Re: Scary question - weight?

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In a message dated 2/22/2005 11:16:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

aromaarmoi@... writes:

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> >the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> >just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

>

hmmm....well, uh...sometimes. but for some folks, getting rid of that weight

has been a struggle. it does take some work. you might want to read mary

shoman's book, The Thyroid Diet.

cindi

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In a message dated 2/22/2005 11:16:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

aromaarmoi@... writes:

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> >the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> >just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

>

hmmm....well, uh...sometimes. but for some folks, getting rid of that weight

has been a struggle. it does take some work. you might want to read mary

shoman's book, The Thyroid Diet.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/22/2005 11:16:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

aromaarmoi@... writes:

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> >the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> >just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

>

hmmm....well, uh...sometimes. but for some folks, getting rid of that weight

has been a struggle. it does take some work. you might want to read mary

shoman's book, The Thyroid Diet.

cindi

[Guest guest]

UGH.....that is one that I keep asking about,and it seems the general

consenus is,that it is harder to lose...and that if and when you do

begin to lose it...that we are left with this jelly belly as a

reminder for a long,long time......jeanne

>

> Entirely leaving aside the fact that getting properly medicated is

> so difficult, how many of you were able to lose the weight you

> wanted to or were able to maintain an acceptable weight once you

> were properly medicated?

>

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Friday

[Guest guest]

UGH.....that is one that I keep asking about,and it seems the general

consenus is,that it is harder to lose...and that if and when you do

begin to lose it...that we are left with this jelly belly as a

reminder for a long,long time......jeanne

>

> Entirely leaving aside the fact that getting properly medicated is

> so difficult, how many of you were able to lose the weight you

> wanted to or were able to maintain an acceptable weight once you

> were properly medicated?

>

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Friday

[Guest guest]

UGH.....that is one that I keep asking about,and it seems the general

consenus is,that it is harder to lose...and that if and when you do

begin to lose it...that we are left with this jelly belly as a

reminder for a long,long time......jeanne

>

> Entirely leaving aside the fact that getting properly medicated is

> so difficult, how many of you were able to lose the weight you

> wanted to or were able to maintain an acceptable weight once you

> were properly medicated?

>

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Friday

[Guest guest]

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

Friday:

I don't know if I am at my optimal doseage or not at this point(3

grs), but I have started losing some weight.

I have been eating fairly healthy for quite some time. (no white

flour, sugar, pasta, rice, etc.-without much results!!) My husband

is an Atkins believer, can't say that I completely agree with that.

However, I have cut my bad carbs considerably and with increased

Armour I have started loosing some #s!! Not alot, but it is starting

to come off!!

Only if I had had this knowledge 40 plus years ago, my life would

have been so different!!

[Guest guest]

Hmm, ok, good to hear. I'm a low-glycemic, whole foods kind of

person. I can't do hardcore Atkins because I like to body-build and

the carbs are too low on anything but maintenance. Then again, his

maintenance is low-glycemic, whole foods and he recommends 100 g of

carbs or more for atheletes. *chuckling*

I can handle that it may be 'harder' but I'll just scream if I have

to be stuck at my current weight for the rest of my life.

Thanks to both of you so far. Anyone else?

>

>

> > If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again

in

> > the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or

even

> > just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

>

> Friday:

>

> I don't know if I am at my optimal doseage or not at this point(3

> grs), but I have started losing some weight.

> I have been eating fairly healthy for quite some time. (no white

> flour, sugar, pasta, rice, etc.-without much results!!) My

husband

> is an Atkins believer, can't say that I completely agree with

that.

> However, I have cut my bad carbs considerably and with increased

> Armour I have started loosing some #s!! Not alot, but it is

starting

> to come off!!

> Only if I had had this knowledge 40 plus years ago, my life would

> have been so different!!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm, ok, good to hear. I'm a low-glycemic, whole foods kind of

person. I can't do hardcore Atkins because I like to body-build and

the carbs are too low on anything but maintenance. Then again, his

maintenance is low-glycemic, whole foods and he recommends 100 g of

carbs or more for atheletes. *chuckling*

I can handle that it may be 'harder' but I'll just scream if I have

to be stuck at my current weight for the rest of my life.

Thanks to both of you so far. Anyone else?

