Optimal day for testing female hormones

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 11:14:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kguynn@... writes:

> I'm trying to talk my husband into getting " fixed " , so I can get off the

> pill. Not having much luck right now. Guys any help or advise on that

> part?

>

>

my husband had a vascectomy before we got married. he was pitiful the day of

it..slightly pitiful the next day and sore for a few days. but that's it.

over and done with. i couldn't take the pill then because i smoked...and he

didn't want me to have a tubal ligation which was much more involved than a

vascectomy.

what are your husband's objections to a vascectomy?

cindi

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 11:14:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kguynn@... writes:

> I'm trying to talk my husband into getting " fixed " , so I can get off the

> pill. Not having much luck right now. Guys any help or advise on that

> part?

>

>

my husband had a vascectomy before we got married. he was pitiful the day of

it..slightly pitiful the next day and sore for a few days. but that's it.

over and done with. i couldn't take the pill then because i smoked...and he

didn't want me to have a tubal ligation which was much more involved than a

vascectomy.

what are your husband's objections to a vascectomy?

cindi

[Guest guest]

If you are still menstruating, serum hormone tests should be measured

on day 2 AND day 20 of your cycle. This way you get to see what they

are at the time they should be the lowest (day 2) and when they're

high (day 20).

If you're interested in your peak levels, then you need to test

immediately before ovulation, which is hard to detect until it's

already happened.

The good news is that you're most likely taking BBTs and have several

months worth of data to look at so you can determine an ovulation

estimate.

Things that should be measured in a female hormonal panel:

Estradiol

Progesterone

Testosterone

FSH

LH

Prolactin

Additionally you may want to include:

8 AM Free cortisol

DHEA and DHEA-S

[Guest guest]

>>What if you are on the pill? Is it worth the time to test these things? <<

YES!!! All the hormones work in tandem. If your Estrogen is high, you will have

to take alot more thyroid to feel normal. If your Progesterone is low you will

be Estrogen Dominant now matter how much Estrogen you are putting out. If your

DHEA drops too law it can signify adrenal fatigue. And all the symptoms of

MENOPAUSE are so very close to hypo symptoms, how ya gonna tell? Yes if you can

afford it at all DO get your female hormones tested as well.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and

cackling, telling me, " You're next. " They stopped after I started doing the

same thing to them at funerals

[Guest guest]

>>What if you are on the pill? Is it worth the time to test these things? <<

YES!!! All the hormones work in tandem. If your Estrogen is high, you will have

to take alot more thyroid to feel normal. If your Progesterone is low you will

be Estrogen Dominant now matter how much Estrogen you are putting out. If your

DHEA drops too law it can signify adrenal fatigue. And all the symptoms of

MENOPAUSE are so very close to hypo symptoms, how ya gonna tell? Yes if you can

afford it at all DO get your female hormones tested as well.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and

cackling, telling me, " You're next. " They stopped after I started doing the

same thing to them at funerals

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Tell him if he wants no more kids, then it's his duty to get fixed?

lol. It's much easier on men, so he wouldn't have to have near as

much done as you would, nor have near the complications.

Unfortunately everybody I know whos' gone with a tubal ligation has

ended up having a hysterectomy later, so I want no part of that.

SandyE~Houston

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:49:52 -0600

Kate Guynn kguynn@...> wrote:

> What if you are on the pill? Is it worth the time to test these

>things?

> I'm trying to talk my husband into getting " fixed " , so I can get off

>the

> pill. Not having much luck right now. Guys any help or advise on

>that part?

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks that's really helpful, my GP isn't allowed to do DHEA (tried before)

and I always ask for a cortisol test, will remember the prolactin as hadn't

thought of that and am going to try and push for aldesterone as well. The

nurse is pretty good and will test for lots of things if allowed by the

computer and asked so I may try for insulin receptor as well

BBT's ? having a dim day

Dawn

> If you are still menstruating, serum hormone tests should be measured

> on day 2 AND day 20 of your cycle. This way you get to see what they

> are at the time they should be the lowest (day 2) and when they're

> high (day 20).

>

> If you're interested in your peak levels, then you need to test

> immediately before ovulation, which is hard to detect until it's

> already happened.

> The good news is that you're most likely taking BBTs and have several

> months worth of data to look at so you can determine an ovulation

> estimate.

