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In a message dated 3/17/2005 4:37:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gnattygrl@... writes:

> I'm thinking I should stay at my current dose and check again in 4

> or 5 weeks when I'm not sick preferably at the same time in my cycle

> as the fist test... Does that sound reasonable?

>

>

I'm thinking ya should not pay so much attention to the labs if you're still

feeling hypo.

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I'm curious, this doesn't look like normal Ft3 test ranges. where are

you located? I'm with Cindi on this. If you're not feeling well,

then it may be time for a bump up in meds. I started having this achy

feeling in my left upper arm today. That's also an idicator that I

need to up my meds. That and the carpal tunnel is bothering me again

somewhat. I raised 1/2 grain. This usually helps me see a big

difference.

The generic thyroid didn't work well for me. I had to take too much

to get the same results I got with Armour.

SandyE~Houston

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:26:09 -0000

gnattygrl@... wrote:

>

> I'm wondering if being sick could explain these results?

>

> Feb 16: (125mcgs T4, 7.5 mcgs T3)

>

> TSH 0.03

> FT4 18 (10-20)

> FT3 4.8 (2.6-5.7)

>

> March 14 (3grains generic thyroid)

> TSH .01

> FT4 16

> FT3 5.7

>

> I don't feel great though; I felt better in February; however, I'm

> also sick. I have a horrible cold and my throat is really raw. The

> doc told me to stay home until Monday. He thinks being sick (I was

> onto day 3 of the cold when I had the blood drawn) could have effect

> these numbers and I may not really 'be there'.

>

> ly I've felt hypo for a few days - but then again, I'm sick.

> My hair was falling out in clumps this morning and yesterday, and

> I'm feeling 'blah', aside from the cold. I'm also due for TOM on

> Saturday.

>

>

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I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

> >

> > I'm wondering if being sick could explain these results?

> >

> > Feb 16: (125mcgs T4, 7.5 mcgs T3)

> >

> > TSH 0.03

> > FT4 18 (10-20)

> > FT3 4.8 (2.6-5.7)

> >

> > March 14 (3grains generic thyroid)

> > TSH .01

> > FT4 16

> > FT3 5.7

> >

> > I don't feel great though; I felt better in February; however,

I'm

> > also sick. I have a horrible cold and my throat is really raw.

The

> > doc told me to stay home until Monday. He thinks being sick (I

was

> > onto day 3 of the cold when I had the blood drawn) could have

effect

> > these numbers and I may not really 'be there'.

> >

> > ly I've felt hypo for a few days - but then again, I'm

sick.

> > My hair was falling out in clumps this morning and yesterday,

and

> > I'm feeling 'blah', aside from the cold. I'm also due for TOM

on

> > Saturday.

> >

> >

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I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

> >

> > I'm wondering if being sick could explain these results?

> >

> > Feb 16: (125mcgs T4, 7.5 mcgs T3)

> >

> > TSH 0.03

> > FT4 18 (10-20)

> > FT3 4.8 (2.6-5.7)

> >

> > March 14 (3grains generic thyroid)

> > TSH .01

> > FT4 16

> > FT3 5.7

> >

> > I don't feel great though; I felt better in February; however,

I'm

> > also sick. I have a horrible cold and my throat is really raw.

The

> > doc told me to stay home until Monday. He thinks being sick (I

was

> > onto day 3 of the cold when I had the blood drawn) could have

effect

> > these numbers and I may not really 'be there'.

> >

> > ly I've felt hypo for a few days - but then again, I'm

sick.

> > My hair was falling out in clumps this morning and yesterday,

and

> > I'm feeling 'blah', aside from the cold. I'm also due for TOM

on

> > Saturday.

> >

> >

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> I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just like

the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one way to

say a number.

> > >

> > > I'm wondering if being sick could explain these results?

> > >

> > > Feb 16: (125mcgs T4, 7.5 mcgs T3)

> > >

> > > TSH 0.03

> > > FT4 18 (10-20)

> > > FT3 4.8 (2.6-5.7)

> > >

> > > March 14 (3grains generic thyroid)

> > > TSH .01

> > > FT4 16

> > > FT3 5.7

> > >

> > > I don't feel great though; I felt better in February; however,

> I'm

> > > also sick. I have a horrible cold and my throat is really

raw.

