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The handbook says after 6 months I think, you can. Check it out.

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> Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and I

> have

> downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the surgery

> is a

> big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> drink

> often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before I

> have

> the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> Thank you,

> le MGB wanna bee

>

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The handbook says after 6 months I think, you can. Check it out.

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browine@... wrote:

>

> Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and I

> have

> downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the surgery

> is a

> big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> drink

> often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before I

> have

> the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> Thank you,

> le MGB wanna bee

>

>

>

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Dear le,

There are many things that must be strictly adhered to before

considering the MGB. Even though you only drink occasionally now do

you think that not being able to ever drink again after surgery will

be too tempting for you? There are many things that we will have to

give up after surgery. Are you ready for this journey? This is a

very serious matter that needs well thought, calm and cool thinking

and should not be entered into on a whim. Good luck in your

decision.

MGB surg scheduled July 19th

(With Joyce, , Dena, and Kim)

> Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and

I

> have

> downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the

surgery

> is a

> big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> drink

> often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before

I

> have

> the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> Thank you,

> le MGB wanna bee

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<< how long before I

have

the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

Thank you,

le MGB wanna bee >>

Hi le,

I don't think there is any requirement on when to stop before

surgery, but I don't think I'd catch a buzz the night before. LOL LOL I think

the requirement is that you agree to abstain from booze of any kind for 6

months to 1 year and then only a very occasional drink at all for the rest of

your life. Hope this helps.

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

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In a message dated 6/23/2000 5:45:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

browine@... writes:

<< how long before I

have

the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

Thank you,

le MGB wanna bee >>

Hi le,

I don't think there is any requirement on when to stop before

surgery, but I don't think I'd catch a buzz the night before. LOL LOL I think

the requirement is that you agree to abstain from booze of any kind for 6

months to 1 year and then only a very occasional drink at all for the rest of

your life. Hope this helps.

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

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Dear le,

After this type of surgery drinking is not recommended. But you

absolutely must abstain for the first 6-12 months after surgery. As it

states in the patient manual, after this time, a very occasional drink on a

weekly or monthly basis would be reasonable. However, total abstinence from

alcohol consumption would be preferable. Alcohol has a well known toxic

effect upon the liver. It can result in fatal liver disease and stomach

ulcers. The choice is yours....there has been a case of alcohol abuse after

MGB and the person had some real problems with stomach ulcers. You need to

decide which is more important. Good Luck.

Best Wishes,

Genz

Tedeschi wrote:

> Dear le,

>

> There are many things that must be strictly adhered to before

> considering the MGB. Even though you only drink occasionally now do

> you think that not being able to ever drink again after surgery will

> be too tempting for you? There are many things that we will have to

> give up after surgery. Are you ready for this journey? This is a

> very serious matter that needs well thought, calm and cool thinking

> and should not be entered into on a whim. Good luck in your

> decision.

>

>

> MGB surg scheduled July 19th

> (With Joyce, , Dena, and Kim)

>

>

> > Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and

> I

> > have

> > downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the

> surgery

> > is a

> > big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> > drink

> > often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before

> I

> > have

> > the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> > Thank you,

> > le MGB wanna bee

>

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Hello,

I would like to thank everyone for their replies to my post. I do

understand the importance of abstaining from alcohol after the

surgery and I will do that. My question to you was how long before

the surgery should I abstain from drinking. I do know that I can't

take any Tylenol or Advil for 2 weeks before the surgery and I was

wondering if it was the same for alcohol. I am not an alcoholic but I

do occasionally like to have a drink now and then. I will not drink

for at lease a year or maybe never after I have surgery. I just would

like to know if I can have a drink with my last meal. Again I would

like to thank you for your replies and I hope to hear from you again,

Thanks,

le

MBG wanna be

> > > Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while

and

> > I

> > > have

> > > downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the

> > surgery

> > > is a

> > > big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I

don't

> > > drink

> > > often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long

before

> > I

> > > have

> > > the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> > > Thank you,

> > > le MGB wanna bee

> >

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The handbook does say 6 months but I believe Dr. Rutledge is recommending 1

year now. I went to a convention all of last week and there were 6 or 8

social functions where alcohol was served and I had no problem " just saying

no " I was not a everyday drinker but a " week-end kinda guy " [patients

deserve better during the week!]

Dr.Bill

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> The handbook says after 6 months I think, you can. Check it out.

>

> a

>

> browine@... wrote:

> >

> > Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and I

> > have

> > downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the surgery

> > is a

> > big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> > drink

> > often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before I

> > have

> > the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> > Thank you,

> > le MGB wanna bee

> >

> >

> >

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The handbook does say 6 months but I believe Dr. Rutledge is recommending 1

year now. I went to a convention all of last week and there were 6 or 8

social functions where alcohol was served and I had no problem " just saying

no " I was not a everyday drinker but a " week-end kinda guy " [patients

deserve better during the week!]

Dr.Bill

Re: I am new

> The handbook says after 6 months I think, you can. Check it out.