>

>

> > If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again

in

> > the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or

even

> > just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

>

> Friday:

>

> I don't know if I am at my optimal doseage or not at this point(3

> grs), but I have started losing some weight.

> I have been eating fairly healthy for quite some time. (no white

> flour, sugar, pasta, rice, etc.-without much results!!) My

husband

> is an Atkins believer, can't say that I completely agree with

that.

> However, I have cut my bad carbs considerably and with increased

> Armour I have started loosing some #s!! Not alot, but it is

starting

> to come off!!

> Only if I had had this knowledge 40 plus years ago, my life would

> have been so different!!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can handle that it may be 'harder' but I'll just scream if I have to be stuck

at my current weight for the rest of my life. Thanks to both of you so far.

Anyone else?

Hi Friday!

I am up to 4 grains of Thyroid-S and have been losing a pound a week. I was

very frustrated on Synthroid...it was like I wasn't on any meds at all. Some

weeks I would work out like crazy, eat healthy and gain 1 to 3 pounds!

Sue in Colorful Colorado

[Guest guest]

I can handle that it may be 'harder' but I'll just scream if I have to be stuck

at my current weight for the rest of my life. Thanks to both of you so far.

Anyone else?

Hi Friday!

I am up to 4 grains of Thyroid-S and have been losing a pound a week. I was

very frustrated on Synthroid...it was like I wasn't on any meds at all. Some

weeks I would work out like crazy, eat healthy and gain 1 to 3 pounds!

Sue in Colorful Colorado

[Guest guest]

I can handle that it may be 'harder' but I'll just scream if I have to be stuck

at my current weight for the rest of my life. Thanks to both of you so far.

Anyone else?

Hi Friday!

I am up to 4 grains of Thyroid-S and have been losing a pound a week. I was

very frustrated on Synthroid...it was like I wasn't on any meds at all. Some

weeks I would work out like crazy, eat healthy and gain 1 to 3 pounds!

Sue in Colorful Colorado

[Guest guest]

! Sue, how long did it take you to get up to 4 grains?--and did the

weight loss begin,after you got to 4??and have you been able to work

out consistently from the beginning of your diagnoses??-jeanne

> I am up to 4 grains of Thyroid-S and have been losing a pound a

week. I was very frustrated on Synthroid...it was like I wasn't on

any meds at all. Some weeks I would work out like crazy, eat healthy

and gain 1 to 3 pounds!

> Sue in Colorful Colorado

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

! Sue, how long did it take you to get up to 4 grains?--and did the

weight loss begin,after you got to 4??and have you been able to work

out consistently from the beginning of your diagnoses??-jeanne

> I am up to 4 grains of Thyroid-S and have been losing a pound a

week. I was very frustrated on Synthroid...it was like I wasn't on

any meds at all. Some weeks I would work out like crazy, eat healthy

and gain 1 to 3 pounds!

> Sue in Colorful Colorado

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

! Sue, how long did it take you to get up to 4 grains?--and did the

weight loss begin,after you got to 4??and have you been able to work

out consistently from the beginning of your diagnoses??-jeanne

> I am up to 4 grains of Thyroid-S and have been losing a pound a

week. I was very frustrated on Synthroid...it was like I wasn't on

any meds at all. Some weeks I would work out like crazy, eat healthy

and gain 1 to 3 pounds!

> Sue in Colorful Colorado

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't lost all the weight I need to, but I'm on my way. It wasn't until I

hit 3 1/2 grains of armour thyroid that I lost any weight. That started back

around the first week of Oct, 2004 (I started Armour in May 2004). So far, I've

lost about 30 lbs since Oct. I've not gained any back either, so the 1-2 lbs a

week was very nice, and I've managed to maintain that. I take Naturethroid now,

it's working well since I ran out of Armour. I also self medicate. I don't

depend on any dr to tell me how I feel anymore, as I figure I'm capable of

knowing when something is working or not. I refuse to be a slave to labs or a

dr who worships labs. I will be forever grateful for finding this group which

helped me to actually get my life back. I did a lot of praying & reading here

before I chose to self medicate. Dr's told me that I was 'normal' (labs) &

ignored my many symptoms, and sent me home to live in mysery. I don't stress

over weight issues anymore. I did a steady gain while being made to live hypo

for close to 2 yrs, and it's going to take time to get it off. I feel better

than I have in a many years. I have also learned that stressing over anything

doesn't help. That was the hardest thing to put into proper perspective since

the hyperT/Graves in 2001, and now hypoT.

