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In a message dated 3/2/2005 12:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

oceangypsey@... writes:

> " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

> increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when I

> go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got really

> tired of them leaving me to die......

it continues to amaze me why there is this lack of knowledge about thryoid

disease. they'll give us all sorts of dangerous drugs with terrible side

effects but refuse to give us enough thyroid hormone to get well. i hope all of

them have immediate complete thyroid failure and no meds. that's mean - but i'm

so dang tired of it i'm starting to feel pretty mean about it.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/2/2005 12:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

oceangypsey@... writes:

> " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

> increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when I

> go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got really

> tired of them leaving me to die......

it continues to amaze me why there is this lack of knowledge about thryoid

disease. they'll give us all sorts of dangerous drugs with terrible side

effects but refuse to give us enough thyroid hormone to get well. i hope all of

them have immediate complete thyroid failure and no meds. that's mean - but i'm

so dang tired of it i'm starting to feel pretty mean about it.

cindi

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In a message dated 3/2/2005 1:16:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

saltillo@... writes:

> They would have you on statins,

> anditdepressives and God knows what else rather than just letting

> you do the cheapest and most effective thing - increase your

> thryoid.

>

don't forget pain killers...and antibotics for those frequent infections and

inhalers for those with chest symptoms and blood pressure medication for those

who have developed high blood pressure...and the list goes on and on....

but sometimes i wonder...do the docs know this....or are the drug companies

putting out some really bad info...

cindi

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In a message dated 3/2/2005 1:16:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

saltillo@... writes:

> They would have you on statins,

> anditdepressives and God knows what else rather than just letting

> you do the cheapest and most effective thing - increase your

> thryoid.

>

don't forget pain killers...and antibotics for those frequent infections and

inhalers for those with chest symptoms and blood pressure medication for those

who have developed high blood pressure...and the list goes on and on....

but sometimes i wonder...do the docs know this....or are the drug companies

putting out some really bad info...

cindi

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Jeanne,

My doc spent one whole day deciding I was right that I shouldn't up

my Armour as much as he originally thought (he wanted to increase 60

mg) - so he gave me an Rx for enough 15mg for only 14 days, then

another Rx for 90 mg after that - but the pharmacy wouldn't fill

both at the same time - guess they thought I'd overdose! I hope

they'll refill the 60mg one that I need to take with the 15! Gawd,

there are just idiots everywhere, aren't there? LOL

Joyce

>

> Well....after five phone messages in to the endos' office.over a

> period of three weeks...I had been calling and calling about

> increasing my Armour....no return phone call...well,yesterday, I

had

> finally had it...because my rx had run out for the current 2

grains

> they prescribed...so I called again ,with a little more attitude

in

> my voice...and so late last eve an asst. calls me,and wants to

know

> the reason for my cla....on big DUH!!!!!---so again i tell

her....and

> after three phone calls back,she finally had the doc refill my

> scrip....but ONLY for the same 2 grains.....and now she tells me

that

> they are referring me to another " more specialized " endo at Ohio

> State....because there are SOME people who have other problems

> besides " just simple thyroid " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

> increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when I

> go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got

really

> tired of them leaving me to die......FINALLY, there is some lite

at

> the end of the tunnel....heart palps nearly gone..shortness of

breath

> gone....woo..hoo!!!---I believe I may be starting to heal...jeanne

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I believe I may be starting to heal...jeanne

Does this fit into the 'Stupid Doctor " category? They are telling

you you have some other terrible things wrong rather than just

allowing you to raise your dose. They would have you on statins,

anditdepressives and God knows what else rather than just letting

you do the cheapest and most effective thing - increase your

thryoid.

Tish

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I believe I may be starting to heal...jeanne

Does this fit into the 'Stupid Doctor " category? They are telling

you you have some other terrible things wrong rather than just

allowing you to raise your dose. They would have you on statins,

anditdepressives and God knows what else rather than just letting

you do the cheapest and most effective thing - increase your

thryoid.

Tish

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I believe I may be starting to heal...jeanne

Does this fit into the 'Stupid Doctor " category? They are telling

you you have some other terrible things wrong rather than just

allowing you to raise your dose. They would have you on statins,

anditdepressives and God knows what else rather than just letting

you do the cheapest and most effective thing - increase your

thryoid.

Tish

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jeanne oceangypsey@...> wrote:

Well....after five phone messages in to the endos' office.over a

period of three weeks...I had been calling and calling about

increasing my Armour....no return phone call...well,yesterday, I had

finally had it...because my rx had run out for the current 2 grains

they prescribed...so I called again ,with a little more attitude in

my voice...and so late last eve an asst. calls me,and wants to know

the reason for my cla....on big DUH!!!!!---so again i tell her....and

after three phone calls back,she finally had the doc refill my

scrip....but ONLY for the same 2 grains.....and now she tells me that

they are referring me to another " more specialized " endo at Ohio

State....because there are SOME people who have other problems

besides " just simple thyroid " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when I

go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got really

tired of them leaving me to die......FINALLY, there is some lite at

the end of the tunnel....heart palps nearly gone..shortness of breath

gone....woo..hoo!!!---I believe I may be starting to heal...jeanne

Way to go jeanne!! Sometimes I felt like telling the docs to stick it in their

ear.

I know about the palps. Boy when my thyroid is going downhill, palps are my

first indicator that I need more medicine.

That is what I have right now. They will be going away when I get my ft4 to the

upper third of the range.