>

> Things that should be measured in a female hormonal panel:

> Estradiol

> Progesterone

> Testosterone

> FSH

> LH

> Prolactin

>

> Additionally you may want to include:

> 8 AM Free cortisol

> DHEA and DHEA-S

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>my GP isn't allowed to do DHEA (tried <<

For many of the female hormones, and DHEA, ZRT Lab's saliva test is available to

anyone not in CA or I think NY, course that's if you are in the USA, LOL.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/15/2005 6:14:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kguynn@... writes:

>

>

> I think most men tend to be that way, sorry guys just an observation....

>

well i'm feeling pretty proud of my husband. i went for a consultation on

tubal ligation before we married...told him about it...he said that i wasn't

going thru that...and volunteered to get the vascectomy. way to go, hubby!

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/15/2005 6:14:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kguynn@... writes:

>

>

> I think most men tend to be that way, sorry guys just an observation....

>

well i'm feeling pretty proud of my husband. i went for a consultation on

tubal ligation before we married...told him about it...he said that i wasn't

going thru that...and volunteered to get the vascectomy. way to go, hubby!

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/15/2005 6:14:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kguynn@... writes:

>

>

> I think most men tend to be that way, sorry guys just an observation....

>

well i'm feeling pretty proud of my husband. i went for a consultation on

tubal ligation before we married...told him about it...he said that i wasn't

going thru that...and volunteered to get the vascectomy. way to go, hubby!

cindi

[Guest guest]

Well, we have one son who is six. I was on the pill before we had him,

after I tried the shot (never again) and then went back on the pill. With

me already having sex drive issues, I do not want to pull an ultimatum on

him. I will figure out a kind way to get him to do it. It just might take

me another month or two to convince him. I will tell him that if I can get

my hormones in line it will help with my sex drive......

Kate G

At 04:43 PM 3/15/2005, you wrote:

>I wasn't very nice about...after baby #3, I said, you

>get fixed or you get nothing...it worked.

>

>Kerry

>

>--- Kate Guynn kguynn@...> wrote:

>

> > I'm trying to talk my husband into getting " fixed " ,

> > so I can get off the

> > pill. Not having much luck right now. Guys any

> > help or advise on that part?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Kate G

[Guest guest]

Well, we have one son who is six. I was on the pill before we had him,

after I tried the shot (never again) and then went back on the pill. With

me already having sex drive issues, I do not want to pull an ultimatum on

him. I will figure out a kind way to get him to do it. It just might take

me another month or two to convince him. I will tell him that if I can get

my hormones in line it will help with my sex drive......

Kate G

At 04:43 PM 3/15/2005, you wrote:

>I wasn't very nice about...after baby #3, I said, you

>get fixed or you get nothing...it worked.

>

>Kerry

>

>--- Kate Guynn kguynn@...> wrote:

>

> > I'm trying to talk my husband into getting " fixed " ,

> > so I can get off the

> > pill. Not having much luck right now. Guys any

> > help or advise on that part?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Kate G

[Guest guest]

Well, we have one son who is six. I was on the pill before we had him,

after I tried the shot (never again) and then went back on the pill. With

me already having sex drive issues, I do not want to pull an ultimatum on

him. I will figure out a kind way to get him to do it. It just might take

me another month or two to convince him. I will tell him that if I can get

my hormones in line it will help with my sex drive......

Kate G

At 04:43 PM 3/15/2005, you wrote:

>I wasn't very nice about...after baby #3, I said, you

>get fixed or you get nothing...it worked.

>

>Kerry

>

>--- Kate Guynn kguynn@...> wrote:

>

> > I'm trying to talk my husband into getting " fixed " ,

> > so I can get off the

> > pill. Not having much luck right now. Guys any

> > help or advise on that part?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Kate G

[Guest guest]

I think most men tend to be that way, sorry guys just an observation....

Kate G

At 04:46 PM 3/15/2005, you wrote:

>My ex husband was such a chicken, he ended up having

>his " V " done at the hospital, put out and everything.

>He hated pain.

>

>Kerry

[Guest guest]

I think most men tend to be that way, sorry guys just an observation....

Kate G

At 04:46 PM 3/15/2005, you wrote:

>My ex husband was such a chicken, he ended up having

>his " V " done at the hospital, put out and everything.

>He hated pain.

>

>Kerry

[Guest guest]

I think most men tend to be that way, sorry guys just an observation....