> The

> > > doc told me to stay home until Monday. He thinks being sick (I

> was

> > > onto day 3 of the cold when I had the blood drawn) could have

> effect

> > > these numbers and I may not really 'be there'.

> > >

> > > ly I've felt hypo for a few days - but then again, I'm

> sick.

> > > My hair was falling out in clumps this morning and yesterday,

> and

> > > I'm feeling 'blah', aside from the cold. I'm also due for TOM

> on

> > > Saturday.

> > >

> > >

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> I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just like

the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one way to

say a number.

> > >

> > > I'm wondering if being sick could explain these results?

> > >

> > > Feb 16: (125mcgs T4, 7.5 mcgs T3)

> > >

> > > TSH 0.03

> > > FT4 18 (10-20)

> > > FT3 4.8 (2.6-5.7)

> > >

> > > March 14 (3grains generic thyroid)

> > > TSH .01

> > > FT4 16

> > > FT3 5.7

> > >

> > > I don't feel great though; I felt better in February; however,

> I'm

> > > also sick. I have a horrible cold and my throat is really

raw.

> The

> > > doc told me to stay home until Monday. He thinks being sick (I

> was

> > > onto day 3 of the cold when I had the blood drawn) could have

> effect

> > > these numbers and I may not really 'be there'.

> > >

> > > ly I've felt hypo for a few days - but then again, I'm

> sick.

> > > My hair was falling out in clumps this morning and yesterday,

> and

> > > I'm feeling 'blah', aside from the cold. I'm also due for TOM

> on

> > > Saturday.

> > >

> > >

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Do you feel hyper?

gnattygrl@... wrote:

I'm wondering if being sick could explain these results?

Feb 16: (125mcgs T4, 7.5 mcgs T3)

TSH 0.03

FT4 18 (10-20)

FT3 4.8 (2.6-5.7)

March 14 (3grains generic thyroid)

TSH .01

FT4 16

FT3 5.7

I don't feel great though; I felt better in February; however, I'm

also sick. I have a horrible cold and my throat is really raw. The

doc told me to stay home until Monday. He thinks being sick (I was

onto day 3 of the cold when I had the blood drawn) could have effect

these numbers and I may not really 'be there'.

ly I've felt hypo for a few days - but then again, I'm sick.

My hair was falling out in clumps this morning and yesterday, and

I'm feeling 'blah', aside from the cold. I'm also due for TOM on

Saturday.

I'm thinking I should stay at my current dose and check again in 4

or 5 weeks when I'm not sick preferably at the same time in my cycle

as the fist test... Does that sound reasonable?

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> > I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

___________________

> The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just like

> the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one way to

> say a number.

>

>

>

___________________________

The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada and

almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard International)

In SI the unit of " amount of substance " is the MOLE and this unit is

used rather than mass. For clinical measurements, substance

concentration of many plasma electrolytes in the US is presently

expressed in milliequivalents per litre. Conversion of these values to

millimoles per litre will alter the numerical value only if the

valency of the ion is greater than one.

For biological compounds, the concentration is expressed in moles per

litre, for example, triglycerides expressed as moles of glycerol.

Measurement of a plasma electrolyte such as sodium ion will convert

from milliequivalents per litre to millimoles per litre without a

change of the numerical value. However when the familiar plasma

glucose measurement in mg/ 100 ml is replaced by mmol/L, the new

reference interval for plasma glucose concentration in fasting adults

is 4.0-6.0 mmol/L.

The international System of Units (SI) has not yet been accepted by

American physicians because of reluctance to convert to a new system

and the corresponding need for relearning.

For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the conversion is to

multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

Winona

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> > I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

___________________

> The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just like

> the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one way to

> say a number.

>

>

>

___________________________

The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada and

almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard International)

In SI the unit of " amount of substance " is the MOLE and this unit is

used rather than mass. For clinical measurements, substance

concentration of many plasma electrolytes in the US is presently

expressed in milliequivalents per litre. Conversion of these values to

millimoles per litre will alter the numerical value only if the

valency of the ion is greater than one.

For biological compounds, the concentration is expressed in moles per

litre, for example, triglycerides expressed as moles of glycerol.

Measurement of a plasma electrolyte such as sodium ion will convert

from milliequivalents per litre to millimoles per litre without a

change of the numerical value. However when the familiar plasma

glucose measurement in mg/ 100 ml is replaced by mmol/L, the new

reference interval for plasma glucose concentration in fasting adults

is 4.0-6.0 mmol/L.

