Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Barb, This is an interesting study. The 10 and 20 year risks for CCA are lower than most other studies I have seen. Several encouraging facts are that the risk is only 7% when excluding all patients who develop CCA within 6 months of diagnosis – suggesting it was present at the onset of the study. It was also encouraging that there is no difference in the 10 year and 20 year risks, suggesting that CCA develops early in the course of the disease. Although there are many factors here, and many participants reached endpoints, it is still an encouraging study. Thank you for posting it! Rick From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Barb Henshaw Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:11 PM To: Subject: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and 126 (60%) had inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Median transplantation-free survival was 14 years. The risk of CCA after 10 and 20 years was 9% and 9%, respectively. In patients with concomitant IBD the 10-year and 20-year risks for CRC were 14% and 31%, which was significantly higher than for patients without IBD (2% and 2% (P = 0.008)). CCA, cholangitis, and age at entry were independent risk factors for the combined endpoint death or liver transplantation. Risk factors for the endpoint death were CCA, CRC, age, and symptomatic presentation. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6W7C-4TNTK8H-2 & _user=10 & _coverDate=01%2F31%2F2009 & _rdoc=25 & _fmt=high & _orig=browse & _srch=doc-info(%23toc%236623%232009%23999499998%23761094%23FLA%23display%23Volume) & _cdi=6623 & _sort=d & _docanchor= & _ct=40 & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=407922a16c95b8853cd06136ebd28ab4 Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight - Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (34) UC 91 PSC 99, LTX 6/21 & 6/30 2007 @ Baylor/Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Barb, This is an interesting study. The 10 and 20 year risks for CCA are lower than most other studies I have seen. Several encouraging facts are that the risk is only 7% when excluding all patients who develop CCA within 6 months of diagnosis – suggesting it was present at the onset of the study. It was also encouraging that there is no difference in the 10 year and 20 year risks, suggesting that CCA develops early in the course of the disease. Although there are many factors here, and many participants reached endpoints, it is still an encouraging study. Thank you for posting it! Rick From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Barb Henshaw Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:11 PM To: Subject: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and 126 (60%) had inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Median transplantation-free survival was 14 years. The risk of CCA after 10 and 20 years was 9% and 9%, respectively. In patients with concomitant IBD the 10-year and 20-year risks for CRC were 14% and 31%, which was significantly higher than for patients without IBD (2% and 2% (P = 0.008)). CCA, cholangitis, and age at entry were independent risk factors for the combined endpoint death or liver transplantation. Risk factors for the endpoint death were CCA, CRC, age, and symptomatic presentation. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6W7C-4TNTK8H-2 & _user=10 & _coverDate=01%2F31%2F2009 & _rdoc=25 & _fmt=high & _orig=browse & _srch=doc-info(%23toc%236623%232009%23999499998%23761094%23FLA%23display%23Volume) & _cdi=6623 & _sort=d & _docanchor= & _ct=40 & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=407922a16c95b8853cd06136ebd28ab4 Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight - Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (34) UC 91 PSC 99, LTX 6/21 & 6/30 2007 @ Baylor/Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Barb, This is an interesting study. The 10 and 20 year risks for CCA are lower than most other studies I have seen. Several encouraging facts are that the risk is only 7% when excluding all patients who develop CCA within 6 months of diagnosis – suggesting it was present at the onset of the study. It was also encouraging that there is no difference in the 10 year and 20 year risks, suggesting that CCA develops early in the course of the disease. Although there are many factors here, and many participants reached endpoints, it is still an encouraging study. Thank you for posting it! Rick From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Barb Henshaw Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:11 PM To: Subject: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and 126 (60%) had inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Median transplantation-free survival was 14 years. The risk of CCA after 10 and 20 years was 9% and 9%, respectively. In patients with concomitant IBD the 10-year and 20-year risks for CRC were 14% and 31%, which was significantly higher than for patients without IBD (2% and 2% (P = 0.008)). CCA, cholangitis, and age at entry were independent risk factors for the combined endpoint death or liver transplantation. Risk factors for the endpoint death were CCA, CRC, age, and symptomatic presentation. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6W7C-4TNTK8H-2 & _user=10 & _coverDate=01%2F31%2F2009 & _rdoc=25 & _fmt=high & _orig=browse & _srch=doc-info(%23toc%236623%232009%23999499998%23761094%23FLA%23display%23Volume) & _cdi=6623 & _sort=d & _docanchor= & _ct=40 & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=407922a16c95b8853cd06136ebd28ab4 Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight - Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (34) UC 91 PSC 99, LTX 6/21 & 6/30 2007 @ Baylor/Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Barb, I am in Texas as well, near the Austin area. Can you recommend studies and/or specialists that are in the Texas area? LarsonTo: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:10:47 AMSubject: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and 126 (60%) had inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Median transplantation-free survival was 14 years. The risk of CCA after 10 and 20 years was 9% and 9%, respectively. In patients with concomitant IBD the 10-year and 20-year risks for CRC were 14% and 31%, which was significantly higher than for patients without IBD (2% and 2% (P = 0.008)). CCA, cholangitis, and age at entry were independent risk factors for the combined endpoint death or liver transplantation. Risk factors for the endpoint death were CCA, CRC, age, and symptomatic presentation. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6W7C-4TNTK8H-2 & _user=10 & _coverDate=01%2F31%2F2009 & _rdoc=25 & _fmt=high & _orig=browse & _srch=doc-info(%23toc%236623%232009%23999499998%23761094%23FLA%23display%23Volume) & _cdi=6623 & _sort=d & _docanchor= & _ct=40 & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=407922a16c95b8853cd06136ebd28ab4 Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight - Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (34) UC 91 PSC 99, LTX 6/21 & 6/30 2007 @ Baylor/Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Barb, I am in Texas as well, near the Austin area. Can you recommend studies and/or specialists that are in the Texas area? LarsonTo: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:10:47 AMSubject: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and 126 (60%) had inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Median transplantation-free survival was 14 years. The risk of CCA after 10 and 20 years was 9% and 9%, respectively. In patients with concomitant IBD the 10-year and 20-year risks for CRC were 14% and 31%, which was significantly higher than for patients without IBD (2% and 2% (P = 0.008)). CCA, cholangitis, and age at entry were independent risk factors for the combined endpoint death or liver transplantation. Risk factors for the endpoint death were CCA, CRC, age, and symptomatic presentation. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6W7C-4TNTK8H-2 & _user=10 & _coverDate=01%2F31%2F2009 & _rdoc=25 & _fmt=high & _orig=browse & _srch=doc-info(%23toc%236623%232009%23999499998%23761094%23FLA%23display%23Volume) & _cdi=6623 & _sort=d & _docanchor= & _ct=40 & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=407922a16c95b8853cd06136ebd28ab4 Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight - Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (34) UC 91 PSC 99, LTX 6/21 & 6/30 2007 @ Baylor/Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Barb, I am in Texas as well, near the Austin area. Can you recommend studies and/or specialists that are in the Texas area? LarsonTo: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:10:47 AMSubject: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and 126 (60%) had inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Median transplantation-free survival was 14 years. The risk of CCA after 10 and 20 years was 9% and 9%, respectively. In patients with concomitant IBD the 10-year and 20-year risks for CRC were 14% and 31%, which was significantly higher than for patients without IBD (2% and 2% (P = 0.008)). CCA, cholangitis, and age at entry were independent risk factors for the combined endpoint death or liver transplantation. Risk factors for the endpoint death were CCA, CRC, age, and symptomatic presentation. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6W7C-4TNTK8H-2 & _user=10 & _coverDate=01%2F31%2F2009 & _rdoc=25 & _fmt=high & _orig=browse & _srch=doc-info(%23toc%236623%232009%23999499998%23761094%23FLA%23display%23Volume) & _cdi=6623 & _sort=d & _docanchor= & _ct=40 & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=407922a16c95b8853cd06136ebd28ab4 Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight - Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (34) UC 91 PSC 99, LTX 6/21 & 6/30 2007 @ Baylor/Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Thanks. I have learned to read this (as a PSCer with CD) that in 20 years, I have a 70-85% chance of being cancer free. > > Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Thanks. I have learned to read this (as a PSCer with CD) that in 20 years, I have a 70-85% chance of being cancer free. > > Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Also, is it that the risk is lower with Crohn's vs UC, or just that more study participants have UC than CD? > > > > Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Also, is it that the risk is lower with Crohn's vs UC, or just that more study participants have UC than CD? > > > > Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Also, is it that the risk is lower with Crohn's vs UC, or just that more study participants have UC than CD? > > > > Two hundred and eleven patients were included, 143 (68%) were male and > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Check with Baylor. They’ve got the best liver programs in our area. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Larson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:07 PM To: Subject: Re: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Barb, I am in Texas as well, near the Austin area. Can you recommend studies and/or specialists that are in the Texas area? Larson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Check with Baylor. They’ve got the best liver programs in our area. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Larson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:07 PM To: Subject: Re: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Barb, I am in Texas as well, near the Austin area. Can you recommend studies and/or specialists that are in the Texas area? Larson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Check with Baylor. They’ve got the best liver programs in our area. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Larson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:07 PM To: Subject: Re: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC Barb, I am in Texas as well, near the Austin area. Can you recommend studies and/or specialists that are in the Texas area? Larson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 What I notice in this study: · 9% risk of CCA at 10 and 20 years goes against what has been said in the past; as in the longer you have PSC, the greater the risk of CCA (yea!). · CRC much more likely than CCA (annual colonoscopies imperative, especially if you have IBD at diagnosis!) · CRC = reduced survival · Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10). · Nearly all CCAs presented within the first three years after PSC. This is consistent with last year’s PSC conference – they’re much more worried about CCA just after diagnosis. · “IBD in PSC patients is characterized by a high prevalence of pancolitis with rectal sparing, a mild and sometimes asymptomatic course and a lower colectomy rate.” · I’m afraid I don’t understand the risk factor of age. Older age at diagnosis = greater risk? Interesting information! Arne UC 1977, PSC 2000 Alive and well in Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 What I notice in this study: · 9% risk of CCA at 10 and 20 years goes against what has been said in the past; as in the longer you have PSC, the greater the risk of CCA (yea!). · CRC much more likely than CCA (annual colonoscopies imperative, especially if you have IBD at diagnosis!) · CRC = reduced survival · Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10). · Nearly all CCAs presented within the first three years after PSC. This is consistent with last year’s PSC conference – they’re much more worried about CCA just after diagnosis. · “IBD in PSC patients is characterized by a high prevalence of pancolitis with rectal sparing, a mild and sometimes asymptomatic course and a lower colectomy rate.” · I’m afraid I don’t understand the risk factor of age. Older age at diagnosis = greater risk? Interesting information! Arne UC 1977, PSC 2000 Alive and well in Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 What I notice in this study: · 9% risk of CCA at 10 and 20 years goes against what has been said in the past; as in the longer you have PSC, the greater the risk of CCA (yea!). · CRC much more likely than CCA (annual colonoscopies imperative, especially if you have IBD at diagnosis!) · CRC = reduced survival · Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10). · Nearly all CCAs presented within the first three years after PSC. This is consistent with last year’s PSC conference – they’re much more worried about CCA just after diagnosis. · “IBD in PSC patients is characterized by a high prevalence of pancolitis with rectal sparing, a mild and sometimes asymptomatic course and a lower colectomy rate.” · I’m afraid I don’t understand the risk factor of age. Older age at diagnosis = greater risk? Interesting information! Arne UC 1977, PSC 2000 Alive and well in Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10).This sounds great, but there's no new treatment for PSC that I'm aware of. So the longer time of being transplant free (or death free) can probably be attributed to people being diagnosed earlier in the course of the disease. Which means you've got to live with the anxiety of this disease for a longer time.What is nice is that more research is showing that the risk for CCA might go down the longer you have PSC (since the greatest risk is when you are newly diagnosed). Marie To: From: stonehollowmn@...Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:45:23 -0600Subject: RE: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC What I notice in this study: · 9% risk of CCA at 10 and 20 years goes against what has been said in the past; as in the longer you have PSC, the greater the risk of CCA (yea!). · CRC much more likely than CCA (annual colonoscopies imperative, especially if you have IBD at diagnosis!) · CRC = reduced survival · Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10). · Nearly all CCAs presented within the first three years after PSC. This is consistent with last year’s PSC conference – they’re much more worried about CCA just after diagnosis. · “IBD in PSC patients is characterized by a high prevalence of pancolitis with rectal sparing, a mild and sometimes asymptomatic course and a lower colectomy rate.” · I’m afraid I don’t understand the risk factor of age. Older age at diagnosis = greater risk? Interesting information! Arne UC 1977, PSC 2000 Alive and well in Minnesota Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10).This sounds great, but there's no new treatment for PSC that I'm aware of. So the longer time of being transplant free (or death free) can probably be attributed to people being diagnosed earlier in the course of the disease. Which means you've got to live with the anxiety of this disease for a longer time.What is nice is that more research is showing that the risk for CCA might go down the longer you have PSC (since the greatest risk is when you are newly diagnosed). Marie To: From: stonehollowmn@...Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:45:23 -0600Subject: RE: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC What I notice in this study: · 9% risk of CCA at 10 and 20 years goes against what has been said in the past; as in the longer you have PSC, the greater the risk of CCA (yea!). · CRC much more likely than CCA (annual colonoscopies imperative, especially if you have IBD at diagnosis!) · CRC = reduced survival · Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10). · Nearly all CCAs presented within the first three years after PSC. This is consistent with last year’s PSC conference – they’re much more worried about CCA just after diagnosis. · “IBD in PSC patients is characterized by a high prevalence of pancolitis with rectal sparing, a mild and sometimes asymptomatic course and a lower colectomy rate.” · I’m afraid I don’t understand the risk factor of age. Older age at diagnosis = greater risk? Interesting information! Arne UC 1977, PSC 2000 Alive and well in Minnesota Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10).This sounds great, but there's no new treatment for PSC that I'm aware of. So the longer time of being transplant free (or death free) can probably be attributed to people being diagnosed earlier in the course of the disease. Which means you've got to live with the anxiety of this disease for a longer time.What is nice is that more research is showing that the risk for CCA might go down the longer you have PSC (since the greatest risk is when you are newly diagnosed). Marie To: From: stonehollowmn@...Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:45:23 -0600Subject: RE: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC What I notice in this study: · 9% risk of CCA at 10 and 20 years goes against what has been said in the past; as in the longer you have PSC, the greater the risk of CCA (yea!). · CRC much more likely than CCA (annual colonoscopies imperative, especially if you have IBD at diagnosis!) · CRC = reduced survival · Median transplantation-free = 14 years (we’ve usually heard 10). · Nearly all CCAs presented within the first three years after PSC. This is consistent with last year’s PSC conference – they’re much more worried about CCA just after diagnosis. · “IBD in PSC patients is characterized by a high prevalence of pancolitis with rectal sparing, a mild and sometimes asymptomatic course and a lower colectomy rate.” · I’m afraid I don’t understand the risk factor of age. Older age at diagnosis = greater risk? Interesting information! Arne UC 1977, PSC 2000 Alive and well in Minnesota Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 San has Methodist Specialty and Transplant Hospital. http://msth.sahealth.com/ I have been pleased with my 2 visits to the Liver Clinic and they have a monthly clinic in Corpus. Susie > > Barb, I am in Texas as well, near the Austin area. Can you recommend studies and/or specialists that are in the Texas area? > > Larson > > > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 San has Methodist Specialty and Transplant Hospital. http://msth.sahealth.com/ I have been pleased with my 2 visits to the Liver Clinic and they have a monthly clinic in Corpus. Susie > > Barb, I am in Texas as well, near the Austin area. Can you recommend studies and/or specialists that are in the Texas area? > > Larson > > > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hi, What are CCA and CRC?Karla30 yo, IBD 1yr, PSC 3mosTo: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:10:47 AMSubject: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I am sorry to say that they are two types of cancer that we are at risk for CCA -cholangiocarcinoma and CRC - colorectal carcinoma Dawn > > Hi, What are CCA and CRC? > Karla > 30 yo, IBD 1yr, PSC 3mos > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Barb Henshaw > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:10:47 AM > Subject: High lifetime risk of cancer in PSC > > > T > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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