My mom called me tonite, and told me several times how thankful she was that I

gave her a bottle of naturethroid. I've suspected her as being hypoT for quite

some time now and the Naturethroid is just doing wonders for her. (She took

Armour for a while, then decided that she didn't need it). lol. She'll tell you

a different story now. She sounds, and looks and feels better than she has in

years. She started off on 1 grain as I did, and it made all the difference in

the world to her, & she's now on 2 grains daily. (Mom took thyroid meds when I

was very young, and it was only Armour back in those days), till she quit. She

used to sit and complain about her job when we'd talk on the phone. (She had

this everybody is out to get me attitude) for many years now. It's actually

nice to talk to her now. It's like a completely different person. She also can

walk and not cry out in pain after working all day. My uncle saw my mom at her

job recently and told my aunt how good she looked and felt, and now my aunt is

wondering why she's only on $inthroid, gaining weight, and feeling not so great

when she's younger than my mom? go figure? :-)

SandyE~Houston

Scary question - weight?

Entirely leaving aside the fact that getting properly medicated is

so difficult, how many of you were able to lose the weight you

wanted to or were able to maintain an acceptable weight once you

were properly medicated?

If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

Thanks!

Friday

[Guest guest]

I haven't lost all the weight I need to, but I'm on my way. It wasn't until I

hit 3 1/2 grains of armour thyroid that I lost any weight. That started back

around the first week of Oct, 2004 (I started Armour in May 2004). So far, I've

lost about 30 lbs since Oct. I've not gained any back either, so the 1-2 lbs a

week was very nice, and I've managed to maintain that. I take Naturethroid now,

it's working well since I ran out of Armour. I also self medicate. I don't

depend on any dr to tell me how I feel anymore, as I figure I'm capable of

knowing when something is working or not. I refuse to be a slave to labs or a

dr who worships labs. I will be forever grateful for finding this group which

helped me to actually get my life back. I did a lot of praying & reading here

before I chose to self medicate. Dr's told me that I was 'normal' (labs) &

ignored my many symptoms, and sent me home to live in mysery. I don't stress

over weight issues anymore. I did a steady gain while being made to live hypo

for close to 2 yrs, and it's going to take time to get it off. I feel better

than I have in a many years. I have also learned that stressing over anything

doesn't help. That was the hardest thing to put into proper perspective since

the hyperT/Graves in 2001, and now hypoT.

My mom called me tonite, and told me several times how thankful she was that I

gave her a bottle of naturethroid. I've suspected her as being hypoT for quite

some time now and the Naturethroid is just doing wonders for her. (She took

Armour for a while, then decided that she didn't need it). lol. She'll tell you

a different story now. She sounds, and looks and feels better than she has in

years. She started off on 1 grain as I did, and it made all the difference in

the world to her, & she's now on 2 grains daily. (Mom took thyroid meds when I

was very young, and it was only Armour back in those days), till she quit. She

used to sit and complain about her job when we'd talk on the phone. (She had

this everybody is out to get me attitude) for many years now. It's actually

nice to talk to her now. It's like a completely different person. She also can

walk and not cry out in pain after working all day. My uncle saw my mom at her

job recently and told my aunt how good she looked and felt, and now my aunt is

wondering why she's only on $inthroid, gaining weight, and feeling not so great

when she's younger than my mom? go figure? :-)

SandyE~Houston

Scary question - weight?

Entirely leaving aside the fact that getting properly medicated is

so difficult, how many of you were able to lose the weight you

wanted to or were able to maintain an acceptable weight once you

were properly medicated?

If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

Thanks!

Friday

[Guest guest]

I haven't lost all the weight I need to, but I'm on my way. It wasn't until I

hit 3 1/2 grains of armour thyroid that I lost any weight. That started back

around the first week of Oct, 2004 (I started Armour in May 2004). So far, I've

lost about 30 lbs since Oct. I've not gained any back either, so the 1-2 lbs a

week was very nice, and I've managed to maintain that. I take Naturethroid now,

it's working well since I ran out of Armour. I also self medicate. I don't

depend on any dr to tell me how I feel anymore, as I figure I'm capable of

knowing when something is working or not. I refuse to be a slave to labs or a

dr who worships labs. I will be forever grateful for finding this group which

helped me to actually get my life back. I did a lot of praying & reading here

before I chose to self medicate. Dr's told me that I was 'normal' (labs) &

ignored my many symptoms, and sent me home to live in mysery. I don't stress

over weight issues anymore. I did a steady gain while being made to live hypo

for close to 2 yrs, and it's going to take time to get it off. I feel better

than I have in a many years. I have also learned that stressing over anything

doesn't help. That was the hardest thing to put into proper perspective since

the hyperT/Graves in 2001, and now hypoT.