The international System of Units (SI) has not yet been accepted by

American physicians because of reluctance to convert to a new system

and the corresponding need for relearning.

For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the conversion is to

multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

Winona

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> Do you feel hyper?

Good question, Betty :)

The answer is I'm not sure. I have a few symptoms that could go

either way (BP is out of control, low then high) I've had some eye

issues that could be cold related or thyroid, and I'm losing hair

again, but again - hyper or hypot.

My pulse is still normal though, and no palpitations and I'm

sleeping OK (not great but that's cause I'm sick I think).

So it's a little grey.

Nat

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> Do you feel hyper?

Good question, Betty :)

The answer is I'm not sure. I have a few symptoms that could go

either way (BP is out of control, low then high) I've had some eye

issues that could be cold related or thyroid, and I'm losing hair

again, but again - hyper or hypot.

My pulse is still normal though, and no palpitations and I'm

sleeping OK (not great but that's cause I'm sick I think).

So it's a little grey.

Nat

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Thats interesting. Do you have a site I can bookmark for the

conversion. Usuallymost US labs use the pmol for FT3 but the mcg,

ug, for TT4 TT3 and FT4. I just did some conversions the other day

and the site I used said aboutt 100 pmol per mcg, uh oh....think my

numbers may be off a little now.

>

> > > I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

> ___________________

>

> > The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just

like

> > the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one way

to

> > say a number.

> >

> >

> >

> ___________________________

>

> The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada and

> almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard

International)

>

> In SI the unit of " amount of substance " is the MOLE and this unit is

> used rather than mass. For clinical measurements, substance

> concentration of many plasma electrolytes in the US is presently

> expressed in milliequivalents per litre. Conversion of these values

to

> millimoles per litre will alter the numerical value only if the

> valency of the ion is greater than one.

>

> For biological compounds, the concentration is expressed in moles

per

> litre, for example, triglycerides expressed as moles of glycerol.

>

> Measurement of a plasma electrolyte such as sodium ion will convert

> from milliequivalents per litre to millimoles per litre without a

> change of the numerical value. However when the familiar plasma

> glucose measurement in mg/ 100 ml is replaced by mmol/L, the new

> reference interval for plasma glucose concentration in fasting

adults

> is 4.0-6.0 mmol/L.

>

> The international System of Units (SI) has not yet been accepted by

> American physicians because of reluctance to convert to a new system

> and the corresponding need for relearning.

>

> For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the conversion is to

> multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

>

> Winona

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Thats interesting. Do you have a site I can bookmark for the

conversion. Usuallymost US labs use the pmol for FT3 but the mcg,

ug, for TT4 TT3 and FT4. I just did some conversions the other day

and the site I used said aboutt 100 pmol per mcg, uh oh....think my

numbers may be off a little now.

>

> > > I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

> ___________________

>

> > The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just

like

> > the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one way

to

> > say a number.

> >

> >

> >

> ___________________________

>

> The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada and

> almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard

International)

>

> In SI the unit of " amount of substance " is the MOLE and this unit is

> used rather than mass. For clinical measurements, substance

> concentration of many plasma electrolytes in the US is presently

> expressed in milliequivalents per litre. Conversion of these values

to

> millimoles per litre will alter the numerical value only if the

> valency of the ion is greater than one.

>

> For biological compounds, the concentration is expressed in moles

per

> litre, for example, triglycerides expressed as moles of glycerol.

>

> Measurement of a plasma electrolyte such as sodium ion will convert

> from milliequivalents per litre to millimoles per litre without a

> change of the numerical value. However when the familiar plasma

> glucose measurement in mg/ 100 ml is replaced by mmol/L, the new

> reference interval for plasma glucose concentration in fasting

adults

> is 4.0-6.0 mmol/L.

>

> The international System of Units (SI) has not yet been accepted by

> American physicians because of reluctance to convert to a new system

> and the corresponding need for relearning.

>

> For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the conversion is to

> multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

>

> Winona

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Thats interesting. Do you have a site I can bookmark for the

conversion. Usuallymost US labs use the pmol for FT3 but the mcg,

ug, for TT4 TT3 and FT4. I just did some conversions the other day

and the site I used said aboutt 100 pmol per mcg, uh oh....think my

numbers may be off a little now.

