prescribed 800mgs Ibuprofin. Well, it's still no better. I will call him, but I was curious to find out if anyone else has had a similar problem. It hurts really bad after I have been sitting, laying or standing and change position. I really hope it isn't RA. Lastly, Missy great story! We have had bears come down from the foothills here in Monrovia. I think I'd probably faint if I encountered one that close. Your story was priceless. Send it to Readers Digest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Thanks for the advice Allicia. I will ask at my next appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Thanks for the advice Allicia. I will ask at my next appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Thanks for the advice Allicia. I will ask at my next appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Allicia wrote > Yes I have bursitis in my right hip...I usually get shots of > Torradol every 6 > weeks in my hip...that helps tremendously, but the last time I went to this > > so called doc of mine she wouldn't give me a shot... > > I had bursitis in my right shoulder and my doctor gave me a shot of > Cortisone and I never had a problem after that. Take care, Irene Books may well be the only true magic Alice Hoffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Allicia wrote > Yes I have bursitis in my right hip...I usually get shots of > Torradol every 6 > weeks in my hip...that helps tremendously, but the last time I went to this > > so called doc of mine she wouldn't give me a shot... > > I had bursitis in my right shoulder and my doctor gave me a shot of > Cortisone and I never had a problem after that. Take care, Irene Books may well be the only true magic Alice Hoffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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