My mom called me tonite, and told me several times how thankful she was that I

gave her a bottle of naturethroid. I've suspected her as being hypoT for quite

some time now and the Naturethroid is just doing wonders for her. (She took

Armour for a while, then decided that she didn't need it). lol. She'll tell you

a different story now. She sounds, and looks and feels better than she has in

years. She started off on 1 grain as I did, and it made all the difference in

the world to her, & she's now on 2 grains daily. (Mom took thyroid meds when I

was very young, and it was only Armour back in those days), till she quit. She

used to sit and complain about her job when we'd talk on the phone. (She had

this everybody is out to get me attitude) for many years now. It's actually

nice to talk to her now. It's like a completely different person. She also can

walk and not cry out in pain after working all day. My uncle saw my mom at her

job recently and told my aunt how good she looked and felt, and now my aunt is

wondering why she's only on $inthroid, gaining weight, and feeling not so great

when she's younger than my mom? go figure? :-)

SandyE~Houston

Scary question - weight?

Entirely leaving aside the fact that getting properly medicated is

so difficult, how many of you were able to lose the weight you

wanted to or were able to maintain an acceptable weight once you

were properly medicated?

If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

Thanks!

Friday

[Guest guest]

It turns around, Friday - it doesn't happen overnight, but it

happens.

> >

> >

> > > If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal'

again

> in

> > > the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or

> even

> > > just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

> >

> > Friday:

> >

> > I don't know if I am at my optimal doseage or not at this point

(3

> > grs), but I have started losing some weight.

> > I have been eating fairly healthy for quite some time. (no white

> > flour, sugar, pasta, rice, etc.-without much results!!) My

> husband

> > is an Atkins believer, can't say that I completely agree with

> that.

> > However, I have cut my bad carbs considerably and with increased

> > Armour I have started loosing some #s!! Not alot, but it is

> starting

> > to come off!!

> > Only if I had had this knowledge 40 plus years ago, my life

would

> > have been so different!!

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It turns around, Friday - it doesn't happen overnight, but it

happens.

> >

> >

> > > If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal'

again

> in

> > > the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or

> even

> > > just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

> >

> > Friday:

> >

> > I don't know if I am at my optimal doseage or not at this point

(3

> > grs), but I have started losing some weight.

> > I have been eating fairly healthy for quite some time. (no white

> > flour, sugar, pasta, rice, etc.-without much results!!) My

> husband

> > is an Atkins believer, can't say that I completely agree with

> that.

> > However, I have cut my bad carbs considerably and with increased

> > Armour I have started loosing some #s!! Not alot, but it is

> starting

> > to come off!!

> > Only if I had had this knowledge 40 plus years ago, my life

would

> > have been so different!!

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It turns around, Friday - it doesn't happen overnight, but it

happens.

> >

> >

> > > If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal'

again

> in

> > > the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or

> even

> > > just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

> >

> > Friday:

> >

> > I don't know if I am at my optimal doseage or not at this point

(3

> > grs), but I have started losing some weight.

> > I have been eating fairly healthy for quite some time. (no white

> > flour, sugar, pasta, rice, etc.-without much results!!) My

> husband

> > is an Atkins believer, can't say that I completely agree with

> that.

> > However, I have cut my bad carbs considerably and with increased

> > Armour I have started loosing some #s!! Not alot, but it is

> starting

> > to come off!!

> > Only if I had had this knowledge 40 plus years ago, my life

would

> > have been so different!!

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

_______________________

This is a very complicated question. I have seen a friend drop over

50 lbs once she was put on a good dose of Armour. I lost maybe 7

pounds once I got well adjusted. I am not very overweight.