>

> > > I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement (metric)

> ___________________

>

> > The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just

like

> > the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one way

to

> > say a number.

> >

> >

> >

> ___________________________

>

> The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada and

> almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard

International)

>

> In SI the unit of " amount of substance " is the MOLE and this unit is

> used rather than mass. For clinical measurements, substance

> concentration of many plasma electrolytes in the US is presently

> expressed in milliequivalents per litre. Conversion of these values

to

> millimoles per litre will alter the numerical value only if the

> valency of the ion is greater than one.

>

> For biological compounds, the concentration is expressed in moles

per

> litre, for example, triglycerides expressed as moles of glycerol.

>

> Measurement of a plasma electrolyte such as sodium ion will convert

> from milliequivalents per litre to millimoles per litre without a

> change of the numerical value. However when the familiar plasma

> glucose measurement in mg/ 100 ml is replaced by mmol/L, the new

> reference interval for plasma glucose concentration in fasting

adults

> is 4.0-6.0 mmol/L.

>

> The international System of Units (SI) has not yet been accepted by

> American physicians because of reluctance to convert to a new system

> and the corresponding need for relearning.

>

> For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the conversion is to

> multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

>

> Winona

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okie dokie. I couldn't figure out where those numbers or ranges were coming

from. :-) Thanks.

SandyE~Houston

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> Hmmmmm You will be able to tell better when you get well(hopefully

soon huh)? When I started getting a little hyper on Armour, my eyes

looked like they saw a ghost. You know the staring look. No one else

noticed it but I looked in the mirror and it looked like I had

graves again. Hope you get well soon.

>

> Betty

>

Thanks, Betty :) You can bet I'll keep an " eye " on things! I do

hope this blasted cold is over with soon, I'm feeling really run

down today after only 4hours sleep :(

Nat

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> Hmmmmm You will be able to tell better when you get well(hopefully

soon huh)? When I started getting a little hyper on Armour, my eyes

looked like they saw a ghost. You know the staring look. No one else

noticed it but I looked in the mirror and it looked like I had

graves again. Hope you get well soon.

>

> Betty

>

Thanks, Betty :) You can bet I'll keep an " eye " on things! I do

hope this blasted cold is over with soon, I'm feeling really run

down today after only 4hours sleep :(

Nat

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> Hmmmmm You will be able to tell better when you get well(hopefully

soon huh)? When I started getting a little hyper on Armour, my eyes

looked like they saw a ghost. You know the staring look. No one else

noticed it but I looked in the mirror and it looked like I had

graves again. Hope you get well soon.

>

> Betty

>

Thanks, Betty :) You can bet I'll keep an " eye " on things! I do

hope this blasted cold is over with soon, I'm feeling really run

down today after only 4hours sleep :(

Nat

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> >

> > > > I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement

(metric)

> > ___________________

> >

> > > The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just

> like

> > > the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one

way

> to

> > > say a number.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ___________________________

> >

> > The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada

and

> > almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard

> International)

> >

> > In SI the unit of " amount of substance " is the MOLE and this

unit is

> > used rather than mass. For clinical measurements, substance

> > concentration of many plasma electrolytes in the US is presently

> > expressed in milliequivalents per litre. Conversion of these

values

> to

> > millimoles per litre will alter the numerical value only if the

> > valency of the ion is greater than one.

> >

> > For biological compounds, the concentration is expressed in

moles

> per

> > litre, for example, triglycerides expressed as moles of

glycerol.

> >

> > Measurement of a plasma electrolyte such as sodium ion will

convert

> > from milliequivalents per litre to millimoles per litre without a

> > change of the numerical value. However when the familiar plasma

> > glucose measurement in mg/ 100 ml is replaced by mmol/L, the new

> > reference interval for plasma glucose concentration in fasting

> adults

> > is 4.0-6.0 mmol/L.

> >

> > The international System of Units (SI) has not yet been accepted

by

> > American physicians because of reluctance to convert to a new

system

> > and the corresponding need for relearning.