Kate G

At 04:46 PM 3/15/2005, you wrote:

>My ex husband was such a chicken, he ended up having

>his " V " done at the hospital, put out and everything.

>He hated pain.

>

>Kerry

[Guest guest]

I had a tubal nearly 30 yrs ago but no hysterectomy.

Kate

Re: Re: Optimal day for testing female

hormones

Sandy, How long after the tubal ligation do they have a hysterectomy? Sue ---

Unfortunately everybody I

know whos' gone with a tubal ligation has ended up having a hysterectomy later,

so I want no part of that.SandyE~Houston

[Guest guest]

I had a tubal nearly 30 yrs ago but no hysterectomy.

Kate

Re: Re: Optimal day for testing female

hormones

Sandy, How long after the tubal ligation do they have a hysterectomy? Sue ---

Unfortunately everybody I

know whos' gone with a tubal ligation has ended up having a hysterectomy later,

so I want no part of that.SandyE~Houston

[Guest guest]

I had a tubal nearly 30 yrs ago but no hysterectomy.

Kate

Re: Re: Optimal day for testing female

hormones

Sandy, How long after the tubal ligation do they have a hysterectomy? Sue ---

Unfortunately everybody I

know whos' gone with a tubal ligation has ended up having a hysterectomy later,

so I want no part of that.SandyE~Houston

[Guest guest]

Cindi, You tell your husband that I said, " HE IS THE MAN!! " Sheila

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In a message dated 3/15/2005 11:14:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kguynn@... writes:

> I'm trying to talk my husband into getting " fixed " , so I can get off the

> pill

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[Guest guest]

I had a tubal done my goodness over 20 years ago now. I still have all my

parts, although the Iridologist also said that many tubals cause problems

later. I breezed through menopause and to my knowledge I am not now having

any problems in that area.

What are their symptoms? Heavy menstrual flow? Cramps? Again as I said

in my message of the other night after doing the things I mentioned there,

those problems disappeared. LOL and I remembered another symptom that I

had that fully disappeared . . . sinus trouble. Most of these things were

related to a build up of crap in my system. When I did the necessary

cleanses the related problems were eliminated.

Sheila

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Not sure on the length, but both my cousin's are the last person's

I've known who had a tubal.....one's daughter just turned 12, & the

other's son turned 12 last year when her's was done. They are strongly

suggesting a hysterectomy for one now, but she's had problems for at p

Sheila Bliesath

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[Guest guest]

I had a tubal done my goodness over 20 years ago now. I still have all my

parts, although the Iridologist also said that many tubals cause problems

later. I breezed through menopause and to my knowledge I am not now having

any problems in that area.

What are their symptoms? Heavy menstrual flow? Cramps? Again as I said

in my message of the other night after doing the things I mentioned there,

those problems disappeared. LOL and I remembered another symptom that I

had that fully disappeared . . . sinus trouble. Most of these things were

related to a build up of crap in my system. When I did the necessary

cleanses the related problems were eliminated.

Sheila

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Not sure on the length, but both my cousin's are the last person's

I've known who had a tubal.....one's daughter just turned 12, & the

other's son turned 12 last year when her's was done. They are strongly

suggesting a hysterectomy for one now, but she's had problems for at p

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

Phone:

For more information on travel or becoming an agent

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[Guest guest]

I had a tubal done my goodness over 20 years ago now. I still have all my

parts, although the Iridologist also said that many tubals cause problems

later. I breezed through menopause and to my knowledge I am not now having

any problems in that area.

What are their symptoms? Heavy menstrual flow? Cramps? Again as I said

in my message of the other night after doing the things I mentioned there,

those problems disappeared. LOL and I remembered another symptom that I

had that fully disappeared . . . sinus trouble. Most of these things were

related to a build up of crap in my system. When I did the necessary

cleanses the related problems were eliminated.

Sheila

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Not sure on the length, but both my cousin's are the last person's

I've known who had a tubal.....one's daughter just turned 12, & the

other's son turned 12 last year when her's was done. They are strongly

suggesting a hysterectomy for one now, but she's had problems for at p

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

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LOL do the cleanses if you can and try Damiana!!! Works pretty darn good!

Sheila

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With

me already having sex drive issues, I do not want to pull an ultimatum on

him. I will figure out a kind way to get him to do it. It just might take

me another month or two to convince him. I will tell him that if I can get

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

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