Re: Tish--night sweats and fatigue

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 2:34:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> I have also wondered if it was simply the after effect of

> the MVP--that valve was VERY stressed by the climb...as was my

> oxygen capabilities.)

>

the mere reading about " a climb " was stressful to me.

cindi

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 5:21:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

saltillo@... writes:

> I had this idea that everything he did was too much

> effort, like it was for me

Tish,

I've had the same reaction. My husband is ALWAYS doing something...out

chipping wood for hours, walking about in the woods finding wood to

chip....running

numerous errands...etc. and etc.

I told him just last weekend that it made me tired to think of all that he

accomplishes in one day. but i thank the Lord that I have him. cause lord

knows if it wasn't for him, i would not have made it.

cindi

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 5:21:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

saltillo@... writes:

> I had this idea that everything he did was too much

> effort, like it was for me

Tish,

I've had the same reaction. My husband is ALWAYS doing something...out

chipping wood for hours, walking about in the woods finding wood to

chip....running

numerous errands...etc. and etc.

I told him just last weekend that it made me tired to think of all that he

accomplishes in one day. but i thank the Lord that I have him. cause lord

knows if it wasn't for him, i would not have made it.

cindi

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 5:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

karenk8@... writes:

> So does this mean even after I reach my optimal dose I'm still gonna

> be a slug? I use to be able to spend all day outside working in the

> yard, now after an hour I'm pooped.

>

same here. but i can stay out there a few hours if i pace myself and take

lots of iced tea breaks.

cindi

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 5:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

karenk8@... writes:

> So does this mean even after I reach my optimal dose I'm still gonna

> be a slug? I use to be able to spend all day outside working in the

> yard, now after an hour I'm pooped.

>

same here. but i can stay out there a few hours if i pace myself and take

lots of iced tea breaks.

cindi

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 5:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

karenk8@... writes:

> So does this mean even after I reach my optimal dose I'm still gonna

> be a slug? I use to be able to spend all day outside working in the

> yard, now after an hour I'm pooped.

>

same here. but i can stay out there a few hours if i pace myself and take

lots of iced tea breaks.

cindi

March 11, 2005

Janie I think a HUGE part of the reason even on optimal Armour that we don't

recover well is the BONE bad shape we all get in from being without Armour for

so long. I sincerely doubt I will ever regain the muscle tone and stamina I once

had, cause believe it or not, I am too old now to reflex the muscles that have

been unused for so long. Now a SLOW build to that I think would help, but a one

day superwoman jaunt I think I would die! LOL

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and

cackling, telling me, " You're next. " They stopped after I started doing the

same thing to them at funerals

March 11, 2005

Janie I think a HUGE part of the reason even on optimal Armour that we don't

recover well is the BONE bad shape we all get in from being without Armour for

so long. I sincerely doubt I will ever regain the muscle tone and stamina I once

had, cause believe it or not, I am too old now to reflex the muscles that have

been unused for so long. Now a SLOW build to that I think would help, but a one

day superwoman jaunt I think I would die! LOL

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and

cackling, telling me, " You're next. " They stopped after I started doing the

same thing to them at funerals

March 11, 2005

Janie I think a HUGE part of the reason even on optimal Armour that we don't

recover well is the BONE bad shape we all get in from being without Armour for

so long. I sincerely doubt I will ever regain the muscle tone and stamina I once

had, cause believe it or not, I am too old now to reflex the muscles that have

been unused for so long. Now a SLOW build to that I think would help, but a one

day superwoman jaunt I think I would die! LOL

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and

cackling, telling me, " You're next. " They stopped after I started doing the

same thing to them at funerals

March 11, 2005

> the mere reading about " a climb " was stressful to me.

> cindi

You are so funny!!

March 11, 2005

would I need to add

> more Armour, or would I need to add more adrenal support, even

> though I have never needed the latter?

_____________________

This is a good question that I have grappled with for a while and I

don't know the answer. I tried a several times in the last year to

hike and I am such a weenie and haven't been able to go very far.

From some bad experiences, I started to dose with extra IsoCort

right before and along the way if needed and if I guessed right

about how much I needed, then the next day, I didn't crash or

basically have to lay around a lot to recover. But, the IsoCort

never gave me the stamina to go for much of a hike, not like normal

other people. And, I would have to rest here and there along the

way. I was not breathless, but more I would start to feel real bad

and just loose energy. If it was hot, I felt like I would die. I did

try once or maybe twice to also dose with a little extra thyroid at

the same time as the IsoCort for a walk to see if that was what I

needed. But, it seemed to just stress me more, though it gave me a

little more energy.

I have wondered what happens with thyroid levels when you hike. Do

they plummet or is it a more gradual dropping thing? I wish I knew.