But, there have been some things written by doctors and others that

have said that if hypothyroidism has been a long standing thing,

some people have permanently slowed metabolisms. The body has

adapted to using less energy and conserving and so it is then very

difficult to change the mtabolic rate to a faster one. Also, many

hypos have developed other endocrine problems along with their

hypothyroidism that can make it difficult to loose weight.

But, just from my own experience, I think over time, if you can

first get thyroid high enough and adjusted to your needs and not

some test, and then can really work on improving nutrition, you can

go a long way toward having a normal weight.

The other thing that I want to mantion is that if you have been hypo

a long time, polysacharrides build up in your cells. This causes you

to swell up and retain water. These polysacharides take quite some

time to go way. They are a waste product that cannot be removed when

the metabolic rate is too slow. I have found that over the years I

have built up a lot of these and it has taken over two years and I

still have some poof left. I see it mostly in my face and lower

legs. But, about 80% of it is gone. So, this is a slow process

getting rid of these.

Tish

[Guest guest]

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

_______________________

This is a very complicated question. I have seen a friend drop over

50 lbs once she was put on a good dose of Armour. I lost maybe 7

pounds once I got well adjusted. I am not very overweight.

But, there have been some things written by doctors and others that

have said that if hypothyroidism has been a long standing thing,

some people have permanently slowed metabolisms. The body has

adapted to using less energy and conserving and so it is then very

difficult to change the mtabolic rate to a faster one. Also, many

hypos have developed other endocrine problems along with their

hypothyroidism that can make it difficult to loose weight.

But, just from my own experience, I think over time, if you can

first get thyroid high enough and adjusted to your needs and not

some test, and then can really work on improving nutrition, you can

go a long way toward having a normal weight.

The other thing that I want to mantion is that if you have been hypo

a long time, polysacharrides build up in your cells. This causes you

to swell up and retain water. These polysacharides take quite some

time to go way. They are a waste product that cannot be removed when

the metabolic rate is too slow. I have found that over the years I

have built up a lot of these and it has taken over two years and I

still have some poof left. I see it mostly in my face and lower

legs. But, about 80% of it is gone. So, this is a slow process

getting rid of these.

Tish

[Guest guest]

> If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal' again in

> the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts or even

> just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

_______________________

This is a very complicated question. I have seen a friend drop over

50 lbs once she was put on a good dose of Armour. I lost maybe 7

pounds once I got well adjusted. I am not very overweight.

But, there have been some things written by doctors and others that

have said that if hypothyroidism has been a long standing thing,

some people have permanently slowed metabolisms. The body has

adapted to using less energy and conserving and so it is then very

difficult to change the mtabolic rate to a faster one. Also, many

hypos have developed other endocrine problems along with their

hypothyroidism that can make it difficult to loose weight.

But, just from my own experience, I think over time, if you can

first get thyroid high enough and adjusted to your needs and not

some test, and then can really work on improving nutrition, you can

go a long way toward having a normal weight.

The other thing that I want to mantion is that if you have been hypo

a long time, polysacharrides build up in your cells. This causes you

to swell up and retain water. These polysacharides take quite some

time to go way. They are a waste product that cannot be removed when

the metabolic rate is too slow. I have found that over the years I

have built up a lot of these and it has taken over two years and I

still have some poof left. I see it mostly in my face and lower

legs. But, about 80% of it is gone. So, this is a slow process

getting rid of these.

Tish

[Guest guest]

Hon, you didn't just 'turn around'. You're spinning, laughing and

rolling on the grass. Looks good on you though.

> > >

> > >

> > > > If you're properly medicated, does that make you 'normal'

> again

> > in

> > > > the metabolism department? Will normal weight-loss efforts

or

> > even

> > > > just healthy eating produce a naturally healthy weight?

> > >

> > > Friday:

> > >

> > > I don't know if I am at my optimal doseage or not at this point

> (3

> > > grs), but I have started losing some weight.

> > > I have been eating fairly healthy for quite some time. (no

white

> > > flour, sugar, pasta, rice, etc.-without much results!!) My

> > husband

> > > is an Atkins believer, can't say that I completely agree with

> > that.

> > > However, I have cut my bad carbs considerably and with

increased

> > > Armour I have started loosing some #s!! Not alot, but it is

> > starting

> > > to come off!!

> > > Only if I had had this knowledge 40 plus years ago, my life

> would

> > > have been so different!!

> > >

> > >