Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Does the pain last for a long time? If I ever have pain it seems to be short sharp pains. Sent from my iPhone Thanks! I hope the ERCP will help. This is a new experience for me. I can't say I am in SERIOUS pain, but it was bad enough not to go to the gym this morning and make finding a comfortable sleeping position hard at night. Regards, Chaim Boermeester, Israel > > Your ERCP may help as it did for me last year when I was suffering > really bad from pain.If it doesn't please do ask for some pain meds. I > have morphine now if my pains really bad. good luck hope you are in > less pain soon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 For years I would get RUQ pain every 4 to 6 weeks, but no fever. I took antibiotics (cipro or flagyl) and I would start to feel better in a few days. More recently (last few years) the pain is almost constant and I get no relief from antibiotics. There is no good explanation for the pain. I too find it hard to sleep at night because of the pain and exercise is very hard if not impossible. Do you have shortness of breath?Subject: Re: RUQ painTo: Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 12:00 PM Thanks! I hope the ERCP will help. This is a new experience for me. I can't say I am in SERIOUS pain, but it was bad enough not to go to the gym this morning and make finding a comfortable sleeping position hard at night. Regards, Chaim Boermeester, Israel > > Your ERCP may help as it did for me last year when I was suffering > really bad from pain.If it doesn't please do ask for some pain meds. I > have morphine now if my pains really bad. good luck hope you are in > less pain soon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hi Chaim,I am not sure what shortness of breath has to do with RUQ pain either, but it could be related to an infection somewhere. If I were you, I would give antibiotics a chance (10 days of either flagyl or cipro). It helped me for years. At the Mayo Clinic (Dr. Lindor) said that GI organs were never made to pin point pain; they just don't have nerves that allow sensitivity like we have in our skin. So we get pain in one area but it is referred from another area of the gut. PSC can inflame the ducts, galbadder, pancrease, diaphram, etc. All these can result in pain. Adhesions after gut sugery can also cause pain. In short, no one can easily explain the pain, unless you blood work has recently taken a big jump for the worse. In this case, they assume it is a blockage in the duct.Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hi Chaim,I am not sure what shortness of breath has to do with RUQ pain either, but it could be related to an infection somewhere. If I were you, I would give antibiotics a chance (10 days of either flagyl or cipro). It helped me for years. At the Mayo Clinic (Dr. Lindor) said that GI organs were never made to pin point pain; they just don't have nerves that allow sensitivity like we have in our skin. So we get pain in one area but it is referred from another area of the gut. PSC can inflame the ducts, galbadder, pancrease, diaphram, etc. All these can result in pain. Adhesions after gut sugery can also cause pain. In short, no one can easily explain the pain, unless you blood work has recently taken a big jump for the worse. In this case, they assume it is a blockage in the duct.Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Chaim, Congrats on a successful ERCP, but I'm sorry to hear about the after effects. Take it easy and let those antibiotics do their job. Ricky PSC 2003 Re: RUQ pain Well, I am back from the ERCP. There is good news and there is not so good news as well. Chaim Boermeester, Israel ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Chaim, It is actually good news that your ERCP went well. Plus that you are feeling much better after that cholangitis attack, and having less pain, too. I did have cholangitis, more than once and i was also kept for two or three days, depending on how soon one start to feel o.k. for release, i guess. Normally, i would stay a couple of days, even without an infection, because i kind of react badly to the preprocedure medicine, and so i feel sick afterwards and won't be able to take anything by mouth for at least two days. And like yourself, the pain did not completely disappear, but it was less and i felt better in general. I just want to mention [for every one, too], that not only i am given antibiotics [Cipro], postERCP, for seven days, but also about three days prior to it [a total of 10], inorder to try and may be lessen the probability of an infection. Best wishes to you. Subject: Re: RUQ painTo: Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:29 PM Well, I am back from the ERCP. There is good news and there is not sogood news as well.The ERCP went well, they managed to open up everything they planned toand more.The problem was afterward. Not yet half an hour after the ERCP Istarted shivering uncontrollably and developed a fever. In short, Iwas admitted to the hospital with (for me) massive cholangitis and wasreleased late this afternoon (more than two days after the ERCP) onanti-biotics but feeling a lot better and having less pain in the RUQarea. It's not gone, but it is less. So, in the end, it seems it ismostly good news.I hope that this time I will manage to stay out of the hospital forlonger than a few weeks.Chaim Boermeester, Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Chaim, It is actually good news that your ERCP went well. Plus that you are feeling much better after that cholangitis attack, and having less pain, too. I did have cholangitis, more than once and i was also kept for two or three days, depending on how soon one start to feel o.k. for release, i guess. Normally, i would stay a couple of days, even without an infection, because i kind of react badly to the