Since I have been tapering off the IsoCort, I am finding that my

stamina is really improving. I did not expect this. Next week we

have reletives comming and they are planning on hiking. I am afraid

I will look like such an idiot when I have to say half way up some

long hill, with my face beet red " Ok folks, this is it for me. I'll

just sit and wait here for your return. " (My face always turns red

when I've overdone. The red blotch of death.)

I also wonder if all hypothyroid people are limited some in their

capacity for activity. Is this forever? Do hypos have to meter out

their daily activities so they don't pass a certain point? There are

athlets that are hypo. Do they suffer?

Tish

March 11, 2005

> > the mere reading about " a climb " was stressful to me.

> > cindi

______________

You know this is funny because when my adrenals were really bad,

just watching my husband do housework or wash the dishes made me

feel tired. I had this idea that everything he did was too much

effort, like it was for me. I could just feel myself tighten up and

become fatigued and miserable thinking about things that require

effort.

Tish

March 11, 2005

> > the mere reading about " a climb " was stressful to me.

> > cindi

______________

You know this is funny because when my adrenals were really bad,

just watching my husband do housework or wash the dishes made me

feel tired. I had this idea that everything he did was too much

effort, like it was for me. I could just feel myself tighten up and

become fatigued and miserable thinking about things that require

effort.

Tish

March 11, 2005

> > the mere reading about " a climb " was stressful to me.

> > cindi

______________

You know this is funny because when my adrenals were really bad,

just watching my husband do housework or wash the dishes made me

feel tired. I had this idea that everything he did was too much

effort, like it was for me. I could just feel myself tighten up and

become fatigued and miserable thinking about things that require

effort.

Tish

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 7:41:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> .Is it possible that a non-diseased person will produce

> MORE T3 during a strenuous activity? And if so, might we also need

> more of the Armour when we do something strenuous, just as we need

> more during the winter?

>

I don't think there's any doubt that a hypo person reacts differently.

I think hypo is a altered metabolic state no matter how much armour you

take...and the body reacts different than other folks.

Cindi

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 7:41:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> .Is it possible that a non-diseased person will produce

> MORE T3 during a strenuous activity? And if so, might we also need

> more of the Armour when we do something strenuous, just as we need

> more during the winter?

>

I don't think there's any doubt that a hypo person reacts differently.

I think hypo is a altered metabolic state no matter how much armour you

take...and the body reacts different than other folks.

Cindi

March 11, 2005

In a message dated 3/11/2005 7:41:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> .Is it possible that a non-diseased person will produce

> MORE T3 during a strenuous activity? And if so, might we also need

> more of the Armour when we do something strenuous, just as we need

> more during the winter?

>

I don't think there's any doubt that a hypo person reacts differently.

I think hypo is a altered metabolic state no matter how much armour you

take...and the body reacts different than other folks.

Cindi

March 11, 2005

So does this mean even after I reach my optimal dose I'm still gonna

be a slug? I use to be able to spend all day outside working in the

yard, now after an hour I'm pooped.

kk

>

> would I need to add

> > more Armour, or would I need to add more adrenal support, even

> > though I have never needed the latter?

> _____________________

> This is a good question that I have grappled with for a while and I

> don't know the answer. I tried a several times in the last year to

> hike and I am such a weenie and haven't been able to go very far.

> From some bad experiences, I started to dose with extra IsoCort

> right before and along the way if needed and if I guessed right

> about how much I needed, then the next day, I didn't crash or

> basically have to lay around a lot to recover. But, the IsoCort

> never gave me the stamina to go for much of a hike, not like normal

> other people. And, I would have to rest here and there along the

> way. I was not breathless, but more I would start to feel real bad

> and just loose energy. If it was hot, I felt like I would die. I

did

> try once or maybe twice to also dose with a little extra thyroid at

> the same time as the IsoCort for a walk to see if that was what I

> needed. But, it seemed to just stress me more, though it gave me a

> little more energy.

>

> I have wondered what happens with thyroid levels when you hike. Do

> they plummet or is it a more gradual dropping thing? I wish I knew.

> Since I have been tapering off the IsoCort, I am finding that my

> stamina is really improving. I did not expect this. Next week we

> have reletives comming and they are planning on hiking. I am afraid

> I will look like such an idiot when I have to say half way up some

> long hill, with my face beet red " Ok folks, this is it for me. I'll

> just sit and wait here for your return. " (My face always turns red

> when I've overdone. The red blotch of death.)

>

> I also wonder if all hypothyroid people are limited some in their

> capacity for activity. Is this forever? Do hypos have to meter out

> their daily activities so they don't pass a certain point? There

are

> athlets that are hypo. Do they suffer?

>

> Tish

March 11, 2005