>

> a

>

> browine@... wrote:

> >

> > Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and I

> > have

> > downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the surgery

> > is a

> > big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> > drink

> > often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before I

> > have

> > the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> > Thank you,

> > le MGB wanna bee

> >

> >

> >

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The handbook does say 6 months but I believe Dr. Rutledge is recommending 1

year now. I went to a convention all of last week and there were 6 or 8

social functions where alcohol was served and I had no problem " just saying

no " I was not a everyday drinker but a " week-end kinda guy " [patients

deserve better during the week!]

Dr.Bill

Re: I am new

> The handbook says after 6 months I think, you can. Check it out.

>

> a

>

> browine@... wrote:

> >

> > Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and I

> > have

> > downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the surgery

> > is a

> > big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> > drink

> > often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before I

> > have

> > the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> > Thank you,

> > le MGB wanna bee

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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> > http://click.egroups.com/1/5073/3/_/453517/_/961796101/

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

> > Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm

>

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Gosh le, I didn't read your original question correctly either! And

sorry but I don't know the answer to it other than moderation is always the

key. I don't think that one drink would hurt but I wouldn't have " several " .

As a disclaimer, my area of expertise stops after the third molars and you

should probably ask Dr. R.

Dr.Bill

Re: I am new

> Hello,

> I would like to thank everyone for their replies to my post. I do

> understand the importance of abstaining from alcohol after the

> surgery and I will do that. My question to you was how long before

> the surgery should I abstain from drinking. I do know that I can't

> take any Tylenol or Advil for 2 weeks before the surgery and I was

> wondering if it was the same for alcohol. I am not an alcoholic but I

> do occasionally like to have a drink now and then. I will not drink

> for at lease a year or maybe never after I have surgery. I just would

> like to know if I can have a drink with my last meal. Again I would

> like to thank you for your replies and I hope to hear from you again,

> Thanks,

> le

> MBG wanna be

>

>

> > > > Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while

> and

> > > I

> > > > have

> > > > downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the

> > > surgery

> > > > is a

> > > > big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I

> don't

> > > > drink

> > > > often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long

> before

> > > I

> > > > have

> > > > the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> > > > Thank you,

> > > > le MGB wanna bee

> > >

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Hi a,

I think she was asking how long BEFORE the surgery should she cut out

alcohol. I don't know the answer, though.

Regards,

Debbie in IL

In a message dated 6/23/00 2:51:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<< The handbook says after 6 months I think, you can. Check it out.

a

browine@... wrote:

>

> Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and I

> have

> downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the surgery

> is a

> big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> drink

> often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before I

> have

> the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> Thank you,

> le MGB wanna bee

>

>

> >>

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Hi a,

I think she was asking how long BEFORE the surgery should she cut out

alcohol. I don't know the answer, though.

Regards,

Debbie in IL

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shoutjoy@... writes:

<< The handbook says after 6 months I think, you can. Check it out.

a

browine@... wrote:

>

> Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and I

> have

> downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the surgery

> is a

> big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> drink

> often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before I

> have

> the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> Thank you,

> le MGB wanna bee

>

>

> >>

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Hi and le,

, the way I read her post, G was saying that she drinks infrequently

and that giving it up would be NO problem. I think she was just wanting to

make sure that she gave up her occasional drinking far enough ahead of

surgery so as to be safe. I myself drink on occasion with friends, will have

no prob giving it up and, like G, don't want to do anything to mess it up, so

would want to know when to stop the occasional drinking pre-op. Now, I'm

only going by her post below-- if there was another one I didn't get it--

I've figured out that my computer somehow " screens " some posts, as I do not

get them all. LOL

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

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<< Dear le,

There are many things that must be strictly adhered to before

considering the MGB. Even though you only drink occasionally now do

you think that not being able to ever drink again after surgery will

be too tempting for you? There are many things that we will have to

give up after surgery. Are you ready for this journey? This is a

very serious matter that needs well thought, calm and cool thinking

and should not be entered into on a whim. Good luck in your

decision.

MGB surg scheduled July 19th

(With Joyce, , Dena, and Kim)

> Hello, I am a newbie. I have been reading the post for a while and

I

> have

> downloaded the manual. I see that drinking Alcohol after the

surgery

> is a

> big NO NO and I can understand that and I will follow that. I don't

> drink

> often but I do drink occasionally and was wondering how long before

I

> have

> the surgery should I refrain from having any alcohol?

> Thank you,

> le MGB wanna bee

>>

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ingramwl@... writes:

<< Gosh le, I didn't read your original question correctly either! And

sorry but I don't know the answer to it other than moderation is always the

key. I don't think that one drink would hurt but I wouldn't have " several " .

As a disclaimer, my area of expertise stops after the third molars and you

should probably ask Dr. R.

Dr.Bill

>>

Okay, Dr Bill, who takes care of your patients' wisdom teeth????? LOL

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

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In a message dated 6/23/00 7:15:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ingramwl@... writes:

<< Gosh le, I didn't read your original question correctly either! And

sorry but I don't know the answer to it other than moderation is always the

key. I don't think that one drink would hurt but I wouldn't have " several " .