preprocedure medicine, and so i feel sick afterwards and won't be able to take anything by mouth for at least two days. And like yourself, the pain did not completely disappear, but it was less and i felt better in general. I just want to mention [for every one, too], that not only i am given antibiotics [Cipro], postERCP, for seven days, but also about three days prior to it [a total of 10], inorder to try and may be lessen the probability of an infection. Best wishes to you. Subject: Re: RUQ painTo: Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:29 PM Well, I am back from the ERCP. There is good news and there is not sogood news as well.The ERCP went well, they managed to open up everything they planned toand more.The problem was afterward. Not yet half an hour after the ERCP Istarted shivering uncontrollably and developed a fever. In short, Iwas admitted to the hospital with (for me) massive cholangitis and wasreleased late this afternoon (more than two days after the ERCP) onanti-biotics but feeling a lot better and having less pain in the RUQarea. It's not gone, but it is less. So, in the end, it seems it ismostly good news.I hope that this time I will manage to stay out of the hospital forlonger than a few weeks.Chaim Boermeester, Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Chaim, It is actually good news that your ERCP went well. Plus that you are feeling much better after that cholangitis attack, and having less pain, too. I did have cholangitis, more than once and i was also kept for two or three days, depending on how soon one start to feel o.k. for release, i guess. Normally, i would stay a couple of days, even without an infection, because i kind of react badly to the preprocedure medicine, and so i feel sick afterwards and won't be able to take anything by mouth for at least two days. And like yourself, the pain did not completely disappear, but it was less and i felt better in general. I just want to mention [for every one, too], that not only i am given antibiotics [Cipro], postERCP, for seven days, but also about three days prior to it [a total of 10], inorder to try and may be lessen the probability of an infection. Best wishes to you. Subject: Re: RUQ painTo: Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:29 PM Well, I am back from the ERCP. There is good news and there is not sogood news as well.The ERCP went well, they managed to open up everything they planned toand more.The problem was afterward. Not yet half an hour after the ERCP Istarted shivering uncontrollably and developed a fever. In short, Iwas admitted to the hospital with (for me) massive cholangitis and wasreleased late this afternoon (more than two days after the ERCP) onanti-biotics but feeling a lot better and having less pain in the RUQarea. It's not gone, but it is less. So, in the end, it seems it ismostly good news.I hope that this time I will manage to stay out of the hospital forlonger than a few weeks.Chaim Boermeester, Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Hi Chaim, Even without socialized medicine, you are sometimes discharged too early. Insurance companies are always looking for a way to save money. Well, some are – my insurance is great. Nita From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of e_boermeester Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:39 AM To: Subject: Re: RUQ pain The good thing about social medicine is that you never see a serious bill for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Hi Chaim, Even without socialized medicine, you are sometimes discharged too early. Insurance companies are always looking for a way to save money. Well, some are – my insurance is great. Nita From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of e_boermeester Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:39 AM To: Subject: Re: RUQ pain The good thing about social medicine is that you never see a serious bill for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Yes, I've noticed that about the parking. Up here in Canada they charge you for parking, but once your inside the hospital everything is free, but when we had to visit a hospital in the states parking was free and everything inside was charged! We & the hospital thought our son was covered by some travellers insurance we had bought, but later insurance company balked at paying hospital's bill. In the end the hospital ate the bill, could not get much money from a 20 year old foreign (Canadian) student that didn't have any assets. About 6 month's later our son drove himself to the local hospital (he was at home, we the parents were away at the time) with a appendicitis. Ian (52) PSC 89 The good thing about social medicine is that you never see a seriousbill for anything.In the last three months I had two ERCPs, a colonoscopy, a CT, threehospital stays of 2-4 days and I payed more for parking fees at the hospital than for all these procedures together.The bad thing is that in social medicine there is an incentive to getout of the hospital ASAP, maybe faster than is good. So far it wasalways enough (I never had to go back after being released) but it might be better to stay a little longer. I did not manage to see theresults of the blood cultures before I left the hospital for example.Chaim Boermeester, Israel>> Glad your home but I am a little surprised that they let you out so> soon when I have a cholangitis attack and tablet anti botics don't> work I have to go into hospital for IV anti botics and they usually > give you 5 days at least of them before your allowed home. but maybe> its different over there. I had an ERCP this time last year and its> only a few months ago the pain came back so hopefully it will be the > same for you or better.> -- Ian Cribb P.Eng. (6... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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