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jeanne oceangypsey@...> wrote:

Well....after five phone messages in to the endos' office.over a

period of three weeks...I had been calling and calling about

increasing my Armour....no return phone call...well,yesterday, I had

finally had it...because my rx had run out for the current 2 grains

they prescribed...so I called again ,with a little more attitude in

my voice...and so late last eve an asst. calls me,and wants to know

the reason for my cla....on big DUH!!!!!---so again i tell her....and

after three phone calls back,she finally had the doc refill my

scrip....but ONLY for the same 2 grains.....and now she tells me that

they are referring me to another " more specialized " endo at Ohio

State....because there are SOME people who have other problems

besides " just simple thyroid " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when I

go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got really

tired of them leaving me to die......FINALLY, there is some lite at

the end of the tunnel....heart palps nearly gone..shortness of breath

gone....woo..hoo!!!---I believe I may be starting to heal...jeanne

Way to go jeanne!! Sometimes I felt like telling the docs to stick it in their

ear.

I know about the palps. Boy when my thyroid is going downhill, palps are my

first indicator that I need more medicine.

That is what I have right now. They will be going away when I get my ft4 to the

upper third of the range.

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It amazes me every time I get a prescription to see the side-effects

and the " Call your doctor immediately if... " I noticed the Armour

says " No common side effects. " Period. Then it describes the hyper &

hypoT symptoms and says those will only happen if your dose is too

high or too low.....How simple is that?

But it's " bad " for us to take an amount that makes us feel better?

" I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more! "

Joyce

> In a message dated 3/2/2005 12:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> oceangypsey@y... writes:

>

> > " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

> > increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when

I

> > go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got

really

> > tired of them leaving me to die......

>

> it continues to amaze me why there is this lack of knowledge about

thryoid

> disease. they'll give us all sorts of dangerous drugs with

terrible side

> effects but refuse to give us enough thyroid hormone to get well.

i hope all of

> them have immediate complete thyroid failure and no meds. that's

mean - but i'm

> so dang tired of it i'm starting to feel pretty mean about it.

> cindi

>

>

>

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It amazes me every time I get a prescription to see the side-effects

and the " Call your doctor immediately if... " I noticed the Armour

says " No common side effects. " Period. Then it describes the hyper &

hypoT symptoms and says those will only happen if your dose is too

high or too low.....How simple is that?

But it's " bad " for us to take an amount that makes us feel better?

" I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more! "

Joyce

> In a message dated 3/2/2005 12:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> oceangypsey@y... writes:

>

> > " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

> > increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when

I

> > go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got

really

> > tired of them leaving me to die......

>

> it continues to amaze me why there is this lack of knowledge about

thryoid

> disease. they'll give us all sorts of dangerous drugs with

terrible side

> effects but refuse to give us enough thyroid hormone to get well.

i hope all of

> them have immediate complete thyroid failure and no meds. that's

mean - but i'm

> so dang tired of it i'm starting to feel pretty mean about it.

> cindi

>

>

>

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It amazes me every time I get a prescription to see the side-effects

and the " Call your doctor immediately if... " I noticed the Armour

says " No common side effects. " Period. Then it describes the hyper &

hypoT symptoms and says those will only happen if your dose is too

high or too low.....How simple is that?

But it's " bad " for us to take an amount that makes us feel better?

" I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more! "

Joyce

> In a message dated 3/2/2005 12:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> oceangypsey@y... writes:

>

> > " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

> > increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when

I

> > go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got

really

> > tired of them leaving me to die......

>

> it continues to amaze me why there is this lack of knowledge about

thryoid

> disease. they'll give us all sorts of dangerous drugs with

terrible side

> effects but refuse to give us enough thyroid hormone to get well.

i hope all of

> them have immediate complete thyroid failure and no meds. that's

mean - but i'm

> so dang tired of it i'm starting to feel pretty mean about it.

> cindi

>

>

>

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--- yep!---you got it baby!---could not have said it better

myself....as I have said before, I know I would have better luck at

the local vet....jeanne

>

> I believe I may be starting to heal...jeanne

>

> Does this fit into the 'Stupid Doctor " category? They are telling

> you you have some other terrible things wrong rather than just

> allowing you to raise your dose. They would have you on statins,

> anditdepressives and God knows what else rather than just letting

> you do the cheapest and most effective thing - increase your

> thryoid.

>

> Tish

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--- yep!---you got it baby!---could not have said it better

myself....as I have said before, I know I would have better luck at

the local vet....jeanne

>

> I believe I may be starting to heal...jeanne

>

> Does this fit into the 'Stupid Doctor " category? They are telling

> you you have some other terrible things wrong rather than just

> allowing you to raise your dose. They would have you on statins,

> anditdepressives and God knows what else rather than just letting

> you do the cheapest and most effective thing - increase your

> thryoid.

>

> Tish

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--- ,

:lmao LMAOlmao--------I MEAN LITERALLY LMAO---(oh i wish I really

could do that....I could probably lose about 10 lbs that way)--no not

mean Cindi.....consider it KARMA....heehee--jeanne

>

> > " --and that NO I can definetely NOT

> > increase my meds......well, I have a surprise for them.....when I

> > go ....I am currently taking 31/2 grains......of my own....got

really

> > tired of them leaving me to die......

>

> it continues to amaze me why there is this lack of knowledge about

thryoid

> disease. they'll give us all sorts of dangerous drugs with

terrible side

> effects but refuse to give us enough thyroid hormone to get well.

i hope all of

> them have immediate complete thyroid failure and no meds. that's

mean - but i'm

> so dang tired of it i'm starting to feel pretty mean about it.

> cindi

>

>

>

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