As a disclaimer, my area of expertise stops after the third molars and you

should probably ask Dr. R.

Dr.Bill

>>

Okay, Dr Bill, who takes care of your patients' wisdom teeth????? LOL

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Cigna approved on 3rd appeal for daughter (BMI 45)

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40)--online form submitted 6/22

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I just joined. My husband was diagnosed with PSC in 2004 and has been

in denial about it since and wont take his ursidol and when he drinks

its all weekend but he doesn't drink for more than a month but when he

does he makes up for not. He hasn't passed a blood test for life ins

since we have been married over 10 yrs. I am concerned and he seems

oblivious to it like I am making this all up. He is 40 yrs old and has

always been on the tired side but before understanding PSC I just

thought he was lazy with no ambition. Thank you for reading this,

sometimes I just am frustrated.

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>Wow, what a challenge. Has your husband been on this support site with

you? Maybe if he reads some posts, he will see that there are very real

symptoms and consequences of this disease. There's not a whole lot that

can be done, but he is only hurting himself by at least not trying. He

will learn a lot if you can get him to read some posts. Do you have

children? Tell him that if he wants to be around for any children you

have/want to have, remind him that he will have to start taking better

care of himself.

> I just joined. My husband was diagnosed with PSC in 2004 and has been

> in denial about it since and wont take his ursidol and when he drinks

> its all weekend but he doesn't drink for more than a month but when

he

> does he makes up for not. He hasn't passed a blood test for life ins

> since we have been married over 10 yrs. I am concerned and he seems

> oblivious to it like I am making this all up. He is 40 yrs old and

has

> always been on the tired side but before understanding PSC I just

> thought he was lazy with no ambition. Thank you for reading this,

> sometimes I just am frustrated.

>

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Hi S. Komula,

Welcome to the group. We are sorry for your husband diagnosis and denial of such, but we are glad you found us. Since your husband is in denial there is not much we can do for your husband but pray (and pray we will). There are some of us with PSC that do not take URSO (it causes them side effects; increased itching, pain, upset stomach). Me if I stop taking URSO, even for a month, my LFT numbers go up. You can have a long life with PSC (I was diagnosed in 1989, Dick just posted was diagnosed in 1984), but I would think taking care of your self would play a part.

Ian (52) PSC 89

I just joined. My husband was diagnosed with PSC in 2004 and has been in denial about it since and wont take his ursidol and when he drinks its all weekend but he doesn't drink for more than a month but when he

does he makes up for not. He hasn't passed a blood test for life ins since we have been married over 10 yrs. I am concerned and he seems oblivious to it like I am making this all up. He is 40 yrs old and has

always been on the tired side but before understanding PSC I just thought he was lazy with no ambition. Thank you for reading this, sometimes I just am frustrated.

-- Ian Cribb P.Eng. (6...

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Hi S. Komula,

Welcome to the group. We are sorry for your husband diagnosis and denial of such, but we are glad you found us. Since your husband is in denial there is not much we can do for your husband but pray (and pray we will). There are some of us with PSC that do not take URSO (it causes them side effects; increased itching, pain, upset stomach). Me if I stop taking URSO, even for a month, my LFT numbers go up. You can have a long life with PSC (I was diagnosed in 1989, Dick just posted was diagnosed in 1984), but I would think taking care of your self would play a part.

Ian (52) PSC 89

I just joined. My husband was diagnosed with PSC in 2004 and has been in denial about it since and wont take his ursidol and when he drinks its all weekend but he doesn't drink for more than a month but when he

does he makes up for not. He hasn't passed a blood test for life ins since we have been married over 10 yrs. I am concerned and he seems oblivious to it like I am making this all up. He is 40 yrs old and has

always been on the tired side but before understanding PSC I just thought he was lazy with no ambition. Thank you for reading this, sometimes I just am frustrated.

-- Ian Cribb P.Eng. (6...

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Hi! I'm glad you found us. Your concern is evident in your posting and I hope

your husband soon comes around and is able to face what is happening to you

both. (It's a misnomer that PSC only affects the patient. Anyone with PSC or

their families can tell you the disease affects us all.) It sounds like you've

tried talking with him about your concerns. Is there anyone else who you could

enlist, perhaps a religious leader or a close friend of his? I don't know how

PSC was explained to your husband, but you may want to reinforce that while it

is life-altering, it is not a death sentence. That he can still live and enjoy

his life. He probably should give up the drinking as soon as possible for liver

health and to prevent cholangiocarcinoma (although I'm not 100% sure there's a

link to cholangiocarcinoma) but also because if he ever does need a transplant,

he won't be eligible for the list if he is drinking.

In any case, please know that even if your husband is not ready to talk to us

about what is going on with him, we are here for you. You're a caregiver and

your also living life with PSC and that makes you more than welcome and a part

of the family so please continue to share with us, ask questions, whatever you

need. If your husband does want to join us, he's more than welcome at any time

and we'll be glad to answer whatever questions come up (at least the ones we can

answer!)

Hope tomorrow's an even better day!

Sandi in VA

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