> >

> > For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the conversion is to

> > multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

> >

> > Winona

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> >

> > > > I'm in Canada - we have different units of measurement

(metric)

> > ___________________

> >

> > > The US medical system uses metric for its lab tests also, just

> like

> > > the metric system (although uncommon) there is more than one

way

> to

> > > say a number.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ___________________________

> >

> > The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada

and

> > almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard

> International)

> >

> > In SI the unit of " amount of substance " is the MOLE and this

unit is

> > used rather than mass. For clinical measurements, substance

> > concentration of many plasma electrolytes in the US is presently

> > expressed in milliequivalents per litre. Conversion of these

values

> to

> > millimoles per litre will alter the numerical value only if the

> > valency of the ion is greater than one.

> >

> > For biological compounds, the concentration is expressed in

moles

> per

> > litre, for example, triglycerides expressed as moles of

glycerol.

> >

> > Measurement of a plasma electrolyte such as sodium ion will

convert

> > from milliequivalents per litre to millimoles per litre without a

> > change of the numerical value. However when the familiar plasma

> > glucose measurement in mg/ 100 ml is replaced by mmol/L, the new

> > reference interval for plasma glucose concentration in fasting

> adults

> > is 4.0-6.0 mmol/L.

> >

> > The international System of Units (SI) has not yet been accepted

by

> > American physicians because of reluctance to convert to a new

system

> > and the corresponding need for relearning.

> >

> > For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the conversion is to

> > multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

> >

> > Winona

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You might try either of theses 2 sites for reference:

http://www.clr-online.com/reference/tableri.asp

or

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/htm/bc/reftbl08.htm

Winona

________________________________

> Thats interesting. Do you have a site I can bookmark for the

> conversion. Usuallymost US labs use the pmol for FT3 but the mcg,

> ug, for TT4 TT3 and FT4. I just did some conversions the other day

> and the site I used said aboutt 100 pmol per mcg, uh oh....think my

> numbers may be off a little now.

>

>

> > ___________________________

> >

> > The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada and

> > almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard

> International) . . . For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the

conversion is to multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

> > Winona

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You might try either of theses 2 sites for reference:

http://www.clr-online.com/reference/tableri.asp

or

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/htm/bc/reftbl08.htm

Winona

________________________________

> Thats interesting. Do you have a site I can bookmark for the

> conversion. Usuallymost US labs use the pmol for FT3 but the mcg,

> ug, for TT4 TT3 and FT4. I just did some conversions the other day

> and the site I used said aboutt 100 pmol per mcg, uh oh....think my

> numbers may be off a little now.

>

>

> > ___________________________

> >

> > The difference between the two reporting units are that Canada and

> > almost all other countries (not US) use the SI (Standard

> International) . . . For free thyroxine range 0.9 - 2.3 ng/dL, the

conversion is to multiply by 13 and the range is 12 - 30 pmol/L

> > Winona

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>

> ,

>

> You might try either of theses 2 sites for reference:

>

> http://www.clr-online.com/reference/tableri.asp

>

> or

>

> http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/htm/bc/reftbl08.htm

>

>

> Winona

>

> ________________________________

Thanks Winona. I had some conversion and biochemistry sites I used

to be able to pull up pretty quick with a search....some how I goy a

spyware on my search link and I can not get any searches to go

through. My searches just take me from search engine to search

engine???????? Really ticks me off. Thanks for the links..I am

searching through a couple bio-chemistry books to see if I can get

something to explain it a little better.

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>

> ,

>

> You might try either of theses 2 sites for reference:

>

> http://www.clr-online.com/reference/tableri.asp

>

> or

>

> http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/htm/bc/reftbl08.htm

>

>

> Winona

>

> ________________________________

Thanks Winona. I had some conversion and biochemistry sites I used

to be able to pull up pretty quick with a search....some how I goy a

spyware on my search link and I can not get any searches to go

through. My searches just take me from search engine to search

engine???????? Really ticks me off. Thanks for the links..I am

searching through a couple bio-chemistry books to see if I can get

something to explain it a little better.

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>

> ,

>

> You might try either of theses 2 sites for reference:

>

> http://www.clr-online.com/reference/tableri.asp

>

> or

>

> http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/htm/bc/reftbl08.htm

>

>

> Winona

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Thanks Winona. I had some conversion and biochemistry sites I used

to be able to pull up pretty quick with a search....some how I goy a

spyware on my search link and I can not get any searches to go

through. My searches just take me from search engine to search

engine???????? Really ticks me off. Thanks for the links..I am

searching through a couple bio-chemistry books to see if I can get

something to explain it a little better.

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